W9 Lion 222 Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I find it interesting there are rules to stop riders messing around clubs, but bit rules to stop clubs messing around the riders! So what's a 28 days ban for witholding services if its not a rule to stop riders messing clubs around? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 558 Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I find it interesting there are rules to stop riders messing around clubs, but bit rules to stop clubs messing around the riders! There's quite a bit of that. The most noticeable one being a rider who withholds his services because of not being paid can be suspended from riding anywhere in the UK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,038 Posted December 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, W9 Lion said: So what's a 28 days ban for witholding services if its not a rule to stop riders messing clubs around? That's what I said "there are rules to stop riders messing around clubs" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted December 4, 2023 Riders still have to sign to say they have been paid for the previous meeting before they ride in the next one. Who polices that? And what are the teeth? In fact I can't remember any club ever being sanctioned for non payment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, 1 valve said: There's quite a bit of that. The most noticeable one being a rider who withholds his services because of not being paid can be suspended from riding anywhere in the UK! But if he is not being paid then it is the club messing the rider about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teromaafan 586 Posted December 4, 2023 Anyone have any strong opinions on the new logo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted December 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, Teromaafan said: Anyone have any strong opinions on the new logo? I quite like it. But do I get a say? I'm a Bees fan. As an aside, I hope the Bees go back to the fighting Bee logo when they reopen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 valve 558 Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: But if he is not being paid then it is the club messing the rider about. That’s the point I was making. The rider has no sanction he can take if he’s not being paid. But if he does withhold his services he faces sanctions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,018 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Teromaafan said: Anyone have any strong opinions on the new logo? Think I preferred the old one, new one looks a bit 1990's, similar to Glasgow's but crapper... but they've got merch to sell I suppose. Tbh I thought the old logo of the Lion was very good indeed, wasn't so keen on the ye olde style font though from a few seasons back Edited December 4, 2023 by iainb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishersGate 522 Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Teromaafan said: Anyone have any strong opinions on the new logo? My dad hates but I actually love it. Must be a generation thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teromaafan 586 Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, iainb said: Think I preferred the old one, new one looks a bit 1990's, similar to Glasgow's but crapper... but they've got merch to sell I suppose. Tbh I thought the old logo of the Lion was very good indeed, wasn't so keen on the ye olde style font though from a few seasons back Not sure that there is much money to be made from speedway merchandise. If the club is trying to use a new logo (still to ‘cartoony’ for me) to generate money however, they really do need to get their act together on advertising their product. To date, most of the merchandise available in the track shop has not been shown on the club website. The online shop has quite frankly been piss poor and embarrassing. Hardly a priority, but this would appear to require minimal effort to make this work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted December 5, 2023 19 hours ago, iainb said: Because there's a high liklihood that he'd score a hell of a lot more around the PMA than he would at foxhole. A few duck eggs at foxhole and confidence could easily be lost and a downward spiral be gotten into. Doesn't a riders contact generally last for 1 year and then they revert to their parent club. Of course a contact will probably have get out clauses if a rider is not performing up to muster. Dan rode well at Ipswich so no reason to suggest too many duck eggs will happen, i appreciate you would want him as now you have the not so good brother who will get duck eggs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W9 Lion 222 Posted December 5, 2023 17 hours ago, szkocjasid said: That's what I said "there are rules to stop riders messing around clubs" Appologies, I misread your original post. I obviously didnt have enough coffee yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W9 Lion 222 Posted December 5, 2023 12 hours ago, FishersGate said: My dad hates but I actually love it. Must be a generation thing! The brief was for a contemporary, modern, fresh logo with a good balance between the text and image. Its looking forward to the future, rather than backwards to the past. The key was it had to appeal to a younger audiance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
40-38 308 Posted December 5, 2023 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: Dan rode well at Ipswich so no reason to suggest too many duck eggs will happen, i appreciate you would want him as now you have the not so good brother who will get duck eggs. I've said it before but I think if either Thompson is to progress they needed to move away from Leicester, and it did Dan a lot of good last year, especially with the lack of pressure. Also given the chance to learn at the exhaust of Sayfudtdinov who would turn it down? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites