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Thought this was a Panthers thread not Ippo...

So we've got at least three Panthers fans who claim to be in the know and they all disagree entertaining stuff!

Always amazes me when clubs say they may not be able to afford to run next year and then a few weeks later are building a potentially title winning side great that they are coming to the tapes though of course. Also not their fault but Congreve's average is farcical!

I’ll have whatever you’re on for Berwick being a very strong looking side.

Richie Worrall's Premiership scores last season riding as a HL @ No.3 for King's Lynn. Worth every bit of his 6.15 average.

Emil and Hume to Ipswich providing they can sort the legalities Panthers to line up as expected for me

One other bonus to pulling the fast one is first two league meetings are H&A against Peterborough so the other riders wont have a need to throttle back as they will be getting pumped anyway

Not sure it matters as Leicester, Oxford & Workington have all built fantastic teams & wouldn't want to change anything, while Kent have happily built a team 2.4 under the points limit, so not planning to build a title challenging team apparently? P.s that's not an insult to Kent, maybe that she team they can afford to keep the club going?

Aye Topaz ya not wrong you could tell that when Steve Lawson came second in that Chariot race wid Charlton Heston in Ben Hur... in fact am sure Steve said that's where he got the idea for the shape of the track from wid those extra wide bends... ;-) Regards THJ Beat you to it Marksman and full apology made above... and Keith told me he was only 49... that's what threw me... although he's been saying that for the last 12 years that I know... so yep big slice of humble pie.... But that's Cumbria all owa Marra when ya sister can be ya mother ya auntie and ya cousin all in one and ya grandma is a sheep... Regards THJ

I wouldn't say Ruml had a bad 2022, depends on expectations I guess. It's a pity about Ablitt but lots of other youngsters have spots and I'm sure he'll get one at some point too.

Welcome back to Poole Kyle. Local lad, hometown club, popular with the fans. Should kick ass at reserve.

Other than tongue in cheek you won't see many (any?) Glasgow fans saying that. There are definite holes you can pick at, as there are with all the sides. I don't envisage vissing to be 8.5 rider in 2019 but somewhere between 6.5 & 7 riding at 2 or 4 rather than no.1. I've said my piece on Harris and probably complin too and not convinced by either signing. It's an exciting side but not favourites for me, 7 teams with not much between them on paper and 2 weak teams beginning with B unfortunately would be my tuppence worth

Good signing and as anticipated. Won't need much dialing in for heat 2 with a lot of the new inexperienced reserves. Will hopefully also do his confidence good to beat a lot (if not most) of those guys. Just fingers crossed he can stay injury free as imo would have been as good as Howarth if not better had injuries not hindered his progress over the years.

Kyle Newman number 6

From what Danny was quoted as saying in a recent Speedway Star, I'd imagine an announcement some time this week. I'm meeting him on Friday so things may well become clearer by then!

Regardless of being an asset a rider is self employed and does not have to wait if he got fixed up there would be nothing poole could of done . the asset system is entirely for the purpose of the bond to the Bspl

It's certainly not kind but with the points reduction can fully understand that Poole having to empty one recognised H/L would seek to go for 2 much stronger reserves to try and make sure they p/up the points against a lot of weaker reserves in 2023 to compensate. Especially if Ben Cook doesn't fill the 3rd H/L spot that many anticipate (or hope) he might. Also I fully appreciate it was Nathan's first Champ season and against many stronger reserves but the stats don't lie. In 38 Champ matches he had 120 rides and achieved a CMA of 1.47 per meeting. Yes he would probably up that in 2023 against some weaker reserves but even that no guaranteed. His 12 match N/L CMA was 7.20. A number of Champ reserves for 2023 had higher N/L av last season so no guarantee he would push on so much say against a Roynon (anticipated at Poole) who had a nearly 2 point higher av and with his experience will probably score a lot more against the younger inexperienced reserves. Yes it is a shame but as said elsewhere hopefully he will pick up a slot, especially if he improves his av in the now 8 team NDL as well as getting experience in the U24 POL EXL in Poland.

Just like most other clubs, then.

I've played against James at cockermouth. I hope his team manager skills is better than his bowling

A nice 8 points from 4 rides from Zach Cook in the 3rd round of the Aussie Champ earlier today after a pointless first ride. It's good experience for him to be mixing it with the top Aussie riders and importantly getting used to riding against more experienced and quality. Also importantly giving him racing experience before the UK season towards end of March. Never expected him to score lots of points against the top guys but getting odd points here and there can only be good for his development going forward, and importantly time on the bike.

How old do ya think Kieth is... you'll be another one off his Christmas card list... Correction.... and sincere apologies you are right... Best of it is and don't tell Anthony... I would have took Anthony for the older one of the two FFS... poor old Antony eh... must have had a hard paper round... Regards THJ

If I was to guess I'd say Oxford might see how their 2 pointers start the season and if not scoring points he'd get in there.

Even if there was I think two stronger reserves is better. We all know reserves can win meetings. Looks a well balanced team to me.

It's a shame especially having had a season under his belt you'd imagine he would be one of the better 2 pointers next season. Although I'm sure with injuries etc he'll get a spot somewhere.

The Aces in Pole Postion then.. "He's one of our own".. "That Robert Lambert, he's one of our own"......

There doesn’t seem to be the transfer “window” that we had last year, just a cut off point so changes can be made whenever clubs feel like it up to that point. Because of that it’s impossible to say who will ultimately lift the pot in August/September. There probably won’t be a single club that finishes the season with the same 7 riders that started it..

