stevebrum

CVS has already said he will have a place if other teams are having a similar 2+ rider as 7 as well, otherwise he won't as he will be cannon fodder.

Absolutely no question of a doubt for me. We need BT of any TV company that wants to take the sport on. As previously proved plenty were watching the various previous coverage that some had filmed on periscope of speedway which shows people will watch a sport they love on any platform they can. It's only when SKY and then the club's clamped down on the recordings that halted the coverage on periscope. What we need is a major player, and BT seem to want us. Can't believe there isnt one promoter that can't see the bigger picture - other than the one that cares only about lining their own pockets.

it's fair, of course it's fair. Everyone knows Woffy is way better than 7.03. Ditto all the 7+ GP standard riders. Ditto riders like Woryna who have improved massively since he was last here. All those riders earned their averages only riding against other heat leaders so of course they are falsely low. I'm delighted we are doing more to give riders realistic averages so no one can be accused of 'being a ringer' as accused clubs like Poole and Wolves have faced in recent seasons. More than fair to me even tho it means Wolves will miss out on Piotr coming back. Fairness for all is all I care about. I've already answered this when questioned by Hydred. The comment was made by CVS at the talk in. There is no mention of it anywhere else to my knowledge.

In fairness no other new averages have been released yet. CVS did say that all the averages were waiting to be confirmed and released still.

But if the BSPA are reassessing ALL riders who didn't ride here in 2017 then it's unlikely he will stay at 4.65. That's the only point I was trying to make. And that isn't an anti Poole stance in the slightest.

No more than Poole. Try asking Kyle Newman if it's safe to ride. Blinkered response again.

Can't you read??? Just in case you have trouble read the line I've quoted for you above. I'll await your apology for getting your facts wrong. The only bitter one here is you in thinking Woryna doesn't count as a rider not being regrading. If you have a sensible logic I'd love to hear it. until then I await your apology if you want to continue a reasonable discussion.

Voted the best prepared track 3 times out of the past 5 years you mean?? small technical track with excellent preparation. And then there's awful tracks like Poole. Anyway it's a wasted argument. Poole fans often say their track is brilliant as most home supporters would think. However if you can't see the bigger picture then it's a wasted discussion.

CVS confirmed the 2 Brit rule has been abolished (and added it was the wrong decision, particularly in the 2nd tier) and that GP riders or those who missed 2017 like Tai, Pawlicki(s), Zagar would return as a 9. No clarification for those not GP standard like Woryna and the new Pole at Leicester on their averages but they were waiting for final clarification on averages. So things yet might still, change, only in British Speedway. Agree completely. It's unfair to alter Holder without altering Fred and Jason. Holder had a poor season in the UK and GP series. His average reflects that. No way should we make an exception to give one rider a new average because it would appear too low.

It's laughable because the style of the post is the same for the multiple aliases. I doubt even the poster themselves knows how many aliases they have created. At a guess it's easily in double figures. You have to question the bizarre nature of this behaviour tho. Still, each to their own.

Well, I have a bike but it would take a good sponsorship deal to get me to ride that motocross track every week. Paperboys have to have someone to look up to I guess.

It was a 2 fold issue this season with the ridiculous multiplyer, particularly for those given an average over the maximum points you can score and then not using it for returners later in the season. Next season seems a clear plan of reassessing those on low averages (for GP riders or GP standard) and for those who didn't ride in the UK in 2017. It seems quite a clear plan to me! However the BSPA never do things clearly so it could mean anything!! For me the ruling seems clear that it affects anyone who didn't ride here in 2017. For once it seems a sensible ruling!

He has a 2017 average so unlikely I'd say.

Likewise, been watching our boys in Oz too! Some of the quality has been near awful but on the whole okish with a good signal. Love periscope for all the cycle speedway stuff tho, including all the major British events over here too.

Can, and will be. If not then something very fishy going on.

Woryna is likely to be reassessed in line with the BSPA regrading for riders missing 2017. 4.65 is not a definite average yet so needs removing.

The quality is likely to be dodgy at best.

I beg your pardon?? its nothing to do with who he rides for. Please grow up. Woryna is the ONLY example as he is the only rider signed for 2018 that didn't ride here in 2017. you are aware that riders who didn't ride here in 2017 will be given a new average for 2018?? are you actually saying because it's Poole he SHOULDN'T be reassessed??? I mean, are you really??? I couldn't care less who signs/signed him. The BSPA have already said returning riders are getting new averages. Maybe you haven't read up on information before you post nonesense. it's in fitting with what PP was given for Leicester and I expect KP will be given a 7 too. Don't see a reason to be any lower. Can see Woryna on a 7 too which would be a fair assessment. WRONG. I care only for transparency with the rules and regulations. You can say I wouldn't be saying it if he signed for Wolves, but you would be lying. I haven't got my own thread thanks. A forum is for a anyone to post wherever they want. Next thing you will be telling me not to post on a Poole thread whilst you infest every other thread yourself. As we know you are such a hypocrite. Just so you don't look any more ridiculous this is NOT a Poole thread.

indeed, a point I didn't favour in. Silly me. It's not been confirmed who voted what or who, it's just a guess that may be right. I'm certainly not blaming Poole at all, I only reported what was said at the Wolves talk in. I've not mentioned Poole in the negative in the slightest. Please do not add the usual blaming Poole in a comment that I make. Again, I reiterate - do NOT quote my posts or replies indicating I'm blaming anyone.

My pleasure. Only too happy to report what was actually said.

I'm assuming all riders that didn't ride here in 2017 will be reassessed if coming back which seems fair and transparent. Woryna so far the only rider likely to need a 'new' assessment other than 9.

So you would suggest 4/4 split vote with the benefit given to the 4 weakest? can't see that IMHO.

I would have said it was more than 780!

It's pretty obvious it was a majority vote and it's clear that Swindon and Wolves were in the minority. One would assume the aces the 3rd. It may be obvious to suggest that Poole and this year's bottom 4 promoters voted in favour of.

CVS only reported the 9 point rule, he didn't say who voted for it because he wasn't there.