Gavan

No there wont be huge gaps for riders to come in as its already been mooted that they will look at the limit at the first set of averages. This will stop riders deliberately lowering their averages you may not think much of me but Robert72 has shown his vile character many times either about Darcy or Tai and try to kid everyone he once rode. As said Darcy is still a bit of a brat despite the tragedy that occured but in this case he has nothing to answer for

See what i have highlighted? Then please go back over the posts on the thread and highlight where i 'have screamed' about his average please. Hans Andersen has an average of 10.01 My original post was i believe he will lose nearly 2 points off of that average. Gater1 disagreed with me and in his words said he would maintain his average 'no sweat' I highlighted that last season he averaged 7.15 from second string and top 5 combined so how on earth could he improve to 10.01 Gater1 backtracked and said ' no 10 points a meeting' I then told him that 10 from 5 rides is an 8ish average so i was correct in saying he will lose 2 points. Gater1 then said he was talking about 7.15 starting average not 10.01 We were talking about 2 different starting averages (though i have no idea why anyone would use 7.15 ) Not sure why you feel the need to get involved

Can't see anything wrong with what Darcy has said to be honest. He is still a bit of a fool irrelevent of the tragedy that happened to him but in this case there is nothing to be seen here! Case closed

why would anyone talk about maintaining an average that isn't being used??

your backtracking so fast it's unreal. I said Hans would lose 2 points of his starting average. You honestly think I was saying he would lose 2 points off of 7.15 making him 5.15??? Course you didn't. You get found out , you were wrong and now your using 7.15. Forget that average it doesn't exist!!! its hilarious mate!

ah I see your now backtracking so much you want to use an average that isn't even being used anymore?? His REAL average is 10.01. You want to use last seasons average to try and make you look right. You have the audacity to call me an idiot.

so your now saying he will maintain his 7.15 average?? Well if he does Poole will be at the foot of the table as your number 1 needs more than that lol. Ive said he will lose 2 points off of his average of 10.01 do you agree?? I ask because you expect him to get 10 points which is about an 8 average?

sorry what's your point?? Join in the debate about Hans average if your intellect will let you sorry it's hard to deal with people who either can't see there error or simply won't acknowledge it

nope Gavan did not say it would be tougher for experianced riders. Please highlight where I did thanks. I simply said Hans would lose up to 2 points from his average. Your exact words were he would maintain his average no sweat. You then realised his average was over 10 and backtracked and said it would be 10 points a meeting which from 5 rides is an average around 8, this 2 points of his average as I correctly stated. Stop fabricating that I said it would be tougher. You have been caught out and now make up stuff

Bit disappointed that Barker not coming back but I think Chris is looking for a bigger hitter. Sarj may well retain his place and then another 5.5 rider to replace Morten. I would imagine Chris has someone lined up for Ben. Could be Schlien who goes well at our place

thank you for admitting you were wrong it's good to know you realised your mistake. You clearly stated Hans would maintain his average 'no sweat' was the exact words you used. You have now completely backtracked and said Hans will get 10 points a meeting. Well assuming you mean 10 from 5 rides I will let you do the calculation as to what that makes his average (a little clue, it's very close to 8.00). So when you said I was wrong that Hans could drop 2 points off his average you are now agreeing with me. Thank you for proving me right

Hans averaged 7.15 from riding second string for some time last season as well as a heat leader. I expect from riding at number 1 the whole time in an easier league (possibly) that he should get over 8. That's almost 2 points off his average.

your are making no sense at all as usual!! You think Hans Andersen will maintain his average yes? Ok is that the 10.01 average he has now which he has no chance of maintaining.......or the 7.15 from last season which will not be enough from a number 1???? You quite clearly quote ' I never said he would average over 10 but maintain his average'. So please enlighten me as to what you mean??

not wrong clown. Hans average was just over 7 and the baulk of his high scores were from number 4. He did have some decent scores from heat leader but ultimately he finished the season below 8 when he rode second string and then heat leader. Now all of a sudden he is expected to ride as an out and out number 1 and you think he will maintain a 10 point average!!!

