dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

So how did Pboro sign the likes of North and Poole? Assets but unused. Bellego on the other hand despite actually riding for a PL club was not an asset when he moved due to not having ridden enough meeting to qualfy. Adam Ellis signed by Lakeside -unused until tested out in PL and found to be a good prospect. For him to have been an asset of a PL club he wouldve neeed to ride the min number of meetings.

Partly agree with the principle of what you say. However the garnering of assets has been skewed in the favour of the EL in the past with them signing riders without usuing them and loaning to PL - something the PL clubs werent able to do. That didnt neccessarily mean any significant investment (financial or otherwise) on the EL side but means they have more assets. Only in the last couple of years has this changed and even then you hear the suggestion that tge likes of Kurtz are actually Poole riders for example even though its not technically possible.

that makes sense - so basically an EL stitch up whilst they had the chance!

What seems surprising is that the PL clubs would vote for this. Would take 3 to side with the EL sides (assuming it was a single vote) What would they gain to make it worthwhile?

Are we going to start the who owns Blackbird debate again? wink!

Beerhut is looking at guest options for King not listing tge PL clubs looking for a guest that day.The PL clubs are those not riding.

I dont think so but give it time!

unless the Witch is a BSPA asset it seems though!

but it is double UP not double DOWN.The cause is of course the bastardisation of the original principle of giving up and comers the chance to try EL with less risk. As soon this changed problems were bound to occur. The fast track effectively covers the original DU aim now.

Lets see what sort of delays we get from unsatisfactory starts through riders snaking out of the gate from unsuitable/unprepared ruts.

So he qualifies and is arguably as deserving a case as you are likely to find in the current set up.

couldnt resist! wink FWIW I think the accepted criteria is 10 years on 1 clubs books with any year away included so long as there has been no transfer request. Pjiper probably qualifies under that and as many have said its down to personal choice who attends. Whether the criteria should be stricter is a different matter. Personally Id say yes. A testimonial should be an exceptional 'honour' rather than the norm as it is becoming.

Its poor that it isnt clear to all. The fact that even Chris wasnt sure points to the fact that the situation was/is under review. You wouldve thought that shouldve been finalised at the AGM but seems not! We will all find out when the first clash occurs!

Stick with Ritchie as captain IMO With King I would hope and expect the Witches get priority. It called double UP after all.

40-30 deuce advantage Mr G

International competitions are grantedspecific agreements for the event only I believe.

Morten plus say Morley in place of Gino and Stefan would fit. As likely as any switch! wink

at present it is being mooted that Manzares is OK albeit that a revision in criteria must be in place if that is true. Thats the only possible issue for the Witches so Leigh returning doesnt seem likely at present. Be careful what you wish for Lewy if its to wind up the Rebels - if a recall does happen it could be Morten!

Given his rolling average is calculated over 24 meetings so around 110 rides this equates to being 2 race points short.One EF or one failed team ride in 110 races could mean he is out! Harsh if so but there has to be a line somewhere.

Dont disagree with any of that per se.I only picked up a short radio interview which of course was all one side (his) Ultimately it is the responsibilty of the individual (or club in Speedway) to ensure they follow the correct protocols or risk repercussions.

A bit like Lanham for Holder at Somerset

To be fair I expect that once the 2015 regs are published they will include any updated info. Whilst it would be nice to know the details I suppose at present its just for those that need to know just like a number of other tweaks!!

Nor does Heeps and he is WA state champ anyway. If you are looking for something to put Speedways woes into perspective then look out in the news for a story concerning Brian Crane. A former US military sargeant and lately a civillian security consultant at Lakenheath airbase. So no question of character or skills. He faces possible depotation following inadvertently missing his visa renewal date and despite having a British family. On discovery of his error he had to resign on the spot leaving his family with little income and they are likely to have to sell their home if he is deported. Ironically they then face equally difficult issues if looking to obtain US visas if they are to follow him.

i think frostylion (and others going by other theads) are aware that revisions to the criteria have been made following the BSPA workshops/meeting with UKVI.Its just that as yet us mere mortals dont know what they are! (yet)

but he started with a sub 4 point PL average which is allowed.Adam is at 4 55 which isnt unless the regs are amended.