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I didn't see the comment in the light of 'I know something you don't'. I think it's fair for a rider to comment that there's others they'd be more concerned about on track without giving specific names. Are these things not linked though? As others have said, if it was a convicted felon going back into plumbing or mechanicing, no-one would care less. Speedway is neither important enough nor sufficiently in the public eye that there's any sort of reputational issue involved, and as much scumbag behaviour offends and appalls me, I think once you've done your time you should be able to resume a gainful working career unless the crime was related to your original employment (i.e. child abusers should never be allowed to work with children or vulnerable people).

Really? Why haven't you mentioned it before?

Why oh why did we not keep Claus. Be struggling if he wasn't here tonight

But are the contenders ready

Think saw an interview with cami the logic was 6 Brits with 2.5% reductions meant the side was built nearer 40 than 38. But I'm with everyone else Claus would've got my vote in that position, and each riders early season form only drives home that opinion

Still waiting for the people demanding the meeting be postponed due to the weather to pop up & admit they were wrong / congratulate the track staff / promotion for ensuring the meeting went ahead.

No one likes us we don’t care .. (even referees it seems )

The moment Glasgow got Vissing in for Flint I think Berwicks chances of getting the bonus point went up in smoke. We had a fair chance before that imo and I don’t think Sedgy will do a bad job at all, he was the best pick of what was available with Brennan away and Nicholls ultimately never takes Championship guest bookings. Vissing however makes Glasgow extremely strong, I do also wonder why they let him go and brought Leon in but only time will tell if it works out for them.

Well say nothing then

Was surprised that we never asked about Borke as it was clear he couldn’t get to grips with Armadale. From memory he was very impressive at Glasgow last season and again tonight. Berwick have won a watch getting him this season, Kemp very impressive also it was the heat leaders that let them down tonight.

In Poland they have what they call sparring meetings or in our terms challenge meetings maybe to iron problems out as UK season is so short a couple of pre season meetings could even run POTE just to get riders dialled in be better than going in cold into league meetings

"Not that great" Oxford took unbeaten Ipswich to within 6 points, with a missing rider & a manager who made a howler. That would've been a good result even with a full team. Harris has been decent, you can't really give him grief over one poor match, after all he was signed on a sub 7 average, you can't expect big scores every week. Janowski has been poor, but they are better to wait till gets a new average then drop a reserve for another heat leader (if anyone's available).

Actually Schroeck's excuse for his mistakes makes him look even more inept imo I’m normally clued up, but there was so much going on towards the end of the meeting and I missed an opportunity there and that does frustrate me. As soon as Tungate was missing & Clouting was his planned replacement, the obvious choice would be for Wright / Clouting or Wright on his own to take the first 3 rides with Riss replacing Clouting / Tungate in heat 14 alongside Boughen. Then once they were 6 points down, very obviously you'd put Nicholls in instead of Boughen. So how was "so much going on" that he made a mistake? He should have known what to do before the first heat?

Tungate's absence last night at Ipswich is being looked into by the SCB. No decision yet but could result in a 28 day ban for withholding his services. https://britishspeedway.co.uk/miscellaneous/scb-statement-rohan-tungate/

Before my time really and don't fully know the details of that particular theft. But whilst I wouldn't equate the gravity of straightforward nicking of bikes with robbing vulnerable people with menaces, I don't think you'd want such people back in the same workplace where there's the opportunity to nick more bikes. I think I previously qualified my views on rehabilitation versus ongoing risk to others involved in the industry. At the end of the day though - with certain obvious exceptions - I think it needs to be up to individual employers whether they want to employ former criminals. I wouldn't employ someone who'd robbed disabled people unless I was absolutely convinced they were a reformed character, but if you get into blanket bans on former criminals resuming their former (honest) trade for unrelated crimes, where does it stop? And unless you mandate the death penalty for every crime, even former criminals need to make a living otherwise we'll continue to have to pay for them.

Bringing Leon in is probably down to 2 things his age and they probably hope there is room for more improvement.

Strawman argument. Harris's GSA is under 7 so no one should regularly expect him to score double figures. He's outscored his average in 4 out of 5 matches so far this season and that's an admirable record, not a reason to laugh at him.

