Fromafar 10,363 Posted December 21, 2023 Brummies biggest problem seems to be getting fans through the Turnstiles in recent seasons. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pauldoveyspeedway 144 Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Brummies biggest problem seems to be getting fans through the Turnstiles in recent seasons. At least he's trying ....If he gets 2 good riders and people dont go what more can he do ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishersGate 522 Posted December 21, 2023 Think it's the pawlicki brothers. Spoke to a rider a few weeks ago who said they were signed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) One thing he did say that made me laugh. "It's only a 20 minute drive from Wolverhampton when the roads are clear" I'm guessing Brummies Home Matches will start at 3am with a 5am curfew Edited December 21, 2023 by HGould Punctuation 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: At least he's trying ....If he gets 2 good riders and people dont go what more can he do ... Full credit to Tolley,but you get the impression he’s flogging a dead horse in Birmingham.The fans just don’t seem to be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1stbender 18 Posted December 21, 2023 Issue is that there needs to be better promotion of the club in the modern era. Maybe the club look at getting someone in fresh who can tap into a different market, birminghams a huge city no reason why they can get 1500 on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noaksey 345 Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Full credit to Tolley,but you get the impression he’s flogging a dead horse in Birmingham.The fans just don’t seem to be there. The evidence over a very long period of time now suggests that this is the case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,028 Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Not sure why Promoters feel the need to tell us how much money they've spent? You're either taking it on, or you're not!? We need 2 riders of GP standard to compete with other teams.... Our second string riders are not as good as other teams... Look forward to the exciting news!? Not bottom of the rankings for me, don't think Brummies second strings are any worse than Belle Vue or Ipswich's imo The other 4 teams do look stronger. Edited December 22, 2023 by szkocjasid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justathought 374 Posted December 22, 2023 I think I'm correct in saying that Birmingham have had several different homes over the years. When you consider that Birmingham has a massive catchment area, you would think that gates of 1,500 is possible. Does the location of the stadium have anything to do with it, is it especially difficult to get to, is the traffic at that time of evening a nightmare ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishersGate 522 Posted December 22, 2023 Just now, justathought said: I think I'm correct in saying that Birmingham have had several different homes over the years. When you consider that Birmingham has a massive catchment area, you would think that gates of 1,500 is possible. Does the location of the stadium have anything to do with it, is it especially difficult to get to, is the traffic at that time of evening a nightmare ? I'm only a 45 minute drive away from Perry bar. What puts me off going is the fact I have to fight through traffic everytime. If I get there early I can't park it at the stadium either. Once I'm in there the viewing is fairly poor and I feel a mile away from the track. I must say the indoor facilities are pretty good though compared to some. I went twice last year and will I go back in 2024? Probably not worth the hassle for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justathought 374 Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, FishersGate said: I'm only a 45 minute drive away from Perry bar. What puts me off going is the fact I have to fight through traffic everytime. If I get there early I can't park it at the stadium either. Once I'm in there the viewing is fairly poor and I feel a mile away from the track. I must say the indoor facilities are pretty good though compared to some. I went twice last year and will I go back in 2024? Probably not worth the hassle for me. Yea. It can put people off. After a long day at work ........... a lot of people are probably up to their hassle limit. Perhaps a lot feel it's not worth the extra effort. The latest estimate of Birmingham’s population is the 2021 population census estimate. There are 1,144,900 people living in Birmingham according to the census. Edited December 22, 2023 by justathought 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 5,017 Posted December 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, FishersGate said: I'm only a 45 minute drive away from Perry bar. What puts me off going is the fact I have to fight through traffic everytime. If I get there early I can't park it at the stadium either. Once I'm in there the viewing is fairly poor and I feel a mile away from the track. I must say the indoor facilities are pretty good though compared to some. I went twice last year and will I go back in 2024? Probably not worth the hassle for me. Can't you park at the one stop shopping centre? Isn't it like the Beaumont Leys parking limited to 4 hours? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GiveusaB 1,145 Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) Things that most likely put the neutral off going (as already mentioned) Traffic is dire in the area. Viewing (outside) is poor Track has been inconsistent since Terry left (but 'hooray', he's back next year) Things that most likely put the 'Home/Brum' fans off : Poor sides assembled over the last 2 seasons!!! Hoping it's not going to happen this season!? P.s If you dont mind a 5/10 mins walk, there's plenty of street parking if people make the effort to look !? Edited December 22, 2023 by GiveusaB 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heathen52 384 Posted December 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, justathought said: I think I'm correct in saying that Birmingham have had several different homes over the years. When you consider that Birmingham has a massive catchment area, you would think that gates of 1,500 is possible. Does the location of the stadium have anything to do with it, is it especially difficult to get to, is the traffic at that time of evening a nightmare ? The location of the Stadium is not the issue it's the congestion in the PB area and local Motorway network that is the nightmare, as an example from Cradley Heath the shortest route is about 11 miles via Blackheath & M5 Jct 2 along M5 to Jct 1 which is now notorius for Traffic delays, then past the Hawthorns (WBA) to Island road, Hamstead Hill, Rocky Lane to the A34 in PB, that route can take anything from 35 minutes to over an hour. The second route about 13 miles again Takes you to the M5 Jct 2 but this time continue to the M6 south at Jct 8 and leave immediately at Jct 7 for the A34 down to Perry Barr this again can take anything from 30 minutes to over an hour depending on Traffic, there are ways to Perry Barr that do not use the Motorway but at 6-00pm of an evening it's not really any quicker, yes shorter maybe but lot's of stop start driving if you fancy that after a day's graft. It has been suggested that it would be a help if Birmingham could stage some home meetings on Bank Holiday mondays to help with traffic congestion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishersGate 522 Posted December 22, 2023 27 minutes ago, iainb said: Can't you park at the one stop shopping centre? Isn't it like the Beaumont Leys parking limited to 4 hours? That's what I did last time so that is an option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
