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But to convince one to come over here for half a season ain't easy. If they don't have everything set up in the uk, they need to get 2 more bikes, engines to suit, van, mechanic, somewhere to stay etc. A complete new set up. which they can't use anywhere else during the season. Riding the the UK is a big commitment ££ for the first time for the rider. But a Dane, Czech, or German lad can easily pick up extra meetings in Europe using the same kit they have at the moment. That's the biggest issue before you even start getting into Visas etc4 points
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Right up north?! Manchester isn’t right up north… Newcastle northwards is right up north! you say holding it at a neutral venue wouldn’t attract many locals… there was never a problem with crowds when Peterborough have held 4TT’s at their track… Poole will have mainly locals filling up their stadium but it’s still a poor choice when you consider the fans from the real north… Edinburgh, Berwick, Glasgow, Redcar etc… teams that have fans that normally come out in good amounts for the tournaments!4 points
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You’ve got a national speedway stadium which is slap bang in the middle of the country. Bosh!!!!!!!!! Job done , all supporters don’t have as far to travel and invest the gate monies or profits back into British speedway. not rocket science is it4 points
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If Glasgow didn't host it their wouldn't be one!!! It's put on by the promotion at their cost. The plrc is supposed to be a "shared event" put on with aim supporters of all clubs being able to attend and bspl takes up the slack and the costs. Surely even you can see the difference!!! And in what world is Scunthorpe northern?!?!3 points
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Geography not yer strong point . From Glasgow or Edinburgh to Poole check out what is slap bang in the middle. Main motorway travel and decent rail links. You need to get out more3 points
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It needs a lot of co-operation between promoters in the BSPL but it doesn’t generally happen does it which is why we still have big problems. We need the three leagues to work together for the good of U.K. speedway but the facts shows that doesn’t happen, they cannot even have the same rules on how they operate or run competitions, until they start to work together Poland will be allowed to dictate things. For British riders to benefit from ACU allocations, ride for the GB team, ride in the British Championships, SON, SEC etc they should be required to ride in the U.K. and hold British Licences. I have absolutely no problem with British riders riding in Poland, Sweden or Elsewhere but they do need to ride in the U.K. if they want the benefits above.3 points
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People can't afford to travel. You won't attract travelling fans who are not already aware of the sport (only die hards will travel a distance to, e.g. Poole, Belle Vue or Glasgow) so a stream is an additional source of publicity, as well as potential income. As mentioned elsewhere, it can be limited in terms of geography - thus the hosting track can focus on more localised marketing.2 points
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He is certainly giving the impression of late that his best years are behind him. Still, you can’t fault his record and it may be many years before we have another 3-time world champion.2 points
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Only been to 4 aways this year and everytime the journey home turned into a nightmare, with petrol prices etc it certainly makes you wonder if it's worth it. Monmore Green is only up the road for me, don't think I'd travel great distances for home meetings2 points
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When I used to go to White City on a Wednesday/Tuesday night travelling from Oxford was always a pleasure driving back along the M40 after the meeting. Visits to Wolves/Cradley was never an issue and trips to Eastbourne meant an evening walking along the prom after the meeting. Wouldn't wish to take those sort of journeys now with the increase in traffic however!2 points
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Hasn't someone clever with too much time on their hands worked out the the geographical centre of Great Britain (England, Scotland & Wales) is Blackburn. Which, incidentally apparently has the same number of holes as the Poole track Money is money right. It doesn't matter where it comes from. What would you prefer to receive, £20,000 from 1,000 spectators paying £20 at the gate or £30,000 from 3,000 people paying £10 for the live stream? The answer is both because we're all greedy capitalists. The truth is spectators are costly. From a promoter perspective you'd save quite a bit of money by excluding any attendees and only making the event available via subscription, however dystopian that might sound. Luckily there's a couple of factors stopping that from happening, the impact on the local economy from attendees, in particular travelling supporters and event atmosphere. An easy conclusion from watching pandemic events behind closed doors is that spectators should actually be paid to attend as they clearly enhance the TV product, until someone develops a digital crowd experience to rival it. That's the profit driven glimpse of the future. Virtual Reality viewing where everyone stays at home but experience being in the crowd with other viewers you can interact with. You'll get constant pop up reminders to place a bet or order junk food via deliveroo, unless you've paid a premium subscription to avoid adverts. There'd only need to be one track and maybe only 14 riders with both digitally altered to represent different stadiums and competitors. Hell why not just do the whole event digitally generated by computer programme, with 14 Chris Harris' guesting. Grim.2 points
