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You know, that would probably be the most named four... Funny how the most unpopular riders are all multi-world champs; says it all, really!

Friend of mine worked for years with Slater's when out of the blue they sacked him. Took them to court for funfair dismissal

On 30/9/1995 at 7:15 PM, Craig Boyce said: Tomasz Gollob

Simon Cross. Spoon.

then the body should be rested and not just turn up and go through the motions .. thats my thoughts ..

No the best race of the night is normally watching the must get out the car park first brigade, normally after heat 14.

I think I agree. But doesn't that support the argument that the Challenge should be after the GP season? The more current GP riders that take part in the plan B route, the more devalued the Challenge becomes. I know we still get 3 qualifiers from the Challenge, come what may. But we might have to go well down the finishing order to see who that is. And worse still, we won't know who those 3 are, on the night or potentially for many weeks. Surely the Challenge route was set up to provide a focused route for the top three riders to get into the GP series? Not as a safety net for riders in the middle and lower order of the current series.

Many tracks no longer fit with modern engines. Look at what is served up at some tracks that were superb even less than 10 years ago. Whilst its not the only reason for the lack of entertainment, team owners need to adapt their product (track shape/width etc) to suit the modern era. Very few have or will bother to do so. Entertainment IMO is about passing not necessarily speed and the ridiculous gulf between abilities at the top and bottom of the riders averages wont achieve that. Nor will poorly prepared tracks. If last night the riders were on £250 for the meeting that is likely to be around a quarter of what most of the top enders will take home. I'm not surprised they don't take it seriously or put themselves out. There is no prestige in these events and wont be again unless the competitors are adequately rewarded for taking part. Speedway doesn't even give out medals to the league winners far less reward the riders and their teams for being better than the rest over a season. The whole ethos up is fundamentally flawed but we already know that. Unfortunately we also accept its not going to change.

No it proves exactly what you are

The Steve Shovlar of Ipswich?

Could potentially be the last time we see Chris Harris in Witches Kevlars around Foxhall. Every cloud and all that..

Think about what your saying before you open your mouth if you don't know for sure what the real reason was.

Sounds broadly similar to the Cradley match last week, my first visit to the NSS and enjoyed the experience (if not the actual match!) Seeing the Colts guys deep in the dirt was a pleasure, especially Flint who has a fantastic style leaning over so far. Cradley couldn't lay a glove on the Colts, I can't remember the last time Clegg went a whole match without winning a heat, nor the last time he registered a last place but none of the Cradley riders were able to live with the home team. Harry McGurk was unlucky in the reserve race where he was in the mix for the lead and suffered engine troubles. Great value NL racing for sure at a fantastic venue, kids for free and £10 per adult is great stuff

Ha, you making it sound better than it actually was, it was a typical foxhall turdfest

Well if it is Eurosport lets hope the coverage is better than what they have dished up in the past, starting the broadcasts at Ht17 etc, Sky were definitely the best, and BT would have been ok if they had covered more meetings. Just an opinion.

Ha ha seriously? You just written the same guff as you put it, for the christ knows how manyth time. Just saying

So you expect reading racer to make sense!!

I was a big Kenny fan, & im from Worcestershire!

I hope that when the dust has settled from this debacle of a season there is some philanthropist willing to step in and repair the damage this season has caused to Panthers.

Dave is his uncle. Dave's brother and Ellis' father is former ref Robbie Perks Edit - correction Dave is ELLIS' great uncle.

The boo's that were made were out out of respect more than anything else he was the benchmark that everyone had to try to expire to..He certainly put bums on seats and when he came into town the place was buzzing.The incident Ivan had with Bob Kilby at the Abbey was the only time he may have been in the wrong that i ever witnessed but he was a hard but fair rider.

I seem to remember he pulled wheelies down every straight to keep the crowd entertained as they watched the less than edge of the seat spectacle of one rider completing four laps all alone.. Obviously the ref didn't appreciate his efforts.. Or lack of them as he saw it... You have to remember though that the crowd were primarily there to watch him referee, not to be entertained by the show the riders were putting on for them...

Greaves rode to the pits after someone fell bend 2 (thinking the race was gonna be stopped)and was excluded. Then Ayres and Phillip's either fell or had mechanicals and both set off to push for 3 laps, both were excluded for not completing the race in 3 mins.

Which is completely his own fault with the bare minimum cheap ass team he has provided us with this year.

Well Ben Morley did ride and scored 13 points in a match won by Kent 48-42

... and yet back in the "golden" days the tractors came out at the end of every race and did a couple of laps. Meetings dragged on for two hours - only 13 heats in those days too - but everything was sunshine and lollipops. Admittedly at most tracks the music being played today is the same as we listened to as the tractors tootled round in the 1970s

Start delayed 30 minutes at Eskilstuna due to rain.

You are a rarity in the Midlands. I don't think many Team Kenny Carter coats were sold at Dudley Wood. I must add, there was a pantomime element to it all. Much like a lot of the riders mentioned. I loved booing Kenny Carter racing against Belle Vue. But I was also bloody glad he was in the England team too!

Actually thought it better than the previous time Poole were at Foxhall . I don't think that was the best race though.

No problem with the Ryan MacDonald situation. They were only covering with unattached MDL riders as per the rules, and they have recently redeclared with Josh Embleton in his place. The real dodgy one that Leicester seem to be pulling is Luke Ruddick. He was ruled out on 24 May with a 9 day concussion suspension due to complaining of a headache after a fall. He still hasn't reappeared, yet Leicester are being allowed to continue to run R/R for him (which scores good points) even though the 9 day suspension has long passed.

Ryan’s work was giving him a hard time for changing days off to go to speedway some dates were getting changed and he had to give plenty notice for unpaid time off and it was not really possible and his work has to come first so couldn’t guarantee we could do all the remaining matches and having to pull out of the iow match left Leicester trying to get cover and didn’t want this to happen again with only mdl riders to cover for him they wanted someone who could do all the rest of this seasons meetings mind you They could Have got Ryan Mac to guest tonight lol

Sorry - I didn’t realise I needed your permission - humblest apologies

probably may not get run now which is a shame may be wrong

Quote from the excellent book 'Speedway in Scotland' by Jim Henry and Ian Moultray: 'The pioneer Broxburn track did not even get the length of staging a meeting. This 436-yard track was the pioneer shale track built using waste retorted oil shale used to surface the modern day Scottish venues. In 1929, an impromptu race between Drew McQueen and Sam Reid at a motorcycle club event lasted two laps before Reid fell.'

No. Peterborough announced a date without Wolves agreeing to it. There's a difference.

Peterborough press release this morning: PETERBOROUGH'S final meeting of a difficult season will take place at the East of England Arena on a rare Tuesday night. The Crendon Panthers have finally agreed a date with play-off chasing Wolverhampton for Tuesday September 17. As with all remaining home meetings - starting with Belle Vue this Thursday - Carl Johnson's side can have a major say on the play-off race. "It's been tough," said Johnson. "But now we have our final date in place we can focus on getting the best out of what we have. "We want to see the fans backing the team, backing the club and showing what the sport means to them at Peterborough." Swindon, who are aiming to finish top, are the visitors next Monday, September 9, before the Wolves fixture.

Maybe now that plan B has worked the shackles are off so they're riding with less pressure. They've both been pretty under par all season but all of a sudden they now ride to their ability

Many thanks for the info, think this could be a nightmare one to sort out!

I think Dave Perks was the first rider to go straight in to first division with Cradley in 1972 I think ?

wont make any difference because I think both will be in the playoffs anyway

In my years (50s onwards) as a spectator, mechanic and sponsor, those three stood out as being unpopular, they might well have been adored by their own fans etc but I was going by the thread title.

Alan Grahame, could dish it out, but could not receive it.

I agree, Jorgensen’s time at Lynn has surely run its course now. Im going to stick my neck out and say that Robert and Lewis have been disappointing this year. Capable of much more than they have shown. MPT and Erik the two bright spots of a pretty wretched campaign high has fallen way, way below the standards of last season.

some might call it average lowering . and a hell of a lot more , would say wallinger has only ever been any good in his own mind , and a lovely chap to boot , that's why he's been dropped by every club he's ridden for .and theres not many he hasn't . god only knows why teams keep giving him places .

But that's because the boozers were shutting at 10pm!!

Thought you would be glad not having to watch 'drivel'.

The plaudits of the previous posters say it all. Not many riders go through a whole career with barely a bad word said about them but everyone liked AJ. AJ - A massive talent, and thoroughly nice bloke. Leigh Lanham said his favourite times in the sport were riding No 2 at Lakeside with AJ at No1. Fantastic team rider . It was always amusing to see AJ coming off bend 2 and pointing to where he wanted Leigh to go, left or right, Leigh would go there and AJ would bring him home. One thing many people didn’t see was that he was meticulously organised and always treated his mechanics extremely well. All good things come to an end. Sorry to see AJ go but as has been said, he has taken a lot of knocks and I am glad to see him leave in one piece, and while he is still relatively near the top. He still rides at No1 in my dream team though.

B up 4 this .Big Big home win Puk will toy with Doyle like a mouse

Not a fan of Air Horns. Why do folk have to make a noise that upsets others who have no choice in the matter? Sorry - but I would ban them.

New Cross Ranger...there's a name to bring back my memories of early post war Speedway in London. Used to love to go down the Old Kent Rd to the "Frying Pan" when the Hammers rode there. Eric Chitty was a master of New Cross, but the greatest of all was the king of balance, Ron Johnson. Very pleased that, like myself, you are still a keen fan. I now go every week to Sittingbourne Central Park as the Hammers are no more. I like the comfort and viewing, suits my tired old legs ! Not a bad young team either !