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Whilst central park seems gone for now, it does seem like there is a distinct possibility of retaining a National League side running out of Iwade. Hopefully if the venture comes off it gets the support to make the club viable and potentially keep the door open to a central park return in the higher leagues in the future.

Henry Atkins has signed as a full asset for Plymouth.

If we can reach agreement with our landlords at Rye House our intention, BSPL permitting, would be to run NDL. If the agreement is reached quickly enough and the weather allows the work to complete in time to meet the BSPL deadline we could aim for 2022. This is rather unlikely but you never know. With us, Oxford, Eastbourne and maybe Iwade all possibly running NDL sides in 2023 the situation could well be far less bleak in 18 months.

heard good news that there’s a offer in for the stadium to be bought and kept as a speedway venue

Spencer Timmo (son of Rick) born in Oxford but returned to New Zealand before re-locating back to these shores. Now runs a second hand car showroom in Sandford-on-Thames. Nice bloke I have to add!

He's both

Christ, this thread is an eye opener. Some dinosaurs still kicking about it would appear.

I think there may be at least one other possibly two more NDL teams in addition to Northside based on various rumours. Two existing Clubs running NDL too. Be great news if so after NDL looked dead a year ago.

Yet they only let them ride in one other league in fear of them getting injured,.Go figure .

SGB PREMIERSHIP RIDERS’ POINTS 2021 (Includes Guest Rides & Tactical Rides) Dan Bewley 240 Daniel King 228 Sam Masters 206 Jack Holder 204 Adam Ellis 203 Chris Harris 194 Michael Palm Toft 182 Hans N Andersen 171 Ryan Douglas 171 Brady Kurtz 169 Scott Nicholls 165 Luke Becker 165 Nick Morris 161 Richard Lawson 158 Thomas Jorgensen 149 Craig Cook 139 Steven Worrall 136 Rory Schlein 134 Lewis Kerr 133 Bjarne Pedersen 125 Kyle Howarth 122 Charles Wright 118 Broc Nicol 109 Troy Batchelor 107 Ulrich Østergaard 102 Jye Etheridge 96 Josh Pickering 96 Jake Allen 94 Anders Rowe 92 Tom Brennan 90 Paul Starke 90 Erik Riss 87 Richie Worrall 75 Drew Kemp 72 Jason Crump 63 Connor Mountain 58 Leon Flint 50 Benjamin Barker 49 Kasper Andersen 46 Ricky Wells 46 Cameron Heeps 45 Jordan Palin 39 Justin Sedgmen 38 Danyon Hume 37 James Wright 33 Stefan Nielsen 30 Tyron Proctor 16 Simon Lambert 13 Josh Bates 10 Jack Thomas 9 Lewis Bridger 7 Tom Bacon 7 Nikolaj Busk Jakobsen 6 Ryan Kinsley 5 Kyle Bickley 3 Jordan Stewart 2 Aaron Summers 2 Dan Thompson 2 Alfie Bowtell 0 Nathan Greaves 0 Jordan Jenkins 0 Theo Pijper 0 Jack Smith 0 SGB CHAMPIONSHIP RIDERS’ POINTS 2021 (Includes Guest Rides & Tactical Rides) Steven Worrall 282 Daniel King 258 Sam Masters 254 Scott Nicholls 243 Jake Allen 217 Chris Harris 215 Leon Flint 214 Kyle Howarth 206 Bjarne Pedersen 205 Craig Cook 201 Josh Pickering 201 Ryan Douglas 197 Charles Wright 196 Nick Morris 177 Ricky Wells 164 Erik Riss 163 Rory Schlein 163 Paul Starke 163 Michael Palm Toft 161 Richie Worrall 161 James Wright 161 Benjamin Barker 157 Aaron Summers 155 Broc Nicol 150 Thomas Jorgensen 148 Simon Lambert 144 Troy Batchelor 139 Sam Jensen 138 Alfie Bowtell 135 Dany Gappmaier 134 Kye Thomson 132 Hans N Andersen 130 Connor Mountain 127 Michele Castagna 124 Danyon Hume 124 Jason Crump 123 Theo Pijper 118 Max Clegg 117 Ashley Morris 112 Jack Thomas 109 Dan Thompson 108 Kasper Andersen 103 Nikolaj Busk Jakobsen 103 Jye Etheridge 102 Jordan Palin 101 Adam Ellis 100 Zach Cook 97 Ulrich Østergaard 96 Cameron Heeps 95 Tero Aarnio 94 James Sarjeant 93 Ben Cook 92 Stefan Nielsen 92 Adam Roynon 90 Josh MacDonald 87 Kyle Bickley 82 Richard Lawson 82 Jordan Jenkins 81 Ben Morley 81 Dillon Ruml 79 Zaine Kennedy 78 Dan Gilkes 76 James Shanes 76 Zane Keleher 75 Justin Sedgmen 75 Joe Thompson 73 Connor Bailey 71 Anders Rowe 67 Tom Brennan 62 Drew Kemp 62 Lewis Kerr 61 Matthew Wethers 59 William Lawson 58 Nathan Greaves 55 Benjamin Basso 40 Valentin Grobauer 36 Jake Mulford 32 Jason Edwards 29 Marcin Nowak 27 Josh Auty 17 Tom Bacon 15 Tyron Proctor 14 Paul Hurry 11 Jack Smith 8 Steven Goret 8 Jordan Stewart 6 Josh Bates 5 Luke Crang 5 Kyle Newman 5 Joe Lawlor 4 Jack Parkinson-Blackburn 4 Greg Blair 3 Archie Freeman 3 Jake Knight 3 Connor Coles 2 Ryan Kinsley 1 Alex Spooner 1 Tom Woolley 1 Joe Alcock 0 Daniel Phillips 0 Luke Ruddick 0 Ryan Terry-Daley 0 NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE RIDERS’ POINTS 2021 (Includes Guest Rides) Kyle Bickley 130 Dan Thompson 117 Dan Gilkes 103 Jordan Jenkins 98 Joe Thompson 98 Connor Coles 93 Daniel Phillips 91 Greg Blair 87 Harry McGurk 85 Jason Edwards 84 Tom Woolley 78 Leon Flint 77 Jack Parkinson-Blackburn 73 Jake Mulford 70 Sam Hagon 69 Tom Spencer 65 Ryan Kinsley 64 Jack Smith 63 Sam Bebee 58 Nathan Greaves 56 Luke Ruddick 52 George Rothery 48 Alex Spooner 48 Kieran Douglas 47 Elliot Kelly 45 Mason Watson 44 Jacob Clouting 43 Sam McGurk 42 Ben Trigger 42 Paul Bowen 41 Mickie Simpson 38 Luke Crang 35 Ben Rathbone 34 Nathan Ablitt 33 Gregor Millar 32 Benji Compton 28 Ryan MacDonald 26 Joe Lawlor 25 Ryan Terry-Daley 25 Lewis Millar 23 Ben Morley 23 Archie Freeman 21 Sam Woolley 19 William Lawson 18 Vinnie Foord 17 Josh Warren 17 Luke Muff 16 Kai Ward 16 Ben Woodhull 14 Sheldon Davies 9 Luke Harris 7 Danno Verge 7 Nick Laurence 2 Tim Colley 1 Gavin Parr 1 Jamie Sealey 1 Kelsey Dugard 0 MIDLAND & SOUTHERN DEVELOPMENT LEAGUE RIDERS' POINTS 2021 Ben Trigger 55 Sam Woolley 50 Jacob Fellows 38 Bailey Fellows 29 Josh Warren 20 Tim Colley 17 Nick Laurence 9 James Chattin 8 Luke Muff 8 Eli Meadows 8 Kai Ward 8 Ryan Ashcroft 5 Stephen Whitehouse 5 Ben Phillips 4 Kyran Lyden 3 Jamie Sealey 3 Francesca Kirtley-Paine (aka Cesca Wright) 0 William Richardson 0 NORTHERN JUNIOR LEAGUE RIDERS' POINTS 2021 I've removed the riders points, because the league co-ordinator has changed the results of a number of meetings from those that the referees declared on the SCB website, and it's all got a bit confusing. Compiled by Mike Moseley.

