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keep it simple - no need for change - 3, 2, 1, 0 is best

Agree, there is a general entertainment point of view.It’s the structure of the sport,which IMO is struggling to attract new fans.It’s just not credible,and it’s mainly diehards which are keeping it afloat.

Great to see Doyle remain loyal to Britsh Speedway. He's more of a Brit than Bewley, Lambert and Woffinden.

I had a great day at the WSRA annual Norwich lunch today. Met up with some old friends, including Ove Fundin, Bert Harkins, Trevor Hedge, Tony Hurren (Hawkeye) and Terry Ripo (former Hackney and Mildenhall announcer). Other illustrious names at the lunch included Cyril Crane, Richard Greer, James Easter, Billy Bales, Ray Bales, Rob Hollingworth, Dingle Brown, Gavin Hedge, Dave Gagen, Graham Miles, Ollie Allen, Dave Allen and the great, the one and only, Buzz Burrows. Good food, good company and, best of all, I won first prize in the raffle!

Steve Worrall over Ellis or Kerr any day

Happy with that Does it mean Paul and Matty flipflopping between 1.and 5, or just 5? Hopefully there is a genuine #1 to come

Yeah I don't think Darcy's son is walking yet

Id wager more money on the flying circus lasting longer.

I actually think from a general 'entertainment' point of view with the level of riders being so similar it is actually worth watching.. I watched lots of domestic Speedway on TV and three 'live' and there was plenty to keep you interested.. Unfortunately it is clear that these riders cannot make one league pay therefore it all becomes a bit contrived and nonsensical, which obviously then takes more than a fair bit away from the event itself.. If only they could get the racing level within a proper team sport structure.. Unfortunately, until they do the sport will continue to underperform against its undoubted potential..

Ulrich could have got there by the end of the season

Sorry I Will rephrase that,the standard is higher but it’s the same riders beating each other.There are certainly no superstar 10 pt average riders even though it is a weakened League.

Lions 2019 Championship Shield Winners Championship League Winners Pirates 2021 Championship KO Cup Winners Championship League Winners I regularly attend both tracks, as well others, with Leicester being my nearest and I support Poole. The amount of success that both club's av achieved with both doing the double, either side of lockdown, is a remarkable achievement. In fact Lions cud've done the treble if it wasn't for avin to track an under strength side at Eastbourne in the KO Cup. I'd like to wish all at both clubs continued success, but don't mention the Scottish club! .....was a fine ride by Ellis Perks!

At least if you did sign Basso, he won't be visiting Poole as he'll be riding in Denmark.

dont be so sure be prepared to be surprized.

Because the other 6 teams wouldn’t share the TV money

Nah, I go private!

Have you had something you shouldn’t have had this morning?

Pirate walks in to a Scottish bar....'Mine's a Double please!' 

I would guess Morris Mountain Howarth Rowe Richie Thompson Thompson

It’s really not complicated. Scott Courtney runs Berwick Jamie Courtney will run Oxford harris has signed for Berwick and has agreed to ride for Oxford when they were planning to run in the premiership Oxford will be championship so Harris will no longer be in the team as he already signed for Berwick

He was an almost complete let down. A couple of superb meetings (one at Lynn) aside to say he was mediocre would be kind He can be brilliant when all is well but appears clueless as to what changes to make when things are not going so well. Quite baffling for a rider of his experience

For most tracks in the UK regular practice sessions and or coaching events are nigh on impossible Only a handful have few if any restrictions of use My local track for example (Ipswich) are limited not only by landlord expectations but also local authority restrictions The stadium is only allowed to hold a maximum number of events each year *can't recall the exact number but it may well be less than 1 a week on average There is then a restriction of no more than 2 events in any 8 day period as well as limitations as to what times and for how long the event takes place Get over any of that and you then have the fact that the landlord would want in excess of £3000 to open the doors

Good suggestion though as he would fit within our age bracket lol.

Poole to move back into the Premiership. Jack Holder to Poole Jason Doyle to Sheffield.

noooooooo!

Gary may rarely gets it wrong but who knows

Glasgow already charge £25 for some grandstand seats.

Promoters egos ?

I think there will be more than six clubs in the top flight next season and I'll await the rabbits out of hats they produce each AGM.......

Southampton: Side by side georeferenced maps viewer - Map images - National Library of Scotland (nls.uk)

Is that National or Nora Development League

Crystal Palace : https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=51.42076&lon=-0.07312&layers=193&b=1 Harringay : https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=51.57739&lon=-0.09892&layers=193&right=ESRIWorld West Ham : https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=51.51585&lon=0.03426&layers=193&right=ESRIWorld Dagenham maybe ? : https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=51.53013&lon=0.13658&layers=193&right=ESRIWorld

Pretty much every European rider calls it England. I remember Stefan edberg getting roundly boo'd in a post match interview for saying he was glad to be back in England after he'd signed for us ha

Been scrapped in Championship. Premiership are keeping it.

So if there were more 'domestic' riders then this would save speedway? Isn't the fact that no-one comes anymore and/or most stadiums are under threat of closure the most pressing problem???????????

Poole's prices haven't increased for 4 seasons. Its just crazy to increase admission prices just to overpay riders. - ask Eastbourne!!

I dont think the Premiership is 'far better', I never said I did. What I did say is that apart from the number of teams ie the lack of variety in the 'top' league there is very little difference because the riders are essentially the same, and both leagues have good tracks and crap ones. Both leagues are overpriced, that's why I very rarely go any more. I expect the Premiership is a bit more expensive as the riders get paid a bit more. Its been suggested on another thread that the Prem will remain at six clubs because they don't want to share the TV money with anyone else and that's very disappointing.

I know that but I’m just summarising about the “interest” in reading the Oxford thread!

I think Jack Thomas would be a good acquisition for Poole in 2022.

A quick calculation would suggest 5.92 http://www.gbspeedway.com/2021/ridercareer.php?mc1=st&mc2=a&mc3=av&mc4=x&name=Tom Brennan Edit: I think Shield fixtures in 2019 counted, so make that 6.02

I often look through maps online to try and work out where old stadiums were. Never found this site before, so very interesting for me. Bristol: Explore georeferenced maps - Map images - National Library of Scotland (nls.uk) New Cross: Explore georeferenced maps - Map images - National Library of Scotland (nls.uk) Reading: Explore georeferenced maps - Map images - National Library of Scotland (nls.uk)

Pirate walks in to a Scottish bar....'Mine's a Double please!'

So you know the 1-7 with 100% certainty then Geoff....

they will be stonger for sure

Think stewart will pull a few surprises. That team is decent but not strong enough for a title challenge but that's just my opinion.

When it came to the crunch in the semis against us Pirates it was the Lions lower end that just cudn't mix it. Mountain or Hume alongside one of the twins would've been the way to go. My mates are Lions fans and they were very surprised, and so was I, when Mountain was released and he performed very well despite the teams he rode for ending up at the bottom of their respective leagues.

Leicester is my local track so looking forward to Pirates and Lions doing battle again in 2022 no matter who rides for who. But thank you and other clubs for over looking Danyon Hume in 2021 as he proved to be a key rider for us in our double winning season Here's to 2022

Welcome to speedway, moaning is what the fans do best.

Better open one up in the NDL, just in case.

Hope that everything goes well Brian. We don't want to lose any more Tracks.