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I don't. I was going on the basis he twice stayed in front of bjerre. so just working on the £55 a point maximum pay and the 2 points he would have lost had he let Bjerre through that's £110.

Very Interesting point Glyn, so how much money would Doolan have lost in his wage packet if he'd have allowed the quicker Bjerre past for his teams benefit. It looked to happen twice in the meeting i'd say so Doolan would need to give away £110 from his pay packet for the benefit of Leicester as whole if he was to let Bjerre past to chase. I'm guessing that going by Kevin's pleas for help in sponsorship £110 is probably a lot of money for him to just give away. I do wonder whether we'll be able to spot teams who 'have a way around this'.

I've thought about how to say this as i don't want to appear to be just have a dig for the sake of it as some would believe me to be in the business of, but i watched the whole of thursday nights Sheffield meeting from the edge of the pits and I did notice Hemsley appeared half way through and began getting more and more involved in the pits. It didn't really appear to be in an interacting, getting behind the lads and the manager kind of way either but more in a interfering kind of way, much like he has been inclined to in previous years. I don't think anything ruins a team morale more than a promoter undermining the decision making processes if that was what it actually was. But that's certainly what looked to be happening to me. I wonder if the same happened last night in Edinburgh. Maybe that's one of the major issues we have.

hoping the team is as well! well, this thread ain't really taking off is it? maybe 'the timings' right for a prominent member of the Leicester backroom staff to come back on here to start threatening violence on robert72 again or else for someone, who may or may not be the same person, to get back to censoring all his members LSSC facebook posts again. Come on, we need something to work with, we can't do it all ourselves. Mick.

I think Nightshift said it in the last thread but by replacing Roynon with Karlsson we've ended up with pretty last years squad with the addition of Doolan. I can't see how we can expect last years dismal away performances to be improved on all of a sudden. I know lots of people like Karlsson but his inclusion has unfortunately completety changed the dynamic of this years team in my eyes.

Ouch! that looked painful. i don't think we'll be the only team walking away from armadale on a thrapping of that order though.

Sorry Tina, but this wasn't the point i was making at all. Probably the fault lies in my explaination but there you go. My point being irrespective of how they actually rode or ride, the BP track affords a rider the ability to get away with poor preparation due to the fact that wherever you find yourself once you've 'popped' out the gate it's easier to defend your position than at most tracks that actually have lines to overtake on. I fear we've moved on a little since yesterday now though , but i did want to make my point clear.

i think you're right. It's the complacency that comes with being able to pop out the gate in a scoring position at BP and not having another worry in the world for 4 laps. as you said, i think the ability of Roynon and to a lesser extent Doolan being able to deal with these kind of tracks was the main they were added to the team.

I think the problem with sheffield's team is that Richard Hall has hit the ground running. I'll be surprised if he can keep anything like that form up and then Sheffield have problems when he tails off. Impressed by Jake Knight though last night. and Albin looks like Moran style hero material!

i was going to just like this post, but i have to say i like it a lot as i was in the process of writing pretty much exactly the same thing word for word until it popped up.I thought Kevin looked pretty decent last night and It should be noted that Kevin was straight out trying out a second bike after the meeting which shows the efforts he's putting into getting himself up to speed.

i guess the point to make though is that happens more often at Leicester than most other places due to the 1 line around 1/2 and the 1 and a half lines around 3/4. Unless you are genuinely much much faster then it's often the only way by.

Classic! I must have been on me holidays that week because i don't recall it at all!.. clear proof that the crowds in the second season weren't too far off the levels of opening night as well.

Easier said than done though Nightshift. I've spent 28 years dreaming of the day Speedway came back to Leicester, only to end up with this. It's hard to turn your back on a dream i'm afraid. The heart still rules the head. That's why i still have season tickets and believed they'd have kept their word with regards to the track. Even though they had previous form from year 2. That's why i'm on this forum taking and giving stick off people who clearly know better than me such as Long Eye and Hurricances. The great freindly welcoming hello from the staff don't help when every meeting i'm then met with a kick right in the nuts. Why accept the crap. Interesting to see people are again bringing problems with the track and promotion onto the LSSC website. You can't keep covering it up forever. Just because you say it's great don't make it so. We ain't all mugs. Look at the Plymouth fans. If things need changing then pressure can clearly work. Work hard enough and hope something changes. Mick.

you're so right, i checked with Wie-ja and he confirmed there were 24 genuine passes on the first corner alone last night and if just to prove your point about overtaking i rewatched this http://www.youtube.c...h?v=UOc1tpQIySc and actually opened my eyes this time.

It was a joke Tina. Irony and all that. much as the same way, to be brutally honest, i wasn't really interested how Nick Mallett got on 'the cult of personality' Montie. In Leicester's case it's the 'cult of personalities'. I fear they cannot see the irritation it causes to anyone not in the 'cliquey club'. as i put earlier. A question for Methanol fans, I do wonder what Popple is doing back out presenting. He appears to have changed nothing about his style whatsoever and i did wonder if he was giving all his and Darcy's detractors another one of his 'up yours' tonight by reverting right back to cartchphrase type and also mentioning the 'Dave Darcy' stand to death. I think he'd be far wiser to realise the opinion most people have on both and to adjust his pitch to suit. you only have to look at the way they try and control fans views on the LSSC Facebook site to understand where they come from. It's something that unfortunately apprears to pervade our club for some reason. Mick.

