stevebrum

Which it was so really unsure now!

I thought riding NL counted but I'm not convinced it does now unless he has dual heritage?

Nothing has been confirmed officially by the BSPA and averages for the new season and team building have not been released. Pure speculation still.

More than happy to prove you wrong.

That's your opinion, I just happen to believe you are wrong. You need to read my posts a bit wider if you think I'm defensive about Wolves. As a fan of the club I have a right to agree or disagree with an opinion. I've also noticed from a previous thread you are very impatient when asking a question. I guess we are all different. And that's the beauty of this forum. (Trolls exempt naturally)

got to admit it's an uninspiring signing. no one knows what Milik average would be, they haven't released assessed averages for those who didn't ride here in 2017. No way should riders like Milik, Woryna and Lebedevs stay on their false averages. If riders like Woffy and Kildemand are given a 9 then there has to also be a realistic average also for the other riders. anybody rubbing their hands with joy at the thought of signing riders on an outdated average are as good as condoning cheating. BSPA need to sort this ASAP. They aren't, they are guessing. No figures have been released yet.

Masters was over 8 before his injury so improvement there. Howarth had a break thru year this year so still improvement to be made. In a 1 rider over 8 league Rory should easily add to that average. 100% improvement in all 3. who's the 4th??? 3 signed. In fairness your tales usually are incredibly weak.

brilliant news for the Robins. 2 bright British lads with big improvement in both ahead. That's assuming they haven't altered that rule but then again anything is possible.

Great news. Welcome back Rory.

Of course he did. They announced it before the AGM. Vaculik was never going to Poole in 2018.

I reckon we will see on mass cheating as the top boys have engine failures and tape breaks and mysterious dips in form as riders try get under 8. I won't be surprised.

That's why it isn't fair. You can't regrade some and not others. Complete farce and totally unfair. Any team that signs a rider who didn't ride here in 2017 are getting a ringer. And deserve all the ill feeling that comes with it. Thanks again to the complete incompetence of the BSPA.

do you mean me saying that I agree Tai and other riders should be reassessed for fairness and clarity?? you can't change the rules mid season but you can make the rules 'fair for all' to start a new season. It's interesting that you interpret it as bias towards my own club, which it's clear it isn't. Woffy has as valid an average of any rider. The year that Tai and all the other top boys got low averages was due to the race format. Making their averages falsely low. I can see it's only fair that riders who didn't ride here in 2017 (under the regular race format) have an outdated average so I think it's fair to give them a 'new' realistic average. It's just whether 9 is a 'fair' assessment. Of course I agree that any rider who didn't ride here in 2017 therefore has an outdated average. Reassess one, reassess all who weren't here in 2017. It's just the assessment of the new average that needs clarity.

Obviously trying to collect every club as a badge of honour. Thank god he isn't admired by the management at Wolves. Phew!

that's just you then Steve. He was struggling in Poland and a rider that is ranked 45th in the averages isn't a number one rider if that's by name only. That's the most extreme stretch you can make as a view point. I agree his average was low for his ability but he struggled for Wolves but the odd great race he had proved what talent he had. If he hadn't ridden here this year I'd expect him to be reassessed for 2018 along with any returnee. Nobody hates Poole, it's just the odd few posters on here that breed contempt for the club. Obviously it suits some to say everyone hates Poole but it is of course an untruth.

Jacob's form away was much improved this year, with an average of 7.55 (8.19 with BP). A point lower than Fred. The main difference of course was that it was from the supposed easier position of no4. A lot has been made of Jacob struggling away over the recent years but that's not the case in 2017. Both he and Freddie could be considered a risk coming back from season ending serious injuries.

You really think no one would say anything if ANY club signed Woryna for 2018?? The same rider who has improved massively since he he was last here? The same argument for Milik and Lebedevs. What part of riders who didnt ride here in 2017 get a new average do you disagree with? All of it or part of it? ? Surely you are okay with Woffy being reassessed??? What's the difference for Woryna. As for Musielak if he was coming back in 2018 having missed this season I'd expect him to be reassessed no question as he too has improved. Did anyone really think he would have improved that much BEFORE he came to Swindon? This is NOT about it being Poole. It would be about ANY club signing a rider on a false average. All riders should be being reassessed if they missed 2017 Steve, you are being very blue tinted if you really think this is about attacking Poole. It really isn't.

We know it won't be true sadly.

I wasn't involved. I had posted on the thread. Stop making lies up again. Thanks for this post that is pathetic and bickering. Hypocrite.

And look at the furore that caused and helped change the rule the following season (by putting deadline on when riders can return mid season) and for some reason they have altered Tai and other GP boys again this year by giving them an average that will as good as ensure they can't return in 2018. If it's 'fair' to change the GP boys real averages then it's 'fair' to reassess ANYONE who didn't ride here in 2017. And here is the key, if they are using the benchmark of 'not riding here in 2017' how fair is it to say it only affects certain riders and not others? ? Isn't that by any description unfair?? Either reassess ALL riders who missed 2017 or leave averages as they are for those who have a TRUE average like Tai had in 2016. Don't we want fairness and transparency from our governing body??? Or do we want to allow some teams to use ringers year in year out?? I speak as someone who supports a team that has 2 potential ringers for the future so I'm hardly thinking of my team alone.

Already looking like a bottom 4 side IMHO.

Thanks. Just wanted to make it clear that someone is lying yet again.

Exactly. For fairness everybody should want that.

I had absolutely nothing to do with getting this thread locked for clarity.

I was hoping they might see the same logic as a mere fan might. I know I'm probably asking for too much.