Gavan

So you are suggesting that Tai chose GB because he was worried he wouldnt get in the gp's. Stop talking claptrap. He would back himself to do anything he is that confident. Who was the Aussie squad when Tai made his decision then? Crump, Adams, Sullivan? 3 riders who would have been retiring not long after Tai came through then basically a young Holder. Your quite correct saying Tai could have choose GB or Australia but to say he chose GB to get an easier route in is absolute rubbish

i take it that you are just goading as usual. Anyone with half a brain knows the elite league is a 2 horse race and will be the most boring league ever. I'm off to Foxhall Saturday night to see a decent meeting thanks not the elite league borefest

how did your rider Chris Holder get on in the Aussie champs this year??

strange post. The British final doesn't mean anything much anymore because of 2 reasons. Firstly it is no longer a stepping stone along the world championship stage. Riders who have had a poor 2 or 3 rides now know they can't win it or even be a wildcard. In the old days 6 points may have got you through to the Commenwealth Final so it was cut and thrust. Also the depth of talent means it isn't a showpiece anymore. Who outside of Tai Cook Nicholls and Harris could win it?. I went to my first final in 1990. Tatum Cross Doncaster Havelock Wigg Dugard Loram Louis Thorp Silver Screen, the list of quality went on and on. To get to the final was an honour we had quarter finals back then such was the number of riders. Now we have the field made up of premier league riders. Tai is the first rider of any note I can remember pulling out since Mark Loram so your claim the riders are devaluing it is rubbish. You also state that Tai was always going to win it. Really???? 5 races yes maybe but when its a sudden death final the other 3 top boys could all beat him or did you not see the first attempt of the final last year??

What a bunch of pig ignorant head in the sand people there are on this forum. Tai is British, he was born here his parents are British. They chose to emigrate and obviously at that age Tai had to go with them hardly his fault where he grew up. You fools on here somehow expect him to have no affinity with Australia!! Of course he will love the place he made many friends there. He chose to ride for the UK his parents are British and he considers himself British like his parents are. If you don't like Tai as a person that's fine we don't like everyone, I was never a big Tatum fan, but to simply keep going on and on about he usnt even British is just being a lemming and joining up with the idiots. Once again I ask people have you seen the dates of the semis and final??????? Understandably he doesn't want to be injured. He is a Brit through and through who also loves the country he grew up in what is wrong with that!!!!! As we all say Mark Loram was born in Malta. Didn't see to many people moaning that he rode for Team GB!!! By the pathetic responses on here Mark should have ride for his country of birth then shouldn't he!!!! Those who also say Tai chose GB because he couldn't get in the Aussie team are also talking tosh. Tai as a character backs himself to be the best at anything so he would have fought tooth and nail anyway. Some sad people on here that I would suggest should stay away from Cardiff

Some people on here need to look at the bigger picture! All I'm reading is he isn't even British which is just an absurd an easy way to bash him. How often did Holder and Ward do the Aussie champs? Where was Holder this season? The Aussie champs aren't eveb in GP time so no excuses for him not to ride. Nicki Pedersen misses the Danish Champs nothing is said. Greg Hancock doesn't do the Us Champs. Sorry but there are some pathetic bunch of losers on here just looking for the bad in Tai and time after time being up his nationality which just shoes how incredibly thick some of you are. Not one of you people having a go have even bothered to mention the dates of the semis or the final itself! Have you seen the dates or is it easier just to join in with the in crowd and have a whinge. One of you are trotting out 'it's just one more meeting in his schedule, yes it is, smack bang before a GP. Some of you who call yourselves speedway fans are a joke. And do you honestly think more people go because he would have rode??? I doubt it. We followed Mark Loram everywhere but we still went to the British Final when he missed out in 1993.

You are really a very sad and quite pathetic individual. Mark Loram turned down the British Final one year was that ok with you? You ok with Scott Nicholls and the late Lee Richardson not wanting to ride for their country? Or was that ok because they didnt grow up in Australia? Look at the bigger picture. British Semi Final 1 is the day before a GP and British Semi Final 2 is just after. The British Final is also just before a GP Tai would no doubt be looking to have recieved a wildcard to the final and then with an important GP around the corner maybe still wouldnt have risked it. He has been champion 3 times. The bigger goal is the World crown. Wouldnt it be nice if our only chance of a world champion was injured in the British Semi or Final itself and therefore couldnt then compete!! He is giving himself the best opportunity to be World Champion and the idiots on here like yourself start trotting out the same old crap that he is an Aussie.!! The guy has done nothing but promote British Speedway and has put plans in place and hit out at the way the sport is run in this country to try and change it for the better. Do yourself a favour pal and stop spouting the crap. If Tai gets booed at Cardiff it will be one of the most disgraceful things i will have ever seen in the sport. Will Scott Nicholls get booed when he pulls the Team GB suit on??? You fools saying he should ride would obviously love to see him pole-axed by say an over enthusiastic Garrity and miss 3or 4 GP'S The British Final once was a stepping stone to the World Crown. It isnt now and to run it when they have puts Tai's participation in doubt and i want him to be World Champion rather than British Champion. Maybe the time has come for the final to be early March or a 1 off event at the end of the season and choose a different way to choose the wildcard at Cardiff. You can bet if the British Final was late September Tai would ride spot on mate. absolute clowns on her slagging him off, not understanding why he has done it and trotting out the usual ' he is an Aussie' garbage

Mark Loram was born in Malta so what's your point?? You hate Tai anyway so anything you say on this thread will pretty much be ignored anyway. The rest of us believe its a poor decision but will still support him in the World Cup. This is the one rider who has done more for British Speedway in the last 3-4 years than anyone else

try writing the whole post might help then people can see I meant to type isn't! Predictive text!

The facts are straight forward. Newman has ridden in the reserve berth of an elite league side for 6 years. The reasons are either lack of progress, lack of ambition or he is happy just beating inferior riders week after week. He may be a good second string but that's not saying a lot really. Premier league number ones are third heat leaders like Cook was and King is and Newman is and won't be anywhere near their level. Sure he could improve but he seems happy being a big fish down at reserve

Which is also something Ellis can be prone to. Often overlocked when he rode for us and came off a few times, but may have ironed that out. Roynon would if available be very good cover, but as i say Poole could score 3 duckeggs from the number 7 berth and still beat Swindon away so its not really an issue who replaces Ellis

I agree well done to Newman for getting rides in Poland and as I have already said out of the 2 Garrity is far more reckless. But there is no way in the world that Newman is ahead of Garrity at the moment. All this stuff about Garrity has messed up Coventrys team isn't totally correct. Coventry didnt have to use him did they! They saw his ambition and went with it. Think that You Tube clip shows Newman at reserve in 2011 alongside Nick Morris. Wonder how their careers have gone? Reserve for 6 seasons and now riding against riders he is far superior to isn't doing him any good.

I don't think Garrity will ride for GB either but at that level he is way ahead of Newman for selection. Higher Elite league average, Higher Premier league average. British Final record far superior and possibly should have made a rostrum. Was reserve and had a ride in a GP. Now Garrity wants to make the next step up and race in a 1-5 and put himself against better riders. Newman currently is racing against EDR riders that he is superior to. No GB manager would select a rider who is happy to beat the likes of Sargeant and Bates , basically premier league second strings, over a rider who wants to better himself. What sort of experience is Newman gaining? None! Kyle is the more stylish of the 2 but he is not even close to ever being taken seriously as a rider for the national side. He will though riding in the Poole team win another title but its not doing much for his own career

still saying the same old lines from years ago I see! Poole can replace Ellis with a better rider in Adam Roynon so hardly weakened. Even if they had someone who scored zero from three rides they will still beat Swindon as well you know

not a bad comparison as Janniro had a good career but just short of top class. You would compare Newman to a Ryan Fisher. Elite league reserve who will never be any better than a premier league number 1

The squad is usually 10 riders which should be Tai, Harris, Cook, Nicholls, Lambert, King , Stead, Kennett, Garrity and Auty. After the first 5 we are really struggling. King ,Stead and Kennett are not good enough at international level but they are the next best. Garrity shows ambition and is a better rider than Newman or Howarth. Auty is a premier league number 1 and is also better than Newman

Nice to see Havvy on Twitter talking about Newman. Spot on when he says it's a lack of ambition and the fact the EDR was designed to bring riders through rather than exploit loopholes to keep him at reserve. And as I say Poole have done nothing wrong just as Havvy says lack of ambition from the rider. Garrity will be in the GB squad and Newman has no chance

I didn't post on the Lakeside thread because Lakeside will not win and thrash people in most of their matches like Poole will is it that hard to understand? And no i didn't enjoy the Ipswich v Scunny match because the track was awful with no dirt. Don't have an issue losing I like to see good racing

i apologise it's just that the guy winds me up with his daft comments. Please accept though that I have not once slagged off Ford or Poole , I just feel that it's the worst elite league ever

is it rude to say the elite league looks boring? Go back over my posts. Ive only called the one person a pillock and that is what everyone on here thinks of him. Oh and I will call him what I want as he told me to go out and play with the traffic so if he can dish it out but cant take it im not bothered

dear oh dear you have been told so many times about being a pillock yet you still carry on trotting out the same tripe. Buck is an asset of Frost who is involved with Poole. Now even though you never seem to have the family brain cell I think even you can put 2 and 2 together and see how he ended up at Poole. Quite clearly if Poole wanted Buck he was pretty much likely to line up for them. So please stop waffling on with the same old line of anyone could have had him. In reality his destination was always likely to be only 1 club its a sad state of affairs the way speedway has fallen in this country. The elite league teams have 1 genuine world class rider, then 2 hear leaders who are just about number ones in the premier league followed by second strings who would struggle to be a heat leader in the premier league. Apart from one team whose second strings are the Aussie champion and a rider who is quite clearly a heat leader. And people think I'm going overboard when I say the elite league is watered down and will be the most boring season ever

i agree with 99% of what you write and nothing wrong with enjoying winning, however the gloating needs to be toned down a bit. The sport is on its knees and one team thrashing the others doesnt help the sport. The elite league looks like being the most boring it has ever been and the sport as a whole is suffering. The other teams look like a premier league side from about 5 years ago, not the standard of a so called elite league. As i say Ipswich , my team, thrashed everyone in 1998. The racing on the most part was dull with 5-1 after 5-1 and i was one of many who simply didnt bother going to the meetings against much weaker sides when i knew i was going to watch processional racing. The sport itself suffers if one or even 2 teams are so much further ahead than the others. Poole get decent crowds, i know that, but how many are going to bother going to watch Poole rack up 60 points against the majority of sides? I pick and choose my meetings now due to cost and i wont bother watching Ipswich against say Redcar or Rye House , but when Glasgow are in town with that strong top 4 i will be there. Must be the same for Poole if Leicester or Lakeside are there the crowd wont be as big for when Belle Vue are in town

yes Mark did want to stay at Poole I agree with you and yes he wasn't best pleased. But as I say Tony rode for more money than Mark was offered. Maybe Ford thought Tony was worth more than Mark and being truthful he was. Just don't like people lying that Mark was offered or wanted more than Rickardsson. Everyone has a value

No Mark didnt price himself out. Norrie Allan asked for more money and Poole turned it down, then they signed Tony for more money than Mark wanted. Exactly. Poole paid Tony more then Mark wanted. Spot on! I dont know much about Poole speedway but as i say i know the Loram family well and i know exactly what happened and Tony was paid more than what Norrie wanted Poole to pay Mark

foreverblue you know more about Poole speedway than me by a country mile and we all know Starman knows nothing. As I've said before I know the Loram family and his old mechanic Jorge is also a good friend of the family. My uncle used to sponsor Mark at Hackney at Ipswich and a bit at Kings Lynn. We have his race jacket from his epic British Final win in the run off versus Louis. Also Mark came to both my aunty and uncles funerals. Matt Ford is a businessman and a very good one. He pays his riders what he wishes. I can 100% tell you that Mark asked for more money (or should I say Norrie did) and Poole refused to pay it. Mark then wouldn't sign so Poole went and got Tony. I can also tell you that they paid Rickardsson more than what Mark was asking for that is a fact. As I say Foreverblue you know more about Poole speedway than I could ever wish to know but with things to do with Mark I am in the know. The line was that Tony rode for less than Mark wanted. He didn't.