The only thing that is boring are these responses!

No,,, Hume will start season on his above 4 average,,, his 25% is only for team building. So many people don't seem to be getting this

I just wonder how many more times this will have to be pointed out to people!

Can't wait to come and watch this season when I'm free . Them lads have done an amazing job.

4 h 4 A normally,, but who knows these days

I have him at 3.56 less 2.5% = 3.47

Get what you are saying but you could say the same about 3 or 4 riders in every side. Vissing is a stonewall improver, Nowak might struggle on the two tightest circuits but should be fine elsewhere with the correct machinery. Can understand the doubts about Complin but think he'll be a very different rider to 2022.

That's bollix quite frankly. Since Danny boy publicly said he had plans a, b, c and a "dream team" No doubt Nathan asked or his dad asked, probably told he was in some permutations but not others and as an Asset did the respectful thing and waited. Would Danny Boy have authorised a move anyway until his own team was sorted? Nathan has been shafted by Poole and the Asset system and points reduction. The only inexperience he's shown is signing for a Club that spits out riders when it suits them

With no Bournemouth football match until Saturday, I wonder if we might get a reserve/s naming during this week. Bearing in mind we had the first 5 riders named in a 17 day period in December and Jan 1st I assume there is no reason why they can't announce at least one this week. Especially as most of us on the forum have an idea who they are so no work permit issues as both are Brits . I wonder if it is a work permit thing that may be holding up Plym & Brum if they are going for Aussie 4 pointers. Can't see any other reason for their delayed announcing.

Not Belle Vue's fault the rules were written out poorly!

I think Anthony Denham is Keith's nephew not brother so Keith would be James Great Uncle?

leaderboard going into the final round. All to play for !!! Doyle 50 Jack Holder 47 Tungate 38 Fricke 36 Kurtz 34 Sedgman 31 Pickering 31 Chris Holder 30

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Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

With most teams at or near completion it's easier to gauge the potential of each team. BERWICK; This is a very strong looking Bandits side, with the experience of Schlein to be the father figure over a fairly youthful team. If Flint & Knudsen can add to their tally then a play-off slot is assured. They will struggle at reserve more away from home. BIRMINGHAM; A team built to a tight budget, Morris will score well but will he be motivated when the going gets tough. I think another hard season for all at Perry Bar. EDINGBURGH; Fantastic that the Monarchs come to tapes but the loss of Masters will hit hard & his replacement in Cook is at best unpredictable in recent seasons. I cant see much happening towards the play offs GLASGOW; Money talks for the Tigers & again a massive side has been put in place with the single plan to win the title, can this be the season? if they can stay injury free there is every chance. OXFORD; A huge front line in Nicholls Masters & Kerr but will it be enough? The reserve pair are very green & a lot will rest on the shoulders of Heeps to bag a haul of points if they are to succeed. A good chance to make the play off series. PLYMOUTH; Another team built to a budget & much like Brum I believe they are in for a hard time & no play off in 23 POOLE; Five places filled & no doubt another big season will be expected at Wimbourne Road. The Cook's & Thomas continue to grow then the Pirates will please the home faithful. We await the reserves but I feel no matter a play off spot is the norm here. REDCAR; The Bears are a tough call, in Riss, Wright & King they have a strong spearhead but there is a long tail for that head to wag. It's going to be close but I dont think this is Redcar's year. SCUNTHORPE; There will be a lot of last heat deciders at the EWR in the coming season but weather the Scorpions have the firepower to get the result in the big races remains to be seen. So for the play offs I have Berwick, Poole, Glasgow & Oxford

A few yet,, the same person made the same mistake about Hume at Ipswich

He won't be in the team on 4.40. He'll be on his rolling average of 5.86. 4.40 is team building only.

A half a dozen people crying on here is irrelevant.

...however I still don't see the issue allowing ex-riders gaining free entry to the clubs they rode for using the examples of the less than dramatic influx that you implied in my earlier post on that particular subject?

You really don't get this forum do you

All it needs is a slip trip or fall and where there is blame there is a claim... once upon a time it was your fault if you tripped over... not now... and the walk to Northside is riddled with potential trip hazards... Also no one said it was remote however it is in an isolated position in the town without easy (walking) access at present but I can see that changing in the short to medium term... but it is much better if you are in a vehicle to get to the track... Folk will need to temper their expectations as this will be a work in progress for a number of years and a multitude of factors will need to be looked at as part of the on going process... Regards THJ

Reds football season will finish at the beginning of May, speedway will probably start at beginning of may due to only having 6/ 7 home league meetings, then reds start again mid August by which time speedway league meetings will be about finished, then if in playoffs or ko cup these could be arranged to avoid a clash with the reds, I know people are debating right or wrong with Saturday afternoon, but can we keep positive and look forward to the rebirth of the comets and back Andrew Bain and co in this venture ( I have no connection with them ) UTC

Unfortunately, I think Osborne played a blinder with Swindon. Make excuses why they couldnt run for a couple of years, then by the time they delivered the killer blow, half the supporters had moved on already. If this had happened immediately after the 2019 league win the fans would have been up in arms. They did a similar thing with us at Reading, promise a new track next year, oh sorry maybe the year after. Then maybe next year, before you know it, not enough people care...

Think it is better to have electric speedway, than no speedway at all Quite honestly, as long as the racing is close i couldn't care less what is powering the bikes