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The flag Marshall was under instruction to stop the out of control Cook, Vissing and other rider from coming around and riding in front of the other riders who were still being introduced to the crowd, along with members of the public who were also trackside. The Marshall is a hero from stopping potential carnage.

Passion...... half way through a riders presentation??? if you get to that point before the other team has even been announced you need to either up your medication or find another career

Should of been a set number of matches per rider not days

You can argue about it for pages ( and probably will). They got what they deserved and will think twice ( or maybe not cook as he has history for this). Before being dicks again

I think the lad was doing his job would appear the scb agree as well!

And that stupid man with the red flag who started it all?

Ed wasn't part of the original incident, instead he ran 30 yards towards it, then started scrapping. It was nowt to do with him. I can't see how Louis or anyone else can argue against his actions that lead to the ban.

His job is NOT to wave a red flag on the track or walk in front of a rider under power!

That should signal another 50 pages

Interesting ruling led by Mr J Cook’s old friend Mr N Vatcher. Surprised that the only Eastbourne rider punished is Mr E Kennett, when I distinctly saw 2 Eastbourne riders piling into the scrum. Mr C Vissing appears to have received a ban for deliberately breaking the tapes. Surprised that the Eastbourne employee allegedly Mr P Dugard not censured for his aggression towards Mr C Cook. Given the haphazard frequency of the fixtures in British speedway shouldn’t bans be for a number of meeting rather than a number of days? I do hope that the many Eastbourne “co promoters” and their announcer take heed of the results of their overtly provocative personal remarks made during the “ pre meeting parade” . No mention of suggested improvements to the Eastbourne track conditions which started this whole sorry affair.

They should also for the safety issues it caused on the night. The job of a marshal is NEVER to stand on the track waving a red flag at any time. So no he wasn’t doing his job. Irrelevant. The minute a rider gets on his bike no marshal is meant to be on the track. Don’t be silly. The marshal would NEVER be instructed to stop a rider! A marshals job is to wave a red flag from the infield at all times. That’s it. The Marshal was an out Of control fool. As a marshal I can answer that. You have to sign a health and safety form at the start of the season. Flag marshal responsibilities are to red flag if the red lights come on and not before. You wave flag from designated area on infield, designated for SAFETY for all. Also to ensure anyone (Press/visitor/mascot/sponsor etc) stays behind the designated area usually from the safety of the middle of the centre green. You aren’t allowed to enter the track when riders on on their bikes on the track, wear visible clothing, you aren’t meant to tamper with any bikes unless it’s to turn off fuel taps (unless you have experience of the bikes) even after a crash. At no time does it suggest you can stand in the middle of the track flagging when riders are on track. Ever. Completely agree. Health and safety issues have to be paramount.

As a Marshall myself I know I’m not allowed onto the track when riders are on bikes, something I sign to say I understand and comply with health and safety issues. Red flags are shown from the infield of the track. So it’s not an opinion at all.

So you've gained out of this then...

Can I just point out along with other folk that if this in fact is the case (and only you seem to be aware of it) David Wallinger is currently 5th in Plymouth's averages and as such cannot be the sole reason for Plymouth's impending (as you would have it) demise. To blame the Redcar promotion is desperation personified.

You have no idea regarding BB leaving Redcar , the club had given help beyond what they needed to.

Since when has it said anywhere in the rule book an official's duties should include walking in front of a rider under power and obstruct him? Common sense tells you you don't do that - the guy was being an officious idiot.

I wonder if Buster asked the SCB to check the fixture list first?

Cookie banned for 12 days https://www.scbgb.co.uk/news.php?extend.86.1

Halifax Tiger with respect we have all given our opinions on what has happened over the last few weeks. You are not bringing anything new to this thread just repeating things that have already been said.

Irreplaceable in many ways.... RR not a good option....and who's out there that could ever replace our Mr Entertainment? .. This is the worst news for Scunny... Get well soon Danny, heal soon matey.

Don't get +5% for the reserve.

Perhaps doubling up is the real problem, not the ban. What do you think?

Yes his word Trumps everything

The red lights came on as they entered bend 2. Just before the video started. So no red lights were ignored at all. Soon as the red lights came on you can see craig heading towards the open gate to get off track.

The trouble with giving 10 or 12 day bans is that a club with two home meetings in that time can flood the track and the referee says it is not fit for racing so the rider does not in fact miss any meetings while another team may have four or five away meetings in that time which the rider has to miss. The bans should have been one/two/three home and one/two/three away matchs so that they all miss the same number of meetings.

Quote from SCB statement: Over the last 2 weeks, the SCB Co Ordinator has requested witness statements from a number of licenced officials who were in attendance at the Eastbourne v Glasgow fixture on Saturday 3rd August, and also has reviewed video evidence from the scenes that happened prior to that fixture. The 3rd of August was 8 days ago. Mr Vatcher's time sheets must make interesting reading

Grow up man! As Boothers has already pointed out, Wallinger is 5th in your averages, hardly setting the place alight and certainly not enough to stop your supporters from turning up once he's gone. There are riders out there if you're prepared to go looking for them. To suggest that the Bears will be responsible if you club isn't running next season, well, how many millions of times have I told you not to exaggerate!

Possibly if we can get track specialists, especially for BV and Ipswich. We can beat Poole with anyone

Totally different situation with Ben like Norfolk Bear says. He was and is still liked by the Redcar fans, but that was a different situation the management were put under. If they didn't think anything of him they wouldn't of kept him as long as they did.