50k annual rent and 20 meetings is draconian and also kills off any thoughts of NDL in my opinion. As I see it if CL is 10 teams and you have 9 home and 9 away plus KOC and a few fillers, you'd have to run as many as 6 home meetings as "fillers" to reach the 20 fixtures so, they would be loss making meetings right off. If you don't run 20 fixtures you have to pay more rent per fixture to pay the 50k There is very little land available at right price in the right areas in Birmingham / Greater Birmingham, and The Black Country is the same, look at Cradley issues trying to find land in Dudley and Sandwell Boroughs. The big brown field sites like Longbridge have been used for residential and commercial development. The NEC / Airport area where nosie would be less of any issue is pretty much full up. The City Council and Regional elected Mayor are useless. As long as Wolves can hang on to Monmore or Coventry can reclaim Brandon, it's a very sobering outlook elsewhere in the area. There is another problem there though as any land that's encroaching on their territory so only robs Peter to pay Paul. Grim times so we all have to pray that we can keep PB for as long as possible.

Tbf the teams are prob already signed, just not announced!

The ‘ masses ‘ won’t believe you as they know best. Very few outside the ‘inner circles’ of a speedway club have any understanding of the finances involved as many a post on here shows . Championship Riders on a £100 plus a point ? Vans , houses, bikes, mechanics, given free ? never mind flights paid for. Those clubs still getting involved in those things are the ones most often on the endangered list.

