Roger Jacobs 554 Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Lambert has an * next to his average. The rules on the greensheets are as follows assessed MA due to one of following New Foreign Rider Converted MA New Rider Re-assessed MAEst MA older than prev 2 seasons So using thier rules Lambert has a. "assessed MA" as it's an established MA older than 2 seasons! I was also informed, regarding the *: "Next season that box will be changed as it is obviously misleading ..." I haven't checked, but apparently riders with a * might well have taken a guest booking this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,217 Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Maybe make them choose guests from the riders they've sacked off this year, there's plenty to choose from. At least they've been part of getting them this far. Love to have jack holder next thursday 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,217 Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Baldyman said: Isn't it amazing not one Sheffield fan questioning Lamberts inclusion,,,is it cos this year it benefits you? i have not got a clue how we have got Lambert, the same way as i still don't have a clue how Belle Vue got him last year, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlieboy 416 Posted September 22, 2023 Looks like there’s going to be a lot of supporters /fans / keyboard warriors who never go having some sleepless nights this weekend. Stop taking the sport so seriously. Guest riders have been in use for donkeys years and the sport can’t survive without them. FACT. We can’t run squads. Not enough riders and too expensive.Are Sheffield expected to use 2 juniors to make up the team ? That will definitely help Wolves get a healthy crowd. Not. Just accept what we’re been fed. Pay to watch or don’t go. Simple. Enjoy your weekend everyone 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
E I Addio 15,856 Posted September 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Third Man said: i have not got a clue how we have got Lambert, the same way as i still don't have a clue how Belle Vue got him last year, Those running the sport haven’t got a clue either. It’s one thing to get a guest, such as bomber for example who is a bona fide supporter of the league , but something quite different to bring in a carpet bagger who is just making up his money as the Polish season winds its way to an end. No wonder clubs are struggling to get fans through the gates. It’s a pity they don’t have the ability to rule “ Not in the best interests of Speedway “ to give the league and play- offs some sort of meaning. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,199 Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) For what it’s worth……. From 2023 rule book “010.2.1 A Premiership Assessed League rider will establish an MA after completing 3 home and 3 away qualifying fixtures”. If Robert was deemed to have and established average he would have had a new average calculated on a rolling basis. Due to him being assessed he had to wait for 3 home & 3 away. “010.2.3 AmendedMA’s With the approval of the BSP LTD GC or Directors for: - a) riders who have been absent from British Speedway racing for more than 3 seasons (The MA may be increased or decreased)” Robert’s average was reassessed from that declared last year. 7.61 up to 7.81. “012.4.2 Guest Rider (G) c) the guest must be in a current team declaration and have an established MA”. Robert doesn’t have an established MA as his 2022 figure has been reassessed and he has already been treated as an assessed rider with him having to wait for 3 home & 3 away to get an established average. 2023 Premiership League TEAM DECLARATIONS and GREEN SHEETS Issue 32 states that Robert’s previously established average is no longer applicable due to being older than the previous 2 seasons and it is therefore assessed and cannot change until he has completed 3 home & 3 away meetings. Edited September 22, 2023 by ouch 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call me wolfie 677 Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, mikebv said: Wolves fans will though... But to be fair, they seem to moan about lots of things all the time.. To be fair there’s lots to moan about recently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,357 Posted September 22, 2023 "Turning into a farce"? I think that particular horse bolted a long, long time ago.... It wouldn't be UK Speedway without some make it up as you go along stuff though would it...? Imagine how boring it would be if they had clear, unambiguous rules and regs, that were not subjective and open to challenge and interpretation? It gives us all something to laugh at, at least, doesnt it... Last night we had the 8 day guest rule/NDL rider exempt debate, and next week no doubt there will be another one that gives us a giggle... Best Wishes to Robert in his quest for another winners medal... Could he be in a position to make it a hat trick next year riding for *(insert name here as applicable)... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,277 Posted September 22, 2023 If Sheffield can have Kemp as a guest RS, surely Ipswich could've had Anders Rowe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,357 Posted September 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: If Sheffield can have Kemp as a guest RS, surely Ipswich could've had Anders Rowe? Or Bartek Zmarzlik? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,710 Posted September 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: If Sheffield can have Kemp as a guest RS, surely Ipswich could've had Anders Rowe? He is guesting at No6 and not as a RS 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,277 Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: He is guesting at No6 and not as a RS Maybe not now as he's crashed at Scunthorpe (Rowe that is). Edited September 22, 2023 by SPEEDY69 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,307 Posted September 22, 2023 3 hours ago, The Third Man said: Love to have jack holder next thursday Given that Tai's average would be enhanced by 5% at home, couldn't you have Jack as a guest? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulf 1,513 Posted September 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Charlieboy said: Looks like there’s going to be a lot of supporters /fans / keyboard warriors who never go having some sleepless nights this weekend. Stop taking the sport so seriously. Guest riders have been in use for donkeys years and the sport can’t survive without them. FACT. We can’t run squads. Not enough riders and too expensive.Are Sheffield expected to use 2 juniors to make up the team ? That will definitely help Wolves get a healthy crowd. Not. Just accept what we’re been fed. Pay to watch or don’t go. Simple. Enjoy your weekend everyone I would venture to suggest that if Sheffield included 2 juniors the crowd would be very large in anticipation of a win. And even if it wasn't it definitely would be for the final ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cowboy cookie returns? 750 Posted September 23, 2023 10 hours ago, False dawn said: Given that Tai's average would be enhanced by 5% at home, couldn't you have Jack as a guest? If Tai rides for Wrocław on Sunday but then doesn’t ride on Monday he must get a 28 day ban for withholding his services. The question is though could Tai guest for himself on Thursday? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites