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  1. And it doesnt really matter what the "rules" are, because, as we know, Polish Speedway will do exactly what is right for Polish Speedway, at even the slightest hint of them being impacted... Up to, and including, banning their riders from leaving...
    5 points
  2. But isn't there a presumption that sportsmen stay in bubbles with their team mates/ fellow competitors - a model that doesn't work when riders ride for different teams in different countries.
    5 points
  3. Seen a bit from Kurtz that he leaves for Poland soon and HOPES to be able to travel between countries to compete in Britain He is not the only one in this position and I cant see it being the UK coming off best I can see a shambles approaching.......
    5 points
  4. This has to be seriously the worst post I've read in ages the Njl is a far better product than any other junior league racing. They give riders from 125 cc the chance to compete from 8 years old and go right through to 500 . Other junior leagues give juniors a race when 15 on 500s only and above and already at an adequate level having raced in other junior competitions examples British youth or amateur meetings then try and claim they developed them . Don't give me mdl sdl are the saviours of speedway they are far from it. that said much respect to those who volunteer to do the organising
    4 points
  5. BSPZzzz motto these days - "our way or the highway". No room for renegade promotions that do things differently, that do a bit of forward thinking, that innovate, that aim to do well, or that actually "promote". You march in step or you ship out...and sadly IoW have shipped out.
    4 points
  6. Well thank you those in power at the BSPL for ruining what is the most interesting League in British speedway! This smells very similar to the BSPA's attempts to water down the 1997 3rd tier and try and force standalone clubs to move up by restricting the amount of fixtures which wasn't overly productive. Having top up and coming riders beating novices by half a lap isn't going make them World class riders and will also cause fans to lose interest! Wobblers already had the Junior Leagues to start in and any rider with some potential would soon get a NL spot! Standalone tracks that don't want the expense of higher League racing were content in the 3rd tier including the IoW who've been one of the most go ahead clubs in recent years, now sadly lost to League racing. The BSPL have short memories cause a few years ago the NL was the saviour of current Championship sides Birmingham and Eastbourne. If a similar scenario occurred now would the likes of Eastbourne and Birmingham have dropped into the new watered down limited NL? - After all the IoW have opted out! As a Mildenhall regular I fear for the club in this new set up and the lovely Sunday afternoon racing at West Row which more often than not was better value for money than its higher League neighbours! I respect Rob Godfrey for what hes achieved at Scunthorpe but as chairman of the BSPL hes made dreadful decisions like the set race days, forcing other Friday night clubs to postpone home meeting at late notice a few years back and now this all of which have resulted in club closures.
    4 points
  7. Yes but Poland may say that nobody including sportsmen are not allowed in from UK just like Germany. Spain etc are doing currently. Or come May Poland could be added to our red list, who knows, hopefully it won't happen, but like Mike said above if there is any slight risk of quarantine or travel restrictions then Polish teams just wont let them leave Poland.
    4 points
  8. I don’t know how professional speedway can be classed as ‘elite’ given that the sport received nothing from the government whilst other sports that ARE elite did. Speedway appears to be classed as semi professional so should be fighting their corner to start earlier with crowds.
    4 points
  9. No, the new Team would have been new to League racing, but we have lost a Track due to the imposition of rules by those that had previously had no interest in the National League, there only interest up until now was what Overseas rider they could find on a false low average that they could turn into an asset for their own benefit, now they have lost another Track for 2021 and i suspect that another could well follow in 2022, there are ways this could have been achieved other than the route that they have gone down, strict adherance to pay limits would have been one way to achieve this.. and we probably wouldnt have lost another track for 2021, now i suspect the NDL will be nothing more than a glorified second half with one man/woman and his dog watching, but hey its what the BSPL want so it must be right, not.
    3 points
  10. Their Pi££ up is now officially organised, how smug they must all be. The successful removal of the only Promotion that actually promotes must give them all such a feeling of satisfaction. RIP Isle of Wight.
    3 points
  11. A shame... Could they still run some 'open meetings'? One thing that the team on the IOW seems to grasp is that if you need 'X' hundred per week to remain profitable, you don't necessarily need the same 'X' hundred per week... And with such a transient population on a 'holiday island' promoting their 'product' to people who might only be there for seven days or so is vital... Every promoter should promote every meeting like the IOW do, ie just like it is their last... Because one day, for them all, it might be... The IOW team seem to understand this better than the vast majority of all the rest I would suggest.. Best of Luck to everyone down there...
    3 points
  12. ‘ Rubbish product ‘ ? Wow, you are a bitter sole. Youth racing up north via the NJL has been strong for years and judging by the crowds who stay back to watch then they are very happy with it. The BSPL dont pick the teams, the club does and the club is obviously happy to enter under the new rules so I guess we won’t be seeing your unhappy face at Berwick Bullets matches any time soon?
    3 points
  13. And has been shown in the Champions & Europa league where some countries are banning everyone including sportsmen from going into the country, this could still be a problem in the future.
    3 points
  14. That would wash if the foreign rider just came in on a 4.00 average and was on a comparable deal to a Brit but when they are sponsored there is accommodation supplied, workshop facilities a guaranteed wage etc. If the emerging Brits were afforded this level of luxury they could they could focus on racing, fitness and bike prep without the additional stresses of having to earn enough to keep a roof over their heads.
    3 points
  15. Watering down and restricting the best League in the Country which has caused a club to close, will severely affect another standalone club and will cause fans to walk away isn't a good move! Add in the factor of the unbalanced nature of rider standards with more spread out races which will dilute the entertainment value and the potential of producing World class riders then things don't look very good.
    2 points
  16. In addition to Mason Watson, l think Keiran Douglas should be on board. Both very local - the very type of riders the NL is designed to attract to the sport! The suggestion of Greg Blair's name is intriguing (no idea of his average) as Greg is the great-grandson of Danny and Liz Taylor, who created speedway in Berwick, 53 years ago!
    2 points
  17. Let's see how long before col69 manages to find the NL thread...
    2 points
  18. Such a sad day and I hope this isn't Barry and the Warriors lost to the sport
    2 points
  19. I hope so too. Things have been worryingly quiet from the Fen Tigers and Warriors. being the standalone teams who have been most impacted by changes but least informed i fear they will be hurting a little atm. Two contrasting race tracks and promotions but two that the NDL can certainly not afford to upset/lose.
    2 points
  20. Will be plenty more changes / riders following suit i suspect. Watch out for a team building rule change before May 17th
    2 points
  21. All the more reason to increase the 4.00 starting average for new foreign riders. Not a pop at those teams that have taken advantage of this if they can as it's all within the rules. Whilst acknowledging how big a part foreign riders have to play, I think if you're serious about allowing UK riders to progress removing these low averages for foreign riders has to be considered.
    2 points
  22. Wasn't that down to fact Speedway was an "Elite Summer Sport' and those who got offered a grant were classed as 'Winter'?.. Either way, I think the fact it wasn't "free money" was possibly the reason it wasn't pursued. Paying it back might have dissuaded them from going down that particular avenue.. Ironically, a year out for some tracks may have actually been beneficial given we hear so many "lose money" regularly.. And that year out has also, for me, put the standard to where it should have been in relation to its crowd levels a good many years ago. Which must reduce costs going forward.. A 'reset' was long, long, overdue, so maybe this season, with the TV money to add in also, could be a start of something more positive for the sport in the UK?
    2 points
  23. That's the point though isn't it. By giving these riders a low assessed average of 4.00 you can't blame the promoters for going for two assessed foreign riders ahead of say a UK 5.00 and 3.00 who maybe haven't shown signs of improvement. It always seems worth the gamble especially now you might have seen footage of the foreign rider in action and apparently they become an asset of the club rather pay a loan fee. Had those assessed foreign averages been 5.00 then there's some more jeopardy as to whether a newcomer would achieve that level so the likes of Mountain, Greaves, Sarjeant, Kinsley, Smith and Ruddick might have got places. Notwithstanding that there are still places available elsewhere so hopefully they do all get fixed up. But you can see the incentive to go for a new foreign rider on 4.00 over a UK rider which doesn't really fit in with the Rising Star ethos.
    2 points
  24. Hi, I produced the discs with Hugh Vass (stats) and John Somerville (photos). A few years ago there was an issue at work which prevented me from continuing with the discs and I started the website. However, there were some software problems that I couldn't resolve and I got so busy with other things the domain name expired a few years ago. The 1960s disc was just about done but will need tweaking to bring the biographical info up to date. I have checked with John Somerville re the photos and he has very kindly agreed, and I am happy to send out the 1960s document as a PDF to anyone who wants it. If you want to send me a message or email on mattjackson68@btinternet.com I will sort it out. I'll need a couple of days to check the biographies though.
    2 points
  25. Not racing against you and if no restrictions were in place you would have your biggest attendance of the season, the rest of the the league can embrace that and enjoy it,you really need to stop sucking lemons your very bitter
    2 points
  26. They started with 2 surprises that no one saw coming so would be excellent for the last one to be another one. It makes you wonder why the BSPA were so against them joining for the past couple of seasons. They have been a breath of fresh air and excitement to British season for, hopefully, the new season. Some of the more established promotions could learn a thing or two from the Plymouth promotion.
    2 points
  27. Great news that we are going full on in the NL full rather than just the cup competition and I appreciate we need to balance the team with the number of local untried youngsters in there but Max Clegg should not be in there. Nothing against the lad but he’s been riding as a professional for about nine years, he was in the Elite league draft system in 2014 and he is way too good for the NL. Add the fact that the pressure of doing the previous championship match and then being expected to clean up doing another 5 rides afterwards is just too much to put on him. This is supposed to be a development division , he isn’t going to learn anything that he doesn’t already know. Yes, he will be a big scoring number 1 but isn’t the point of the exercise to give new youngsters opportunities ? There are bound to be clashes of fixtures away from home so he will miss meetings anyway and there won’t be many 10-11 point averaged guests knocking about! I know we need a competitive team but there’s room there to bring in two less experienced 5-6 pointers who , with the reduced standard, will become the next generation of heat leaders.The likes of Josh Embleton will double his average based on that so let’s look around at the least experienced lads out there. Id throw in the name of the likes of Greg Blair who is on the comeback. Seen him at Redcar in 2020 and he’s already on the pace, he’s experienced enough and has been unlucky with injuries and don't think he’s actually ever had a full season under his belt . He’ll score points and be entertaining to watch and he’d be an ideal rider to step up into the diamonds side if required!