I've acknowledged last nights improvement but equally i fail to see how the best you can come up with is that bend 1 & 2 could still produce more. Or for that matter the first home meeting was anything but dreadful. Surely that's an 'agenda'. My 'agenda' is the following. I want to see decent racing and to feel the £1100 i've spent is money well spent, unlike last year, when i was mugged out of my money. Would you not agree with that?

19.54% and 80.46%?. Are you sure, I've just checked that and at best i can only come up with 20.82% ads to 79.18% content. How do you work it out. anyways, good to see you back. I actually missed your input during the Dave Darcy debate. I guess you were busy. Mick.

If Sheffield make the track similar to last time Leicester were in town, and they'd be daft not to, then i'd say an absolute whalloping in the offing. I think Bjerre may be one of the few people to give Stead a go around Owlerton and whereas none out of Nieminen, Doolan & Blackbird look fast enough at the mo they will try and mix it a little. I can't see Graversen & Karlsson doing much and I honestly couldn't see last years version of Nielsen troubling the scoring around Owlerton let alone the one we've seen this year so far, whose confidence is completely shot. I think Sheffield by 14+ Mick.

Too cold for my kids so missed the second half junior meeting. Interesting to see ex Newport promoter Nick Mallett riding. Just wondered whether he managed to set the stadium on fire with his performance or not?

whilst i will never see a genuine pass on bends 1 & 2 if i live to be a 100 years old, it's that bad, I did think there were some decent passes on 3 & 4 tonight. Totally agree about best races ever though. It was Bjerre overtaking Palm Toft for christ sake. I might do a 1/2 bend overtaking count for the season. so far 90 post first corner laps 0 genuine overtakes. A question for Methanol fans, I do wonder what Popple is doing back out presenting. He appears to have changed nothing about his style whatsoever and i did wonder if he was giving all his and Darcy's detractors another one of his 'up yours' tonight by reverting right back to cartchphrase type and also mentioning the 'Dave Darcy' stand to death. I think he'd be far wiser to realise the opinion most people have on both and to adjust his pitch to suit. It's a bit like Peterborough and in that if prepared right can serve up fantastic racing but can have that futility about it as an away supporter when it's over deep and set up for huge outside runs by riders used to these tracks. I remember some painful nights in the 80s / 90s as Long Eaton visited both tracks, watching home riders hammering it round the edge and making half a corner every bend. I guess it would have been fun if i was a Tigers or Panthers supporter though! That Leicester meeting last year when Bjerre was awesome took me right back down memory lane

Might be in for a bit of humble pie eating tonight with regards to overtaking on 3 & 4. that was a great meeting. First properly decent meeting i've seen at the track since it opened. Well done Lions. Karlsson looked better than any point last year. I'm now wishing i had the ability of the LSSC to remove all my posts about the crap track changes over the last week. Mick.

there was also quite a bit of mention earlier in the week about the toilets, including a link to the BSF Leicester / Sheffield thread and specifically the Jim The Whipper parody of the BSPA and toilets but these also disappeared. I'm sure posts about the track go the same way.

I'd ask this on the LSSC facebook site but not sure if talk of this nature is allowed so i'll stick to BSF. my question is this Andy.. Can you remember what you were originally told by Lionsden's nemesis about the track changes and why would that appear to leave Adam plenty more room? How did these changes relate to what we actually have? Is what we have 'plenty of room'

As much as i've enjoyed this thread i fear we've not really talked about toilets, track, or for that matter, speedway! I'm going out on a limb and predicting a fairly easy win tonight even though Scunthorpe's main body are all very decent at times aound BP. I think Jorgensen will top score, Birks will be good, Palm Toft will verge on the good, Howe may not be able to quite match our top two on his return from injury and their reserves will struggle to trouble the scoresheet. Which leaves Auty. After two years of trying to find that law of physics defying extra line round bend 1 and 2 it depends on whether he reverts to the line everyone else uses. The former will require a bit of reinforcement on the air bag before the pits entrance, the latter will net him a good score and could make it very close. On the evidence so far given he's not one for giving up though, so i'd say a decent win for us and an air bag replacement for Leicester. Other predictions tonight are a lot of people asking to nip out the stadium to take a pee up the fence, not much mention of the great Dave Darcy, and a shocker of a track. After all the practicing it's been used for all week, which i guess has happened, and without the track being worked on by anyone with any knowledge all week (could be what Dave Darcy alludes to be doing), which i also guess to be true, heres my big prediction. The track will be a bit rutty and probably down to the base going into the bends and we'll see Glyn a lot as he earns his money trying to make purse out of a sows ear. Oh, and the racing will be crap but a few people will tell us how they spotted the potential for new racing lines appearing all over the place. Mick.

Talking of centre green presenting, I had this vision of Dave Darcy being the only person in Popples & Sensicall's 'Dave Darcy' stand, everyone else being too embarrassed to now sit in it, and Popple or Sensicall asking for a cheer from the 'Dave Darcy' stand. Would Dave Darcy still give it a shout and a wave.