Hans Andersen will never in a million years obtain an average over 10 next season!!! You are talking absolute tosh as usual. As pointed out 9 from 5 rides is just over a 7 average. He will possibly average over 8 but your more foolish than Starman if you think he will get over 10!

Why are Poole fans on a Swindon thread? We constantly get told to go back to our own clubs if we dare to chat on a Poole thread! Seems to me some of them are worried about their inability to keep a world class rider like Swindon have done and are a tad jealous lol

from second string early on was banging in 9 or 10 points most meetings. When put into the heat leader role he was scoring 6 and 7. So he will definatly drop 2 points off his average I would say........oh just like Holder would have done

ah yes when he was riding at number 4.

So Holder says the averages have forced him out erm no it's your team don't want you. All the fools saying Holder couldn't maintain his 12 point average but yet are happy for a rider on the downgrade to be their number one on an average above 10! Hans will do well to average 8. Big mistake without Holder. Doyle will get Swindon 14 or 15 most meetings and from heat 10 onwards you need a big hitter. Hans will go missing a lot and will do well to get double figures in most meetings. His last 4 scores at home riding as a heat leader were 6, 6, 7, 6 hardly number 1 material!

Doesn't say he wants to ride for Poole and Poole only. Let's see if Belle Vue want him?? Bit rich coming from someone who couldn't be arsed to support British speedway in 2013.

Yep Kyles could , maybe Brady maybe Bates. but have a look at most teams top 5, 1 and at best possibly 2 may improve their starting average. Those riders who solely rode elite league last season will have to improve hugely to achieve the 1.4 multiple conversion and the top boys converting their premier league averages will also not maintain. The only riders are those who are awful in the premier (Newman and Bates) who may improve but not if they arent in reserve. Zagar, Fricke, Nicholls, KK, Harris, Pedersen, Iversen, Doyle, AJ, Nilsson, Morris, Thorsell. all rode elite league only and all will see their averages drop. Howarth, Tungate, Josh G, Lawson, Worrall, Kennett, Cook, King, all coming in on last seasons premier average and again will struggle to maintain them. If you can find 5 riders who will up their average (forget 3 pointers) then you will have done very well correct , Chris Holder fell out with Matt Ford as has been well documented on this forum by those Poole fans in the know. He doesnt care much for the Poole track either. Points conversion is a nice excuse for him to leave. Hans Andersen as Poole number 1 , racing Doyle 3 times , no chance

correct if Doyle rides for Swindon and Holder , Zagar and Iversen dont ride over here then Doyle should be good for 14 or 15 points every meeting and that is a massive amount. every team , and 90% of riders will drop their average thats a fact.

course he doesnt , hmmm tell me again he he was able to get Newman last season?

im confused by people saying Holder couldnt maintain his average! Its the same across the board! ALL elite league riders have had an average increase and premier league averages come across Could King and Cook as 2 examples maintain their averages?? 90% of riders will lose up to 2 points minimum on their averages so surely its relative. Poole have got Newman on a very good average and to be fair Jack Holders is good to. Missed a trick not signing Chris to help his brother. Holder snr Holder jnr Ellis Newman Kurtz Leaves roughly 8.5 for 2 other riders or take Kurtz out have a 9 pointer and then a 4 and 3 pointer. Holder, 9 pointer, Ellis or Jack would be a strong enough heat leader trio. They would get near enough 30 points a meeting minimum.

How is the system punishing British youngsters? They all got an average based on their performances last season??? Garrity, Newman, Auty, Starke, Ellis, Howarth, Lambert. All their averages reflect their ability do they not? If you ask me last season was worse for the youngsters, if they did well in reserve they were put up in the 1-5 and Poole as an example could have the Aussie champ and Bjarne at reserve! How is that good for the youngsters??? Ellis has a fair average, nicely complemented by the fact Newman is on a low one for a rider for his ability