    2 points
  28. Yep and it's been fantastic to watch Sam and Harry McGurk, Archie Freeman , Danny smith ,Jordan Palin , Leon Flint, Kyle Bickley, Luke Harrison and many others come through from 125 to 500 then into league racing. Best format tell me if there's a better one .
    1 point
  29. Well there's never been a better chance of that happening Steve.
    1 point
  30. Probably save a good few quid in expenses too not having to get to the IOW... Especially for those 'northern tracks' that have coincidentally decided to run an NDL team this year...
    1 point
  31. Excellent intelligent Promotion removed check, ghost teams closed down check. NL and MDL on its knees check. Lower leagues almost ruined so fans forced to view higher league speedway....mission accomplished
    1 point
  32. What’s not to enjoy? The only league to allow proper youth race on 125 machines and now to include 250’s. As for riders locality doesn’t that actually make sense at this level ? Keeps costs down and local interest up !
    1 point
  33. The type of team a club puts out, top heavy or balanced, is down to the participating clubs the rule allows it anyway they chose. I would have thought the clubs sensible enough to select riders on skill rather than just because they have a bike ! You appear to change your stance from one post to another. Good luck to only going to ‘ well balanced meetings ‘ .
    1 point
  34. For the first time ever I can honestly say that I am not too bothered where we finish in the league this season. Sure it would be great to be successful in our first championship season, but I just want to see some good racing with a Poole team that tries hard and displays that "Pirate Pride". I have only been supporting the Pirates since 2008 after my local team (Oxford) folded in 2007 and living in Buckinghamshire (100 miles each way) could only get down a few times every year. However, just before Christmas I took the plunge and moved to Poole! So now I am looking forward to being able to walk to every home meeting!
    1 point
  35. Should use the old elite League fast track format, keeps HL's like Clegg, Flint & Bickley away from 3.00 reserves!
    1 point
  36. Lives on IOW but stranger things have happened in speedway
    1 point
  37. Now that the BSPL have ruined the National League and existing MSDL. What has happened to the plans for the savior bringing Premiership Junior League? After all ghost teams were forced out and the great fanfare announcement there has been nothing since. Surely the BSPL haven't gone back on thier word?
    1 point
  38. They were supposed to be having an online meeting late this week so maybe we’ll hear something more concrete next week.
    1 point
  39. Even if the "occupied territory" north of the Tweed was rightfully restored to Scotland, Shielfield Park -- in Tweedmouth -- would remain in England.
    1 point
  40. He was assessed as a 2.00 rider but due to having ridden 6 or 7 meetings for Ipswich in 2018, his average would soon rise, as it did, to just over 5. He then moved, mainly, to ride at no2, riding with his own no1 3 times & ending the season with around a 3.6 average.
    1 point
  41. With WJK in charge, maybe another war is being planned and they will try and take Berwick back? "FREEDOMMMMMM!!!" Get the muskets out lads just in case...
    1 point
  42. 1 point
  43. That's great, Matt. I'd love a copy please. I'll message you.
    1 point
  44. The thing is, it all depends on how far riders want to go. I am under no doubt that quite a few young Brits over the years have been happy to settle for the doubling up in the UK and not push too hard abroad. Which is absolutely fine if they are happy racing regular and earning good money. The likes of Allen, Stead, Kennett etc ... IMO they could of gone a lot further than they did but I think they were pretty happy with what they had.
    1 point
  45. He can't even stay on a sledge
    1 point
  46. If the rule in England is 50% of the stadium capacity up to 1000 max, then WJK will allow 51% of the stadium capacity, up to 1001 max... Fan Dabi Double Dozi.....
    1 point
  47. If we were to keep the current 1 to 7 (which is never going to happen) I would be disappointed if the Lions weren't play off finalists. Bates needs to grow up and race but not chase lost causes as he ends up getting injured.As has been pointed out by another poster, he is fifth in the team averages and may be difficult to cover if we had to use R/R. Should either or both of the twins kick on at reserve, I don't see us dropping anything at home. If they can match their opposite numbers away, we really are in business. Let's not get too picky though eh? As long as we get to smell some methanol, we'll take whatever comes!
    1 point
  48. Kemp IS another that is a big deal. He still upped his average with Sheffield. you clearly have never seen him ride. One of the most natural talents on a bike I’ve ever seen at 15.
    1 point
  49. I thought the official line was the timescale could extend but in no circumstances would they shorten (unfortunately)
    1 point
  50. Surely if the standard is being reduced, the admission price should reflect this.
    1 point
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