Both long associated with King's Lynn but who was the better rider? Terry achieved a high average for many seasons whereas Malcom was a bit up and down until his move to Poole in 1975. Strangely Terry only made one World Individual Final (however qualifying from the British Final was no mean feat during the seventies) whereas Malcom made three appearances. Terry won the one World Pairs and a couple of World Cups whereas Malcolm's record is exceptional on that front (three pairs and four team). Perhaps Terry was more team orientated and too laid back for the big occasion? Malcolm was more ruthless. Terry may well have achieved more on the international stage but his career spanned the period that English riders were making names for themselves having graduated from the old Division Two and perhaps he was pushed out of the limelight? I guess that it's fair to say that Malcolm was the better all round motorcyclist. As captains of their respective clubs (King's Lynn and Poole) team honours were a bit short on the ground. Terry led 'Stars' to a KO Cup and ILKO Cup triumph whereas Malcom as a 'Pirate' won nothing...his team successes were achieved early in his career when riding for West Ham.

Maybe Plymouth broke the contract.

There posting about Glasgow on there.

Fat better than having multiple posts all stemming from the same thing, eh?

Because Morris is better now.

is there not a poole 2022 thread

Zzzz come back when got something original to say

Because the thread is from 23 January 2020 maybe? So what if it takes 2 years or 3 years to reopen Rye House, as long as someone is trying to reopen Rye House.

Maybe 'pm' NSSG on here and they'll point you in the right direction.

When you put it like that...

Kemp was born in Germany

Depends what average Kemp is on and what we have left for the last rider.

A deal was on the table for him obviously travel is a bit of an issue. Wish him all the best him and dad are great guys.

Nikki Glanz was born in Swindon. Jason Crump born in Bristol. I believe Mark Loram was born in Malta

It really doesn't. Point was was keeping average low, then in meetings where didn't count towards his average, scores much better. Which you yourself pointed out as well

I seem to remember reading that he suffered a heart attack when trying to retrieve personal items from his burning house?

Jason Edwards, Nathan Ablitt, Jake Mulford

I quite liked Neil. He was one of my favourites at Plough Lane at the time. Never going to be a world beater, but good second string. Nice sideburns, i see to remember. Also liked young Aussie Rob Jones. But more for his hair than anything else No, he was also promising for a while In fact, looking back, maybe that was our biggest problem, that we had too many riders who looked promising, but never really made it any better than that Graeme Stapleton another. Bert Harkins ?

He struggled at a couple of tracks but averaged over 6.5 in the playoff meetings so think you are being a bit unfair.

I wasn't, but knw of Peter as well The rider i was thinking of is Noah Moos from Denmark. Saw him riding in Ludwigslust a few years back

Shane Parker, Travis McGowan and Jamie Smith…. Then more recently when Somerset signed Rory Schlein, was one of the reasons I stopped going. Edit - when we turned a championship winning side into a 2nd placed side on the verge of the start of the season when we signed Henning Loof as an injury replacement.

We've got 1 !! Unless you've heard something different ?.. Steve pate iz the manager

I think he will be hot property in all premiership teams in ‘22, strange season at the foxhole this year,doesn’t reflect his top scoring for championship side,one of the low average riders who have beaten every number 1 more than once ,spectators eyes only see results

Can we not have a reduction for winning the league?

The powers that be have banned all 'defunct' clubs from competing in league racing.

just a bit over 42 ;~}

Are you thinking of Peter Clement (Denmark).?

I'd prefer to remember one of the fastest riders I've ever seen, and he's battles with Nicki Pedersen at Arlington are still some of the most amazing races I've seen there. Would hate to see him have another serious injury.

Thing is your lack of knowledge is shown here agreed there is no training school however Wolverhampton constantly run competitive second half's with all British lads riding and give track time at every meeting to the British 250 champion . Unfortunately lots of teams are made up of foreign riders due to the lack of British based riders currently at premier league standard .

Yessssssssss

Where the world has gone crazy is that, not only can we not laugh at each other - WE HAVE LOST THE ABILITY TO LAUGH AT OURSELVES! Part of being British is being able to take the piss out of each other - and ourselves.

Congreves average will make a massive difference as 6ish for a 3rd heat leader makes the team look a bit weak but 8ish for another genuine big hitter with a solid engine room and constant strong reserve would make this a very dangerous side.

So be it, it should improve them and subsequently aid British speedway moving forward

Mr H i will be going to Cowley on a regular basis give it a go anyway hope things are good with you mate.

For the first time in 14 years you can now add Nicholls as Oxfords first rider

Why isn’t calling an Australian and Aussie racist? Why is that deemed ok yet calling a person from Pakistan the P word is racist try explaining that one to a young child ? And I agree with what you say why wait until now to say anything in the cricketers case on a different not Conservative mp who’s accused Boirs dad of slapping her backside in 2003 why wait till now to say something? I’m not condoning any racist or sexual abuse in the slightest but why wait to speak out .

Thought I'd start this thread because I couldn't see one started... hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes by starting this! Feel free to add riders and averages as and when there announced cheers everyone.