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To be fair, Sweden and Denmark have a different business model base on much fewer fixtures, so require fewer dates. when all is said and done, the Poles haven't said you can only ride in Poland, and therefore the UK is competing against Denmark and Sweden, not Poland. The UK needs to be an attractive place to ride speedway if you want the best riders. If you ask the current riders what the UK has going for it, you'll find the responses are normally: plus points: Lots of meetings No Squads Variation of tracks UK income Minus points: Less money extra costs, equipment, bikes, mechanics etc Poor tracks (quality of preparation) More paperwork If you want to attract the better riders, work on the Minus points, but not all riders want extra meetings and travel. Of the three GP riders over here now, they all have their reasons for choosing the UK over essentially Sweden. Many Danes have to ride Denmark to satisfy sponsors. What they don't seem to understand is we are not competing with Poland. If we want better riders we are competing with Sweden, or Denmark2 points
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Okay for Glasgow to hold the GB test match though! No thought for Oxford, Poole, Plymouth fans there that might want to go. Seems a bit hypocritical to me for Glasgow fans to moan about it. Although if it had to go up north at a Championship club then I would say Scunthorpe or Redcar.2 points
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Just don't understand why we have a National Speedway Stadium if we don't use it for National Speedway Events. What's the point? It's like playing the FA Cup final at different club grounds every year just for hoots2 points
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Tbh with team kevlars it feels a bit like that anyway lol Yes some riders' styles you can pick out but not all, especially away riders!2 points
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I am keeping very well thank you but my 4 wheels these days is a mobility scooter as I no longer have a car. Even if I did I dont think I would bother though. Sad but I couldn't cope with all the hanging around these days.2 points
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Not a dig i promise but why hold it at Poole surely limits the numbers that can attend as its so far away from the majority of other clubs2 points
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Current table- all ridden 9 matches 1 Lublin 19 points 2 Gorzow 14 3 Leszno 12 4 Czestochowa 10 5 Torun 9 6 Grudziadz 9 7 Wroclaw 7 8 Ostrow 01 point
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Never mind all the rules and regulations. What we need is some word from the Stars management, about who is going to replace Niels and Jack.1 point
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Are we seeing the next polish sensation in Oskar paluch ?1 point
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1st bend bunching for me we beg to differ lol1 point
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White unlucky to been excluded there for me Krosno deserved the bonus point in the end1 point
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Instantly knocked out Miedzinski horror landing on his head hopefully nothing too serious1 point
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World Cups and test matches aren’t compatible to an event where fans would travel to support their (predominantly northern based) team either.1 point
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Nothing stops the UK making a similar rule to the Poles. Maybe we should have a rule that says if you ride in the UK you can't ride anywhere else? Why can't the Poles do what is best for them? Why should they prop up the joke that is UK speedway?1 point
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There is a big difference betweenNDL and Championship level.Most NDL Teams have experienced No1 the rest are either up and coming or been there before and never made it.1 point
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A Berwick home him sees them firmly stay at the top of the NDL, but Mildenhall pushed them all the way, in fact with just a couple of races to go all results were still possible. Kyle Bickley is indeed an enigma, that sees him ride so well at NDL level yet struggles at Championship.1 point
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His problem is when there is 3 other riders in the race of the same standard or better.1 point
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You need to persuade the Championship promoters that they need to promote weaker teams, they are sitting pretty!1 point