Yip, I agree I've said to someone who pulled the old 'I have a reliable source so I am right but I wont tell you my source' sort of thing that if you arent willing to name the source then keep schtum. Its the same for this situation It was worth a cheeky attempt at trying to get the name though I didnt for a minute expect it to succeed though As an aside though, it concerns me a little that the drugs side of thing is what is being concentrated on rather than what he did to a vulnerable disabled elderly person in their own home. If you want to get over the narrow minded perception of some of speedway's image, Im not sure granting him his licence back is the way to go about it

….and invented football.

I couldn't possibly comment on the ineptitude of the Oxford team manager....

How about Klindt for Rogers??

I think his opponents will question whether they will want to be in a race, on a lethal machine, with someone as mentally unstable as he is? brick laying, plumbing, etc etc etc.....are one thing....but, one of the most dangerous sports in the world is another!? Just saying.....

If my granny had wheels she'd be a bike (gini d'acampo quote)

A lot off If buts and maybe,s if lee hadn’t failed his drug test pretty sure Glasgow would have won at Berwick if the team manager gave Borke 7 rides you might have got bonus point

Think starky did ok tonight paid 8 from a 4 point rider is pretty decent he used his head in his last heat to team ride with Sam to keep Borke behind but was struggling for speed suppose lack of riding doesn’t help either

Looks like R/R at #1 for the Gladiator's. Makes perfect sense given the riders could use every bit of track time available to them and it’s unnecessary to bring a guest down given the expenses that would be involved. Will be good to see the team in action tomorrow after a really, really promising night at Oxford on Wednesday

The crowd wasn't brilliant at Owlerton last night and that wasnt being streamed - but I accept what you are saying. For me however streaming is great to watch an away match or one i wouldn't not travel to - due to distance etc but no substitute for actually being there same with any live sport. On a brighter note as someone who really felt for him last year at times its good to see Joe Thompson getting the wins / points this season.

King's Lynn has to be grippy vs Sheffield. Woffinden always bins it at Lynn when grippy & C.Holder will cry like a female dog about it. The boys would need practice time on it though or the Stars will be binning it also. Run the track slick, King's Lynn won't hit 40 at home, & they can't afford another defeat

Sound like my 3 1/2 year old grandson.! ‘But why’.

But Leon will have european/world u21/23 meetings all season, just like tomorrow

Harris was his normal foxhall self.

Denis Law once scored six goals in an FA Cup match for Manchester City which was subsequently abandoned so none of them counted!

Both of Saturday’s matches POSTPONED- bad weather.

And those that didn't go because of the supposedly poor conditions missed a quite entertaining meeting. (Unless of course, they bought the stream instead). Conditions at the racetrack were so bad that it meant that they had to water the track during the meeting!

Exactly. If you follow this line if thought to it's logical conclusion why not dispense with all that messy racing and random variations and just add up the two teams GSAs and award the match to the team with the highest combined average. [Think of the savings: No stadium to rent, staff to employ, machinery to purchase, riders to pay]

poor effort from belle vue, ride like that in our other away matches probably wont make play offs.

He was unable to make it aswel.

Not sure about that. Jordan I’m sure will come good but we’re still unbeaten with a under performing Jordan.

If they sacked Klindt for underperforming, does that mean they'll do the same with the team manager?

so oxford could have fielded riss and nicholls in ht14 because tungate had forfeited his 3 min rides but they messed up handing the meeting to ipswich

The problem I brought up pre-season is most of if not all of Vlad and Patryk's UK experience is on the Showground circuit which counts for nothing now. They're basically having to start from scratch and it's a big risk asking both riders to rack up the points consistently especially Patryk who hasn't even ridden every track in the league. For KL to even push for a play-off place they need the Ekstraliga versions of Vlad and Patryk due to how poor the engine room stacks up compared to other teams (MPT and NKI's best days are long gone).

Are track records in the rule book?

No way he will say the name on a forum

Agreed! But he's one of the few that have a criminal record for it, therefore, it hits home with a bit more awareness (imo) Personally, I loved watching JG when he was at B'ham....great entertainer and one of the few riders that was worth the entrance fee. I wish him well, as in well-being and hope he's educated himself in the art of 'humanism'!

Really nice feature / tributes to JL in the star today

One is in a wheelchair. One is in disgrace through drugs.

Nobody has ever said Tate or the fin were no hopers if anything people have praised those signings. So bit of a Strange comment.

I'd suggest that Riss does have room for improvement seeing as he was unwell last year and probably rode when he shouldn't have done. That said not sure I'd have replaced Klindt with him.

It’s a shame that Emil isn’t in the GP’s,he is class and one of the few that could give Bartosz a real challenge over the season.