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Hasnt been at his best this season and while i agree he would spice it up and be a contender i think the likes of Iversen Zagar and Pedersen would deserve a pick far more. That leaves the one place that in my mind will be Hampel or Kildemand

In one way or another, Janowski, Pawlicki, Iversen , Zagar and Pedersen will be in next years series either by rights or a wildcard. Iversen Zagar and Nicki are GP regulars who have always been top 8 so all 3 in my eyes would deserve to have a wildcard, when you consider how many Lindgren and Jonsson have had over the years. Janowski and Kildemand could be at risk though i think Magic will be top 8. Would Kildemand get the last spot? Have they ever put 4 wildcards back in who rode in the previous year? I would pick Zagar over Kildemand as i believe Zagar should be given 1 opportunity after his years in the GP You then have the conundrum of Hampel and Emil. Its fair to say Hampel should get one after his injury and he has rode well since coming back. Emil great talent but i would make him qualify personally. So if the top 8 stays as it is now i would have Iversen, Zagar, Pedersen and Hampel

completly misunderstanding what I'm saying. The sheer ability and talent of these guys in a watered down elite league will always see the likes of Holder and Jonsson towards the top of the averages. They simply don't have their best stuff here or prepare properly for it. The year after Mark Loram was world champion he rode for Peterborough in the UK and I believe Luxo stars in Sweden and a big move toBydgoszcz in Poland. All 3 were new clubs. I can categorically tell you that he was on very big money in Poland almost treble that in the UK. If he didn't perform he wasn't paid or under threat of the sack. Sweden paid him more as well. 100% Mark had his best engines out in Poland. He was riding big tracks as a home club in the UK and Poland but he never used his Polish engines over here. His average in the UK went down and not through effort but through importance. It went on them and it goes on now

I think Pawlicki will be top 8 and now that Freddie is through it opens up the wildcard situation. Iversen will be one and Nicki another which would stop Bjerre getting in. 2 other places are very open in my eyes.

Lindgren will be in next year no matter what. He will be either 8th, a wild card or qualify from tonight. Pawlicki will either be top 8 or wildcard as well. If Bjerre wins he deserves his place as he has qualified by right.

Its nothing to do with effort its to do with machinery choices and money basicallly. If you get paid double in Poland what you do in England where would your best bikes be??? Where would your top pit crew be??? Its not rocket science that the elite league is seen as an after thought by some of the top guys. Holder Iversen Zagar Jonsson, none of those really pulling up any trees over here and riders like Janowski and Pawlicki soon disappear when they realise they could be close to being a world champ. Fair play to Doyle who is loving his speedway life and seems to want to ride every day of the week. He has signed for 2 more years but i have to wonder if his form will dip in that time. Of course ability wide the likes of Holder and Iversen will always win races but its not always lack of effort its just that its not important

100% right, the forums biggest stirrer and troll says something that everyone believes its brilliant! Oh and for those wondering my original source was Norrie Allan.................i await Shovlar to give us his

yeah i agree, as i said the edr has worked from time to time just not all the time. And yes its one thing getting easy rides in the elite league but it doesnt bring them on hugely. Kyle Newman is a case in point. Been at reserve for what 6 years now and in that time cant even hold down a heat leader berth at Premier League level. He has stalled in his progress while Worrall and Garrity have flown past him. I think the EDR has been massive for Worrall who was a few years back thinking of quitting. By winning a few races the confidence comes back. But you are right talent and ability will always come through but i do think the EDR does help some riders

Spot on. Jacobs and Ellis this season have come on in leaps and bounds. Ellis was already some way ahead of Jacobs at the start of the season for some trying to compare the 2. Even riders like Clegg at Wolves have come on as well. The system does work form time to time as proven by the success of Garrity and Worrall But then you also get those who have just stalled like Howarth and Newman

I think people are missing the point: Yes Poole could have brought in Pedersen as a reserve replacement So im in no doubt kyle didnt touch the tapes deliberatly However the point remains that a tape touch should put the team of the rider that did that at a disadvantage. Poole were arguably stronger in the re run so therefore the exclusion didnt in anyway penalise Poole. Before the usual outcry , Poole did nothing wrong, but this is a rule that needs looking at. Either Newman should have gone from 15 metres (as he would have had to in heats 2 or 12) or if they feel the other reserve is going better then bring him in but off of 15 metres as well.

a la exactly the same as Shovlar. I have a very reliable source thanks

As usual the Poole troll is totally wrong. I have a source as well and Team GB money has nothing to do with Tai's reasons. Darcy was messing around on facebook just love the way the usual band of fools jump on it. Let Shovlar continue his Tai crusade it just shows him up for what he is

I find it hilarious that the Poole troll has a pop at the Wolves track! Obviously he missed the highlights of the Lakesude meeting for example. Reckons people only pass at Wolves if the away rider makes a mistake lol. Seem to remember a recent meeting on sky and all the riders were hitting ruts and shooting across corners! Wolves is a great track with lots of lines. Some people seem to think speedway is all about riding flat out! Well Wolves regularly provides better racing than every track in the league and to say that Poole is second only to Belle Vue is total crap

you apparently don't know if I've posted as you have blocked me yet when you win you immediately use my name!!! I predicted a Poole win even stating what the riders would score and pretty much got it spot on. Thank you for your concern thank you just seems some people don't think before they post

OOPS I said Poole by 10 but it was 11. Most of what I predicted came true but to be fair most of it was obvious Again to easy to predict The Worrall brothers got 15 last time, switch roles and they get 9 Poole reserves beat their counterparts 18-5 Buck and KK got 19 between them Blatantly obvious to anyone that Poole are still hot favourites for the league. Only a troll would disagree Ellis and Kurtz still a concern though.

Last time against Belle Vue Kurtz and Ellis got 8 from reserve and Pedersen and Newman got 9 from the main body. Steve Worrall got 12 from reserve last time and Richie 3 from the main team. Jacobs got 1. I would expect the Poole reserves tonight Pedersen and Newman to get 13 or 14 between them minimum and the Belle Vue reserves maybe 8. I would also expect Ellis and Kurtz to get more than 9 between them as well. Add in last time Hans and Joonas got 15 and this time its a stronger pair in Buck and KK, then i would expect Poole by at least 10. As i said earlier this is speedway it doesnt pan out the way it should, but the riding order tonight is more beneficial to Poole then it was last time. (i.e Newman not at heat leader and Holder not waste at 4)

i fancy Poole by 10 especially as they will be stronger with KK in for the 'injured' Hans. Holder should outscore Zagar Ellis is good at home so should outscore Steve Worrall KK is better than any of Nicholls Cook and Fricke. I would expect Kurtz to do better than Fricke Buck has been poor so his score may prove pivotal. Newman and Bjarne should outscore their direct opposition. Obviously all the above wont happen but the majority will which would see a Poole win

ah bless you little boy misreading my post. I said it would be a huge loss of Ellis was missing at home. That's called praise dear boy. Now run along sweet cheeks

Yes his dad who blocked me because i said Bates had been better than Ellis internationally and that in my mind that was enough to have him as reserve for the world cup. Apparantly i wasnt allowed to have that opinion. Some people are just so touchy. Obvious that Adam has been better in the league and never said otherwise. Shame his dad got silly really as its good to see a former Witch make progress

Does the rules allow Ellis to ride for Poole or Eastbourne? The form Ellis is in at home it would be a big loss

I think Poole will have 2 much for Belle Vue at Wimborne Road. Ellis is a bit of a liability away but at home he is a strong second string and i would expect Bjarne and Newman to outscore their opposing numbers easily enough. The only issue is that Ellis should be lining up for Eastbourne Fricke isnt great at Poole and if KK rides i would fancy Poole to win by 10. I would fancy Poole to beat Belle Vue over 2 legs I would fancy Belle Vue to beat Wolves over 2 legs I would fancy Wolves to beat Poole over 2 legs. No idea who would win the league though i would love the countrys biggest club, Belle Vue, to be back on top

Hello Mcfly!! He tried to hire some tracks and didnt get help. The authoritys wouldnt offer help either.

Keep up sweet cheeks, there was no help in setting up the training schools. I have been told that he requested a number of tracks to help and one in particular wanted to have ride and slide days as they call them rather than do the training schools. He had no help from the powers that be. Tai couldnt possibly be at every training school and help in setting them up and running them wasnt forthcoming

Team GB have been paid the same for years and this year was no different. Tai knew the pay deal and hasnt moaned about it once according to my source. He hasnt quit Team GB due to the payments at the world cup but for other reasons including the lack of support for training schools.

And thats how it should be. Speedway at the highest level is about the individual not a team. I see your are not worried about the other top boys not riding here or the fact that the level of form displayed by Holder, Jonsson, Iversen and Zagar are down on where they should be. This is because the UK isnt a priority to them, why you dont get this is beyond me. The only rider doing it at a high level everywhere is Doyle, and i wouldnt mind betting that if he isnt world champion this year that he will sit out the UK next season as he strives to be World Champion. Tai is riding in the leagues that give him the best opportunity to be World Champion on tracks similar to the GP's. Same as the vast majority of the GP field.