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I think Glasgow are looking pretty strong throughout, there will always be ups and downs with the top 4 but they are a pretty strong unit. The tail I think will look after itself. You will probably have one of them struggling in the main body of the team, but will always have two strong reserves to counter that, so they can cover. If any one of those three goes into the main body and steps up, then you look a VERY strong team. It's a lot of pressure on Tom Brennan, but that's how you find out how good you are and so far he's going the right way. the engine room terrifies every other team, because I don't know any rider who wants to go up against Ulle and Basso. Neither of them know where they'll be riding on the track so the opposition will always be wary Glasgow, Poole and Leicester are the stand out teams for me. Poole's top 3 have to perform every week as their tail is longer, Leicester and Glasgow are pretty even strength for me. It's going to be fun watching1 point
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Again it never bothered me as I regarded it as a full night out and was in no hurry to get back home (I only lived round the corner) Used to groan when Frank Ebdon was on the button as one never had time to digest and discuss the previous/forthcoming race action!1 point
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Strange one ain’t it? He clearly can do it though which is frustrating!1 point
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Why does age have anything to do with it? If you are good enough, then it doesn’t matter how old or young you are. I never understand this obsession with people wanting “young riders” all the time. Kolodziej is currently only 2nd in the Polish averages to Zmarzlik and is actually looking like he’s better than ever.1 point
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Surely the most beneficial thing to do would be copy what Edinburgh do and only allow fans who are so many miles away from the stadium to buy the stream?1 point
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Really enjoyable meeting Mildenhall deserved their point some good young riders coming through1 point
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Perhaps the home team could race in white suits and the away team in black suits. They could all be named “Stig”, no one would care who’s who and one rider could cover for several team mates on both sides. Rider shortage resolved over night!1 point
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Think the kid and his family are a bit more dignified than that as has George Congreve been... and fair play to them as well... the problem is much more complex and won't be resolved by swapping out a couple of reserves... Regards THJ1 point
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A cold October/ November midweek night in front of 2 men and their dug no doubt1 point
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Speaking as a neutral; some of the racing last nite was brilliant, the likes of Douglas, Allen, Worrall, Lawson & King (late on) gave terrific entertainment, loved it. A meeting where you could've dragged non-fans 'kicking & screaming' (!) to watch and they would've said "that was great, I can understand why you enjoy speedway". Good stuff ....1 point
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1: 57, 2: 57.67, 3: 57.24, 4: 57.38, 5: 58.11, 6: 58.36, 7: 58.66, 8: 58.93, 9: 58.75, 10: 59.01, 11: 58.44, 12: 59.35, 13: 58.43, 14: 59.58, 15: 58.671 point
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With Glasgow guaranteed a play-off spot, there's no reason why they can't experiment with the riding order. Got nothing to lose!1 point
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The structure used to be there but the short sighted promotors ditched it. I well remember the national League running with no guests they were banned. My team Ipswich suffered Dave Norris was out injured and it cost us the chance of the league title. However in every sport injury & luck plays a part. You may disagree and think doubling up & the guest fest is ok but for every one Trees who accepts it there are 1000s who don't. I want to see this sport become successful I want to see it survive & I want to support it again. However in its current guise it does nothing for me and thousands like me.1 point
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I have never read such crap come out of a keyboard warrior as I have reading all these comments. You are all just total nasty people. Nothing Newcastle speedway does is good enough for anyone on this forum. They could be the best but they would still not be good enough for you all. If your not slagging the track it’s the management or it’s the riders or it’s the day they ride and even the volunteer staff have been called. Just pure nastiness. It’s not even freedom of speech or entitled to your opinion chat it’s just pure slagging then off for the fun of it Well I’ve had my rant and I’m sure I’ll get nasty comments back but as you all say I’m entitled to my opinion and that’s mine1 point
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As speedway is primarily run on shale tracks running indoors is not an option, dust being the main issue, it covers everything! The clean up costs would be phenomenal at any scale. If you have been to Cardiff ? which is considered a small track then the size of the building required would be huge to accommodate not only a crowd but health and safety regulations. Anybody who has witnessed ‘ indoor speedway ‘ in the past, be that Telford, the NEC or elsewhere , will tell you it’s isn’t speedway as we know it, it’s gimmick speedway and not for the connoisseur’s.1 point