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And the Poole thread reopened so this thread is now redundant.

CVS mentioned nothing about Somerset's finances. Someone is just posting made up nonsense. As someone who was present I think my information trumps that of someone who wasn't.

it was bad enough a few years ago with just the one person seemingly switching between accounts at will and having several aliases. The same one is still causing mayhem with constant trolling and even more aliases. Saying sorry cuts no ice as it will just continue. I genuinely feel sorry for the sensible Poole fans. But history has proven, this is what the multi aliased one does. And more and counting.

Only one person trolling the Poole thread, and that's the multi aliased one. It's good admin have stepped in.

I fully expect Kurtz to be the better rider in 2018 as at such a young age is cutting out the lower tier and establishing himself in the top flight and trying to prove himself abroad. That alone should see his career kick on again in 2018. However in the UK in 2017 Morris had a break thru season establishing himself in the top flight and a proper heat leader and scorer. Brady did a great job for Poole by establishing himself as a number one, albeit in a rather average Poole side. Morris certainly had the best UK top flight season in 2017 however you dress it.

I didn't say they told the whole story. Stop making stuff up. It's very much open to discussion who is the better overall rider, there is no real answer to that. Morris still had the better top flight season. That there is no doubt. And I'm correct.

I wasn't discussing the debate. I only quoted that Morris has a higher top flight average than Kurtz. You seem to believe that's incorrect wrongly as per usual. Kurtz has a bright future ahead of him but in England he is behind Morris, which is no disgrace. Hopefully that clears up the facts.

Correct, I've been wrong once.Shame that your wrong list in endless. But then your known for embarrassing yourself by getting things wrong. Several times already today. Classic KKS.

Stop lying. CVS never said such a thing. Next you will be saying that Kurtz has a better top flight average than Morris. Yet more nonsense.

So that's confirmed. ... Morris has a higher top flight average than Kurtz. Nice sorting the FACTS out. No harm in being wrong........again.

that wasn't what I said tho! Brady has great potential yes. we couldn't agree terms. Glad you used facts as your argument point. FACT Morris had a higher top flight average than Kurtz in 2017. Fact confirmed. Nothing else to discuss. Let's face it, no one is taking seriously the words of a multi alias poster. Got any more facts need confirming from the British league?? Correct me if I'm wrong. Did Morris finish with a higher average than Kurtz?? That's the only yardstick to use as to who had the better season. Now,who has the better potential? ?? Totally different argument. I can't believe so many Poole fans are disagreeing that Morris didn't finish with a higher average! !!

And Morris is still a better top flight rider than Kurtz. End of.

And that's why the AGM statement should be crystal clear. It would make it so much easier.

Can't say I've followed the Swedish team announcements so far so im surprised that he hasn't. Of course if he isn't then he can ride in UK on a 9. Someone must have big pockets.

Pure guess work.

Sacked by Coventry (twice), Poole, Lakeside, Birmingham. The ultimate let down.

Nothing has been confirmed tho yet has it. They haven't even released the averages for team building for 2018 yet! CVS confirmed they hadn't been fully agreed yet and that was this week! The rule will probably change to say you can bring who you want in once the averages change. There can be no such as keeping the limit to just 1 over 8 all season because if 2 or more riders increase and go above 8 during the season they aren't going to be expected to move on. Common sense will hopefully allow teams to change as they want after the first set of averages so you can be sure there will be teams cheating to get the limit down. BSPA another mess up awaiting.

Absolutely, it was more than within the rules for 2016. I didn't see the tweet regards Zagar but I fail to see how he can race here in 2018 when it's the same reason he couldn't ride here in 2017 - the Polish ruling. If he has signed in Poland and Sweden then he can't sign here with his home league still counting. Unless he knows something we all don't that the Poles aren't going to enforce the dictatorship rule again in 2018. Fingers crossed for that. I doubt certain BSPA members voted just to stop the Aces signing Zagar on 7 something. The reason then would be the same to stop Wolves signing Piotr I guess then.

I remember a time in the not so distant past that the AGM press release gave loads of information, made the rules quite clear and easy to understand and by doing so treating the fans with reverence and respect. Now its as minimal as you can get with more questions than answers! Do we know when the averages for team building will be available?

Interesting times ahead then! So regrade GP riders who want to come back and now can't and let everyone else keep their averages? ?? Barmy. What part of 'riders who didn't race here in 2017 will be reassessed' to 'only if they GP riders so you can't bring a ringer in'? So let other clubs bring ringers in because they aren't GP riders????? It's typical BSPA mucking up what should be a simple are transparent rule. I can't wait to read how they word it when they finally release the info into the public domain. Sooner they release the averages for riders for 2018 the better. To avoid more confusion.

deluded. It's the same reason he didn't ride here in 2017. The Polish ruling. No chance of 2 others tho?? Great news that Sam is back. Never doubted it. http://www.wolverhamptonwolves.co/_mobile/news.php?extend.2876

Depends on the classification of GP riders. 2017/2018?? There aren't 7. Fricke, Masters, Tungate, Kurtz have all ridden in a GP in 2017. They aren't GP riders tho. The BSPA have messed the deal up by making up the 1 over 8 rule and no chance of those who might be interested in coming back.

It's a shame we miss out on Piotr on his real average but at least the BSPA have finally done the very thing many have been asking for and give this standard of rider a real average. I say shame because he would have been a great addition to our side for 2018 and to the league. It also makes it harder for the league to attract these 7 GP riders that BT apparently want as part of their deal. Not that Zagar was ever coming back, because of the Polish ruling and Janowski was never going to come either.

CVS and Adams always mention Ford and Poole!! However if wasn't mentioned that Ford instigated the 9 point rule. Those words I wish for very single season so yes obviously I want transparency in the rules every single season that are set out clearly at the start of the year and no sudden we will change or amend this rule because we hadn't thought it. I can only assume you are referring to Woffy coming back on his real average?? It was all within the rules wasn't it??? If they had regraded Woffy and all GP standard riders as a 9 at the start of 2016 I'd have applauded it. For me it's always about what's best for our sport and league, not what's best for my club. Fairness and clarity would make things so much better for the fans and BSPA IMHO.

Zagar unlikely because of the Polish rule and 9 point reassessment. Janowski is a no go now that Brady has signed.