No mention of any sanctions against Dugard or Eastbourne's failure to control their track staff. During this time we have Leicester B home and away this weekend with Leicester away on the Saturday. Guest choices will need to be wise. Perhaps Chazzer Wright could do us a turn for Friday and Sunday. A small track specialist definitely required for Saturday. I was going to say Danny King but there's no way Damo would allow that. Remains to be seen if the Glasgow riders appeal, at which point they should still be able to ride until the appeal is heard.

Its been Monday 19th since BT published their choice of meetings. Who will replace Vissing I wonder?

Much too lenient for all 3. Should have been at least to the end of the month!!! Apparently Cook waved the white flag!!

Sadly speedway sold it's media rights to Dick Turpin , the reinvestment rate of Turpin via advertising is zero , but the legal threats to anyone wanting to promote the sport using media are top priority . shame that all the sky dosh found its way into Dicks pockets , there, was an opportuinity to reinvest in some advertising to attract people who don't already follow speedway rather than constantly preaching to the converted

If it is off I'll just tell my wife I decided not to go to spend the evening with her - it will earn me some credit after pointing out I was out 4 evenings out of 7 at Speedway (maybe 5 out of 8 if I go to Scunny) Nobody spill the beans and tell her it was cancelled if this happens

All three banned for the fracas at Eastboune. Cook for 12 days, Kennet and Vissing for 10 days. Ban starts tomorrow. Discuss. Statement from SCB. Over the last 2 weeks, the SCB Co Ordinator has requested witness statements from a number of licenced officials who were in attendance at the Eastbourne v Glasgow fixture on Saturday 3rd August, and also has reviewed video evidence from the scenes that happened prior to that fixture.It has proven that 3 riders, Craig Cook, Claus Vissing and Edward Kennett all Breached Speedway Regulation 3.2.8 which reads -Any act which is violent, threatening or abusive nature to any official, rider or any other person.Based on the evidence received and with the support of 2 SCB Officers, the following penalties have been applied -Craig Cook - SCB Registration suspended for a period of 12 days 12th August - 23rd August 2019Claus Vissing - SCB Registration suspended for a period of 10 days 12th August - 21st August 2019Edward Kennett - SCB Registration suspended for a period of 10 days 12th August - 21st August 2019Neil VatcherSCB Co-ordinator

Nothing broken for Antonio according to his Swedish team's website.

As soon as the bikes started up, the red lights (apparently) came on and so red flags were shown. There has to be a sequence and catalogue of events. That’s all I’m saying. Yes we know riders pushed off whilst parade was still on, what we don’t know is why. No marshal should be in the middle of track whilst bikes on track. Even if on pits gate.

people are picking cherries from this topic and turning it into something that its not . there is only one man to blame , end of !

At Poole the flag marshal stands in the middle of the track ten metres in front of the tapes with flag raised. Whilst away riders don helmets and sit on their bikes during parade, none have ever ridden off past the flag Marshall. Absolutely agree. A simple solution is that riders are not allowed to Don helmets or straddle a bike until all riders have been announced. Keep the bikes behind the riders and mechanics hold onto helmets until intros finished. Simple.

Let's get real. There's been loads of debate about the conduct of riders, a member of staff, other riders and mechanics, but what sparked this whole incident? Glasgow/Craig Cook didn't like the track preparation. Several Glasgow riders decided to play silly buggers during a well understood rider presentation and the rest is history. So you decide. Did Eastbourne prepare a poor track or did some Glasgow riders decide to make a point? I don't know. But focusing on the resulting fight is rather missing the point.

There should be mention made of the responsibilities of the Eastbourne promotion to ensure all Marshals are aware of their responsibilities which include keeping themselves and others safe from harm. There is an infield line on centre greens for a reason at all tracks, it’s the SAFE distance a marshal should stand between centre green and track. And NEVER on track when bikes are on. If Eastbourne aren’t held accountable or put out there own statement about safety of staff then no lessons will be learned and it’s yet another accident waiting to happen.

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thus saving a long walk/push for the mechanics pushing and bikes .gate was open ( as footage shows ) so it made it easier . not a problem .why walk the full distance when you can half it ? shirley this thread cannot surpass the other easbourne / glasgow thread , or can it ?

To stay on the infield (a safe place) and wave their flag. Do you think stepping in front of a moving motorcycle without brakes is a smart thing to do?

The entrance to the pits is half way down the back straight, meaning the three riders would have had to have ridden past the riders who were still being introduced! There were families by the riders!

Plymouth would have changed Wallinger in an instant if they could have found someone else who could be arsed to drive down the M5. No loyalty from most clubs towards riders these days that’s been shown across all 3 leagues so don’t expect any in return

Those punishments too severe IMHO

And what punishment do the Eastbourne Promotion get?

I was @ the Leicester meeting, what I saw of Ellis Perks was a rider loving the track & conditions so much he was showboating, this was why in one heat he did a 360........... What Plymouth (& 90% OF OTHER TRACKS) do need is an affordable supplier of quality shale for the track. This is something that has to be addressed collectively by the SCB/ BSPA. One thing you cannot do is knock the Plymouth promotion for effort & Bob C & others if I was retired & living in the Plymouth area I would be offering my services not knocking their hard work.

What sort of statement is that? Kelly was stopped from riding so they brought a local lad in as a guest who had ridden for them in the past , Gems brought a National League rider from Stoke into their team who I understand had also ridden for them once before . You really do put some silly comments on here.