dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

so the Aussies are shooting themselves in the foot on this one.A number of double counts in there along with quite a few which qualify under residency or average achievement etc.

Havent all the state championships been run (whilst Poole was still injured - wink) On that is anyone in a position to post all the top 4 state results from this season? Edit - Just to add as well - many out of state riders compete in each championship. Do out of state riders count in the 4? Could a state decalre its highest 4 finishers in those places for 'official' use re visa application for example.

but nowhere does it state the average has to be attained if the other criteria are met.If the injury prevented him from competing in his stare championship the exemption COULD apply there. I am not claiming this is right or fair just pointing out that the wording is so ambiguous and wooly you can take it to mean almost anything to suit.

Rohans was the Lemo farewell with a much higher calibre.

the GBE info is easy to find on the BSPA site but is stated as relating to 2009 and is inconsistent against the 2014 regs. IF you do go by them the injury caveat doesnt state the rider had to be above 7 at any time. It simply states exemption where injury has prevented the rider. Returning from or suffering a new injury isnt specified so either COULD apply. For Poole infact both could apply as he broke a leg both before and after his Sheff stint.

Taylor Poole could potentially be exempt due to the injury clause.

Exactly my point and also why I earlier mentioned Tasmania is Oz. If there hasnt been a solo championship there the same could apply if MA want to assist 4 Aussies who currently may not qualify.

Also does the state championship have to be held in the state itself? Is there anything to stop theUS tagging on a heat to a meeting in California and sanctioning it as the Texas state championship therefore gifting 4 qualifications?

and this is where without revision of the criteria then NO American will ever fail to meet the criteria so long as the AMA have any kindof pkanning for Speedway - just need to hold the right number of state championships even if there are only 4 entrants to each! Edit Do they hold a Tasmanian state championsip in Oz?? If not theres four places going begging there and still time to stage one!

The U21 title criteria has certainly been quoted - if its a red herring fair enough. Must confess cant quote Ginos position in state/nationals but given the number of US riders at any kind of level unless he didnt compete would expect he may qualify there. I didnt say he should arbitarily get a 7 to be able to qualify. IMO Gino is worthy and does add to the PL. However if he doesnt meet the criteria then so be it and we look elsewhere. I have championed pro Brit quotas etc so it would be wrong to argue otherwise. Its that kind of 2 faced/Im alright Jack thinking that has been part of the problem. whoops - he slipped my mind! Edit just looked at GBE section on BSPA site and see no U21 mentioned. Also seems quote "to be abke to ride in 2009" at the top so is it correct? Perhaps there will have been revisions following the workshops. After all there have been indications that the morning was spent with individual promiters whilst the afternoon was a meeting of representatives of UKVI and the management committee.

Manzares is the only American requiring a visa. He met the criteria as national U21 champion and has only had one season. Doesnt the criterua state to achieve the average in 2 years? So even if you apply the 7 (rather than the 5 he arrived on) needing to be achieved he has 2015 to do so. As it stands it doesnt state any rider has to retain the assessed average in the 2nd season if not achieved in the first so he would return on his 6.Now this may change going forward(and probably should IMO) but we wont know until full details of the reissue of sponsors licences is confirmed along with any new requirements which need to be adhered to to avoid the problem again. Now ironically of course if he has to come on a 7 Ipswich may choose to keep him and it may mean a Brit loses a place lower down.

Meeting at Pinjar in Perth. Field included Jake Allen Josh Bates Arthur Sissis MrBeerhut may have a few etra details

Without wishing to devalue a serious and important topic but that description fits one or two that havent had a bang to the head! w

Without wishing to devalue a serious and important topic but that description fits one or two that havent had a bang to the head! w

dont get me wrong I wanted Adam to have a place. My point was that Gino isnt a direct swap as he is 1.5 higher than Adam so it could be argued Adam couldnt do the job Gino is due for.Now if Ritchie didnt have a place he could argue that case as his average is much closer to Gino.

although looking how the averages fit it is actually Ritchie that has the place that may have gone to Adam.

thats certainly the day that has been quoted on many threads.Not heard if its just a one off or the first of a series of days though.

chose???

Good news - lets hope he hets a few chances and manages to take them.

The more snippets of info you pick up the more it seems that Speedway has been lucky to be given the tolerance it has been so far. It certainly isnt a knee jerk reaction. I understand sponsors are graded and those with an exemplary record are effectively just rubber stamped without check except for random dip testing. If they are found in breach their sponsor status is downgraded and further applications will be more likely to be scrutunised. After repeated issues the UKV&I have finally had enough.

Terrible name! Perhaps if they pick up sponsorship from Campbells and change it to the Souperleague it would seem better. wink

Although if the PL werent able to 'take a punt' on a few then the EL woukd also be affected as very few are of the standard for them to go straight in at that level. Therefore there does need to be some tolerance in the system which should be realistic criteria. That probably has been about right. There will always be those that bomb out. Where the tightnening needs to be is allowing them to continueon lower averages and clubs getting tge admin right.

it will be interesting to see if Arsenal manage to gain a permit for the uncapped Brazillian they are currently persuing.

cant help with the poll but couldnt resist a suggestion re the gender split. Going by a certain thread in the general discussions it could well be more like 59/40/1.

I posted on the Glasgow thread at the time the takeover was announced that any 'new money 'promotion' seem to be seen as a cash cow for the 'old guard'. This looks like a good squeeze of the udders to me! In the current climate even the top EL riders are not worth that sort of money IMO.