dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

but thats exactly how averages and having a points limit works.The reason you have a 3 point reserve is because the top 3 are all 7.5 or above and Wright above 6.5. The Witches 3rd heat leader is at 6 so can have 2 stronger reserves. So naturally the top5 of Somerset should out score the Witches top 5 and the reserves the opposite.

I think its meetings upto and including the 21st with the new figures active from May 1st.

Doolan may be a Witches asset but hardly relevant to 2015!

I think last night was our last before revised averages applicable from May 1st. Now last 20 matches from 2015 and 2014 only. So Stefan for example has no 2014 matches so will get a new average after 4 home 4 away although the regs allow the MC to apply his average from his 6 meetings so far from May 1st if they wish. Nico has averaged 6.18 this year but does have 2014 meetings to include so not sure how his rolling 20 match figure is affected. All the stats have unfortunately disappeared from the BSPA site!! Edit Ritchie ended 2014 well and Gino tailed off. It could be Gino that drops - he will lose 8 possibly higher early season scores.

the regulation is not written differently because of a riders age or nationality. Its about riders without an established match average by the time of May 1st or at the time of a team redeclaring.

unless the MC choose to do the right thing and give MPT and Lambert new averages in line with their performances to date as part of any redeclaration in line with the regulations.The rule is there is just needs to be applied.

isnt it likely to be Robert Lambert soon

Any win at Plymouth so long as we stop Rye getting a point.

Although these is provision for a new average to be applied even if the 4 home 4 away is not reached. Perhaps needs to be applied where there may be a re-declaration. The new calculations have disappeared from the BSPA site - hope they come back soon. Wouldn't want it to seem like anything is being hidden to slide through any dodgy changes!!

Great result - well done boys! Never thought Id feel disappointed with a draw at Sonerset though! Need to stop Rye getting a point and then win at Plymoutg to top the group.

yeah - about 2 panels after it ends. It may just be my imagination but I think thats just about where it ended when it was first installed. Certainly seems to have shrunk over the years.

what a load of complete tosh!!

I think Ritchie is borrowing an engine from Danny after his problems last night.

R/R for Gino makes Rohan the key man for me. If we are to get any kind of positive result he needs to provide solid back up to Danny whom you would expect another decent score from as a matter of course.On last nights showing he looked quick and keen. With Starke out it does provide a chink of hope that the lower end could take advantage of. It is just hope though and not expectation. Up the Witches!

Agree with Baldyman that it wasnt the best of meetings - only 2 or 3 flashes of real excitement. Probably partly down to having both Gino and Newman have to pull out very early on - that sort of thing always puts a dampner on proceedings. Fingers crossed they are both OK. Good win even if only as expected. 'Lost' his first choice engine on the parade which cant have helped.

Best average match points for 2nd. So if 2nd in our group gets say 16 points then a team from one of the other groups would need 13+.

his little magic switch allowing him to alter the ignition timings mid race is what I think Roland is alluding to.I dont think the switch itself was ruled illegal - just not allowed to use it DURING a race.

very good point - one I hadnt thought of.

if you think like that you would never leave the house and then you would worry that the roof will cave in.

Even with a win at Plymouth (which certainly isnt a given) we may well still need at least point from the Somerset visit.

Should be comfortable by at least 20 but cant take anything for granted. Its the away meetings that will decide our qualification fate.

and we thank you very much for it! PS at least he made it look like he was trying - its not just penalties the Germans are better than the English at.!!

injured in a pre season challenge so presumably not considered part of the official first declaration is the way it appears.Good that you acknowledge MPTs inclusion as outside the regs. Will be interesting to see if the MC choose to invoke the reg that IS in the book updating averages of MPT and Lambert before 4 home 4 away should a redclaration take place before May 1st. Would seem strange to use a rule that isnt in the book whilst choosing not to use one that is.

accepted - so infact Roynon was never in the official first declaration therefore MPT isnt actually a replacement at all.Of course MPTs average at 4.92 goes against regs 18.6.3 and 18.6.4. There is no provision to use his previous figure. He will be gaining a new 4 home 4 away average and 16.2.9 means the MC may issue a revised MA based upon actual rides if the team redclares.

Lots of talk about retaining MPT but surely its not as simple as that. Currently he is just a temporary injury replacement and not in the formal declared 1-7 so to include him he has to be part of a redclaration. At that point there is provision to reassess his average even if he hasnt done 4 home and 4 away. Given that the formula for rolling averages from May will not include 2013 meetings even if that means using under 20 matches there is a chance the MC could choose to do that.