Bojangles 602 Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Hard to argue against them being strong favourites without him anyway. This is true. And it could potentially make them very strong again next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,249 Posted July 7, 2023 Whilst fully within the rules (for what they are worth) keeping Killeen in the 1-7 despite the numerous changes isn't really in the spirit of NL racing....although most other clubs would do the same. Not convinced the latest move is going to strengthen the side but its probably a less risky option than sticking with RR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,661 Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said: Whilst fully within the rules (for what they are worth) keeping Killeen in the 1-7 despite the numerous changes isn't really in the spirit of NL racing....although most other clubs would do the same. Not convinced the latest move is going to strengthen the side but its probably a less risky option than sticking with RR. Oxford obtain no advantage given he's on 3.00 average. Sam Woods/James Laker will score the same points whether they are a guest or named no 7.. However Signing, and then operating rider replacement for Kelsey Dugard after just one and a half meetings is another discussion. But by replacing RR for Dugard (extra rides for Kinsley,Scott and Clouting) with Jason Garrad they have weakened their team. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bojangles 602 Posted July 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, arnieg said: Oxford obtain no advantage given he's on 3.00 average. Sam Woods/James Laker will score the same points whether they are a guest or named no 7.. However Signing, and then operating rider replacement for Kelsey Dugard after just one and a half meetings is another discussion. But by replacing RR for Dugard (extra rides for Kinsley,Scott and Clouting) with Jason Garrad they have weakened their team. They've never replaced RR with Jason Garrad have they? Garrad was used as a replacement for Killeen against Kent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,661 Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bojangles said: They've never replaced RR with Jason Garrad have they? Garrad was used as a replacement for Killeen against Kent. Yes they have, look at the latest issue of the Greensheets. (Oddly I could see no announcement about this on Oxford's social media so I can see how you missed it I did too until I picked up this thread) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bojangles 602 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, arnieg said: Yes they have, look at the latest issue of the Greensheets. (Oddly I could see no announcement about this on Oxford's social media so I can see how you missed it I did too until I picked up this thread) Really? Crikey. I didn't realise that. In that case, totally agree, it does make them weaker. And you're right, I haven't seen an announcement either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BackInTheDHSS 123 Posted July 7, 2023 42 minutes ago, arnieg said: Yes they have, look at the latest issue of the Greensheets. (Oddly I could see no announcement about this on Oxford's social media so I can see how you missed it I did too until I picked up this thread) That's a strange move. Why not replace Killeen with Garrad, and keep the R/R for Dugard? Makes them much stronger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,249 Posted July 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, BackInTheDHSS said: That's a strange move. Why not replace Killeen with Garrad, and keep the R/R for Dugard? Makes them much stronger. Excellent point. Clouting and Garrad at reserve is far stronger than Garrad and unattached guest. Kinsley and Scott alone would have likely got 4-6 from RR then everything else is a bonus. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islander15 1,065 Posted July 7, 2023 Unless Garrad has been signed as a 28 day injury replacement for Dugard? Whilst they don’t want to remove Killeen from their team incase he’s fit for the play-off final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hilly 175 Posted July 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Islander15 said: Unless Garrad has been signed as a 28 day injury replacement for Dugard? Whilst they don’t want to remove Killeen from their team incase he’s fit for the play-off final. Only a home match on 26th coming up, would seem a bit pointless. Does seem a strange move thou, a definite backward step. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,090 Posted July 7, 2023 12 hours ago, arnieg said: Oxford obtain no advantage given he's on 3.00 average. Sam Woods/James Laker will score the same points whether they are a guest or named no 7.. However Signing, and then operating rider replacement for Kelsey Dugard after just one and a half meetings is another discussion. But by replacing RR for Dugard (extra rides for Kinsley,Scott and Clouting) with Jason Garrad they have weakened their team. Cannot understand why they have done that, be interesting to see the reasoning behind that. Certainly makes them a lot weaker for me, especially moving Clouting from the reserve berth too! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anzum 250 Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) On 7/8/2023 at 12:25 AM, szkocjasid said: Cannot understand why they have done that, be interesting to see the reasoning behind that. Certainly makes them a lot weaker for me, especially moving Clouting from the reserve berth too! In last night’s programme, Schroeck says “ Kelsey Dugard is really struggling with a ligament injury and he shouldn’t ride again this season. He only did a couple of meetings for us, and we didn’t want to get into an Eddie Kennett type situation where we were taking advantage of rider replacement for a rider who has hardly ridden for us, especially in the National League, which is all about rider development. He then goes on to say why Garrad. He also mentions they are monitoring the Killeen situation but are not writing off his season quite yet. Edited July 13, 2023 by Anzum Correcting auto correct! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,090 Posted July 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Anzum said: In last night’s programme, Schroeck says “ Kelsey Dugard is really struggling with a ligament injury and he shouldn’t ride again this season. He only did a couple of meetings for us, and we didn’t want to get into an Eddie Kennett type situation where we were taking advantage of rider replacement for a rider who has hardly ridden for us, especially in the National League, which is all about rider development. He then goes on to say why Garrad. He also mentions they are monitoring the Killeen situation but are not writing off his season quite yet. Credit to Oxford for that attitude, just feel it could cost them the league title! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonds85 702 Posted July 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Anzum said: In last night’s programme, Schroeck says “ Kelsey Dugard is really struggling with a ligament injury and he shouldn’t ride again this season. He only did a couple of meetings for us, and we didn’t want to get into an Eddie Kennett type situation where we were taking advantage of rider replacement for a rider who has hardly ridden for us, especially in the National League, which is all about rider development. He then goes on to say why Garrad. He also mentions they are monitoring the Killeen situation but are not writing off his season quite yet. Why Garrad then? Don't get me wrong he seems like a great option on a 3.00 average and I am glad he's got a team place, just curious as to what Shroeck's take on him is? Think Garrad at reserve could do a decent enough job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anzum 250 Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Why Garrad then? Don't get me wrong he seems like a great option on a 3.00 average and I am glad he's got a team place, just curious as to what Shroeck's take on him is? Think Garrad at reserve could do a decent enough job “ In that league (NL),if there’s a decent rider to bring in, you should, s we’ve signed Jason Garrad, who won heat 2 for us at Kent. Jason has been on our radar for a while, and he will add some experience to the reserve berths.” Edited July 14, 2023 by Anzum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites