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Here goes.... av got a phone book down the back of me pants... Forget the Siemens site it won't happen... not as long as you have a hole in your posterior... you don't get a licence to create noise... when you apply for planning you tell people what you will be doing and they either put up with it or object... the council will consider whether the noise is acceptable or not and base it on the amount of objections they recieve... and may uphold the objections... it's complicated but again once you start the process there could be post objections then you run the risk of abatement orders that may be applied... Honestly forget Siemens... far to close to housing and difficult to suppress noise, smell and dirt... Rob Grant has been very open and honest as to what his options are and where he is at with various local authorities... he has always stated that he wants to run as a "training track"/"practice track" during the week to generate funds so the noise could be daily not just three hours on a Sunday... (Or Monday) What also needs to be noted is that it won't be a Stadium... you wouldn't call the Redcar or Scunthorpe venues Stadiums they are "Motor Parks" or "Raceways" not Stadiums like the NSS in Manchester... where ever the club ends up think Redcar and Scunthorpe... Not Brough Berwick Ashfield Sheffield NSS and the likes where there are fixed stands and a Stadium format... it won't be the new Brough Park to start with it will be the original New Rough Park... and possibly quite basic... however it will be a new home offering security and longevity for the club and the promotion has to start somewhere... he's called Grant not Abramovich... monies will be tight the first few years I would suggest... So where to... and the outskirts of the city are where we will end up without a doubt... and again Granty has been open with what his options currently are... on the outskirts of Newcastle a couple of sites have been mentioned and met with positivity from Newcastle Authority... these sites are located near Throckley and Seaton Burn... North Tyneside are looking at a couple of more sites with one on the A19 tunnel approach and one or two more out on the coast... although they are struggling with the site size requirement and a site in Gateshead towards Kibblesworth through a Farmer that Rob knows... again it needs to be remembered that the local authority may not own the land... it may be farmland or land owned by a third party but the whole process is a complicated one... this can't be stressed enough... You have to empathise with Rob Grant and his promotional team though surely in these wretched times with this poxy Covid coming along when it did... he bought the club and was late to the party but managed to pull a team together and then wham Covid kicked in... lock down.. and Granty and his team don't get to turn a wheel in anger for a whole season... then the Dogs through ARC start getting a bit bolshie after he has pumped money into the track... it has certainly been a tough start to his promotional career for sure.... If (when) we get to move and wherever it is I hope we draw in some new fans... I know it will be hard to move but we won't be the first side to find a new home and sure some folk will take the losing of Brough Park hard and as the last straw but if you want a viable club it could be the only option the promotion have and I'm sure these decisions won't be taken lightly but if you want to watch Speedway then a change could be imminent and the only answer... Good luck to the promotion and hopefully every one will see the issues with Brough and get behind what the promotion are having to do to ensure the future of the sport in the region... As long as we don't end up in Snuderland cos a couldn't bring me self to go there.... anywhere but Mackum land... Regards THJ

I am led to believe the site is the last patch of ground as you go through Seaton Burn on the B1318 to the A19 roundabout on the left hand side that picks up on the A1 southbound slip road; sort of between the two large roundabouts... however; and again this is one of the problems... this land does not belong to the council it belongs to a third party so there are a mountain of issues and I would suggest you are right in that the test drilling will have nothing to do with the Speedway... although it does give some idea as to the type of sites that Rob is looking at/for.... How very dare you... No I would go to Speedway again... just not in Snuderland... there isn't enough Dettol to wash in to get the stink off after a visit and to be fair there is always Northside... That's official... definitely unofficial... Regards THJ

Such a fence would seem to be wholly inadequate if comparewd with what we have at Central Park. There, the acoiustic fence is 6 metres high, and that sits on top of steep banking which I guess is 3/4 metres above track level, so a total of about nearly 30 feet in old money. The cost of such a fence around a new track would, I guess, be prohibitive. You need a Council who approve of Speedway in the 1st instance, not one opposed to it. I hope the various councils in the North East are the right kind.

Prague will go ahead according to the club on facebook. They say the Gorzow paddock rumours is all 'fake news'.

With two riders averaging close to 20 points between them and generally finishing up well ahead of their teammates on the score sheet, it might seem strange to mention the Southampton team of 1962 on this thread. The fact is that the team became league champions without a recognised third heat leader. It was therefore necessary for other team members to put in a “compact team performance” and equal or better the points scored by Briggs and Knutson in order to win the match. Fortunately they had the type of solid performers who could do exactly that to break the domination of Wimbledon and win the National League title that year.

magnificent effort by Belle Vue to put on a top level match in September ...even if it is behind closed doors. I will be getting my online ticket and look forward to this match A massive thank you to Adrian and Mark plus all others that are involved.

I think THJ has got it spot on. Re style of stadium, banked earth keeps the noise in but at Leicester we had to have a double skinned acoustic fence all around the stadium which is basically 2 inch planks of wood that overlap and in our case had to be mounted to a timber frame on an individual basis. (I never want to see a nail gun in my life again).

Bydgoszcz will be announced today I reckon (last logistical day to do it). Not the amount of virus in Czech Republic the issue but the concern that if 1 person gets tested positive over the weekend the Series Finale and PL in Poland are at risk. Polish Federation dictates again. Watch this space

So, before we get to a third page on Covid, what are our thoughts on the weekend's GPs?

Should BWitcher get infected by COVID-19, then no, I would not expect him to need any treatment (certainly nothing out of the ordinary), and certainly not need a hospital bed. Sadly, with your medical history, James, you may be more at risk. Before you say anything, I do not consider that I am "at risk", but my wife (who has several underlying health conditions, including a compromised immune system), would be. The trouble is that you seem to believe the blanket panic that has continued to spread. As Mark said, increased testing has increased the number of confirmed infections, but for the vast majority - who are relatively healthy, and not over 80 - it is not a serious issue. I have lost a couple of friends to it, and know several others who have been infected, but again, for most victims, it is nothing more than .a minor complaint. Here in the US, which as you know, has been affected badly, it is still not the civilisation-threatening affliction that many make it out to be. So far, we've had 194,000 deaths from the virus. That sounds a lot, I agree, but (and I know this will sound harsh) a good number of those would have succumbed to other ailments, particularly underlying ones, this year. The fact is that over 600,000 Americans a year die from heart disease, and a further 600,000 die from cancer. Even though people may die "from" COVID-19, many will actually be dying from their underlying conditions. Unfortunately, we've been brainwashed into believing that, if you die while suffering from COVID-19, that means you died FROM it, which is totally untrue. For most of us, it is nothing to worry unduly about - and certainly not worth bringing the world to a standstill for...

Edinburgh streaming live youth championship on Saturday

WE will take it up with Royal Mail ... first class is first class no matter the wrapper

I thought Vastervik once again showed what a great racetrack it is.

I have noticed quite recently that Bet 365 have been gradually reducing the odds on a handicap draw from 14/1 or 12/1 down to a low as 8/1 like tonight's tv match. The problem is that Bet 365 nearly has a monopoly on Speedway betting so why give anything away.When Sky first started televising live league matches there were up to 18 bookmakers offering odds so it was heaven to bet on Speedway It was so easy to win on matches but today it is nearly impossible. Then there was another big thing that Bookmakers would take your bets what ever they were even in three figures , today Betsafe have halved all of my last three odds on bets even though one was a loser. Betting on Speedway to win is finished

Rybnik v Wroclaw Monday 14th September. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1g1nYhvC7A

& I can just see you with a pint of Double Maxim... & After about 10 saying ( weys keys are these mara )

Not sure Ruff!!! Sorry... but again its privately owned so there would be a lot of hoops to jump through if it was to go forward... however the council have said they wouldn't be to upset if that's were they went ultimately... so having the council on-side is a big plus... where as they wouldn't support an application for the Siemens site I don't think.... but this is just one of several sites I believe Rob has looked at... Regards THJ

A short session is planned at Duns this Saturday afternoon (19th) from noon until 3pm. Speedway, flat-track and mini-bikes all welcome, £20 for the session. Book in by messenger....

Finn Thomsen 1977-1978 would put a cup of warer in his fuel when track got slick

Confirmed teams here from around 5.30pm Vastervik v Dackarna https://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/Competition/DrivingSchedule/CompetitionLiveResult.aspx?Branch=Speedway&Columns=CompetitionInfo,Branch,Name,Arena,FromDateShort&Datefilter=Today&pagesize=6&CompetitionId=12153 Vetlanda v Lejonen https://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/Competition/DrivingSchedule/CompetitionLiveResult.aspx?Branch=Speedway&Columns=CompetitionInfo,Branch,Name,Arena,FromDateShort&Datefilter=Today&pagesize=6&CompetitionId=12154 Rospiggarna v Masarna https://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/Competition/DrivingSchedule/CompetitionLiveResult.aspx?Branch=Speedway&Columns=CompetitionInfo,Branch,Name,Arena,FromDateShort&Datefilter=Today&pagesize=6&CompetitionId=12156 Indianerna v Piraterna https://ta.svemo.se/Public/Pages/Competition/DrivingSchedule/CompetitionLiveResult.aspx?Branch=Speedway&Columns=CompetitionInfo,Branch,Name,Arena,FromDateShort&Datefilter=Today&pagesize=6&CompetitionId=12155

Recall hair spray (?) on tyres being banned for indoor events that were all the craze back in the late seventies/early eighties.

See, THJ is like Newcastles unofficial PR guy.

I'm not THAT big a clown (despite my profile picture)...

Of course it's the argument. Even if I CAUGHT Covid-19, I'd still have more chance of being stabbed than being hospitalised from it. You're acting as it its some kind of death sentence. Right now it's the least of your worries with flu/pneumonia involved in 10 x the deaths and hospitalisations.

Lets sincerely hope that you are not unfortunate enough to get infected...if you are...then can we all assume that you will not bother the NHS nor any medical practitioner, nor take up a bed, instead rely totally on your own beliefs and confidence ??..In that case I would stand corrected

That is a very thoughtful comment...i would agree in part with that...equally i am not ignorant enough to go down the route of "bullrubbish"..Indeed knowing sadly someone who suffered dreadfully before passing, and equally someone who had covid but is thankfully recovering (albeit slowly)..it isn't something I would enjoy having. The mismanagement of Uk and USA governments borders on the criminal. During my mis-spent life and having survived a heart attack and later (the bullrubbish) of Sepsis, I ain't taking no chances Guvnor.

456 deaths in total in the whole of the Czech Republic since the beginning. And you're all falling for the utter BS of 'rampant'.. and 'big time increase'. The last time there were more than five in a day was May 22nd. The more tests, the more cases. People get colds you know.. and will increasingly do so as the weather cools.

Good ride by Masden there through the middle of Pawlicki and Kubera

Is this yoda?

I have to agree a lot of what is being said about Michael on this thread. He was brilliant at the age of 16 the like of which I have never seen in any other rider in 50 years. In my view even the extremely talented Darcy Ward was well short of the level Michael was at as a teenager.

Hull and Workington both had winning teams in their final seasons , but did not come to the tapes the following season . worky even had cookie in the team when he was an out n out number one . being local , craig put a few more bums in the ground . but not that many to shout about . the sport is too expensive to run with riders expecting full time wages . early days glory cannot be kept going in this day n age .

Between us in our household we have been to lots of places - The Crystal Maze Experience Warwick Castle Alton Towers Chessington Thorpe Park Legoland Sea Life Centre Music Lessons Have been working in the office and at school all through too Life is for living and we need to start getting on with it ASAP

Four main reasons I would think 1. Manchester is in varying degrees of lockdown week to week so planning an event there at the moment is very risky and has no guarantee it will happen. 2. Ipswich has around two thirds more capacity than the NSS so when percentage restrictions are applied you can still get a reasonable (and more importantly viable), crowd in.. 3. With Kings Lynn, Peterborough and Mildenhall all 'local' you have four lots of Speedway starved fanbases to pull from, which (with a good few from around other parts attending) hopefully will ensure all tickets available will be sold.. And 4. Ipswich might be 'in the middle of nowhere' but does traditionally at Easter get one of the largest crowds (if not THE largest single crowd), of the season at any track, so obviously have a strong underlying fanbase who show they will attend on one off occasions.. Put it all together and I would think the size of the venue, the amount of awareness of Speedway that exists in that geographical area, and the fairly low impact of Covid 19 to that part of the country, ticks a lot of boxes when it comes to planning and putting on an event that needs a crowd to be a financially viable...

It doesn't offer a British Speedway Final 26/09/2020

Obviously not been to Ipswich for a long time up until last year but I was very impressed with the improvements made over the years. I saw some ok races and a very good race between Fricke and heeps, yes its only one race but it shows that it can produce outstanding racing size wise its the best stadia in the UK to get a bigger crowd in, so good luck to you hopefully hosting a few big meetings

He was my first favourite rider. On the night I first went to speedway, New Cross were racing against Norwich in the Britannia Shield. They had had a poor start to the season. On that night Ove Fundin and Aub Lawson were almost unbeatable. Ove scored an 18 point maximum, while Aub scored 16 paid 17. The only New Cross rider to beat him was Jimmy Gooch. He instantly became my favourite. Especially as he top scored for New Cross and the Rangers won their first match for several weeks. At that time, the final heat was a nominated riders' heat and New Cross nominated Split Waterman and Eric Williams to loud boos from the New Cross supporters who thought the hero of the night, Jimmy Gooch, should be nominated in place of Split. As the race started, Split reared at the start and a re-run was ordered. Split was unable to take part, so, in true poetic justice fashion, Jimmy Gooch replaced him. Although Ove and Aub scored a 5-1, Jimmy came third, beating Eric Williams. He remained my favourite until New Cross closed at the end of 1961....though Reg Luckhurst did run him close when he became a regular Ranger.

And in the Speedway Star, Adrian Smith once again mentions how an independent body running the sport would be a major move forward for it.. Tsk. These people coming into Speedway wanting to drag it out of its self inflicted malaise and modernise it.. I don't know..... Who do they think they are?...

My country, The Netherlands, also joins the list of countries advising against unnecessary trips to prague