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Nope Belle Vue won the league not Sheffield … the matches are a qualifying system …. Like the gp’s where the top point scorer isn’t necessarily the winner You might not like system but their is only one league winner and that’s Belle Vue

As an Ipswich fan I’m not worried out of these two who wins just hope for a good meeting …. It’s as long as Sheffield and Poole done win anything then all is good lol

I see your point but with any sort of qualification system there will always be one or two who miss out just like the old world finals did , there will never be a system that guarantees all of the worlds best Id have Zmarzlik, Lambert, Lindgren, Vaculik, Bewley, Holder Michelsen Doyle Lebedevs Fricke Kubera, Dudek Then to me the next set of riders is open and Tai and Kvech would possibly be amongst those

Poole speedway yet again

Oh I agree if it came down to it I would probably prefer Ellis to King as a second string as he is likely to improve …. What I’m sick of is the constant King bashing he is at a certain level and as I said I did better than Ellis from a harder riding position which people seem to forget

Adam Ellis rode all season as second string Danny King rode 95% as a heat leader Danny King got a higher average than Ellis riding in a harder position Yet people want Ellis back but not King … as a second string Danny would be fine This is nothing against Ellis who is be happy to see stay but just to gain perspective

Danny King would be fine back at Ipswich in the right position He isn’t a heat leader and certainly not capable of carrying the team like some fans thought he could when we lost Jason and Emil If Danny King rode at 2 or 4 he would do his job The top 5 is simple Jason , Emil and Brennan as heat leaders And then 2 of Ellis Rew and King at 2 and 4….. personally yes I’d have Rew and Ellis but if one of them was to leave and we had Danny I’d be fine with that

Not ever but you can’t compare Sheffield to Ipswich …. Ok let’s say Doyle and Tai are comparable … you lost Jack for 2 meetings middle of the season when secure in top 4…. We lost Emil for the business end We had Ellis King and Dan Thompson all out injured and all riding with their injuries We when lost Jenkins when he was in form and again at the business end when it’s important Even Rew had one nasty smash at end of the season So no Sheffield has nowhere near the same issues as Ipswich ….. most true fans know Ipswich were unlucky this year but that’s speedway and I’m sure with a full 1-7 we would have seen off Leicester and Sheffield although we would have struggled against Belle Vue as they always thrash us up there!!

Exactly right Riding at number 2 you wouldn’t expect him to beat his partner in 3 of his races and he is up against opposition heat leaders in those so maybe 3 points is the norm in those though he might beat the opposition heat leader and he might get beat by the number 6 …. So some weeks 4 points some weeks 7 … a solid number two rider Blodorn Riss Thompson Lampart Basso Lawson Howarth …. Are the riders who have been riding at two mainly and he is on a par with most of those …. Don’t forget the Sheffield team is top heavy with 4 heat leaders pretty much so the 5th rider will be weaker then say Leicester who have built strength in depth …. People too quick to judge Howarth …… I see the same at my club with fans thinking Danny King should be getting 10 points a meeting …. Our third heat leader will be weaker with Jason and Emil using a lot of points up …. King will get 7-8 most meetings and that’s his job but since we lost the top two some fans think he should have stepped up…. He’s 38 not going to get better but didn’t deserve the stick he got …… that said Brennan for King is a no brainer next season

Poole fans are a different breed

No reason to pick on Abi She has an earpiece with her producer telling her what to do so she has to comply When the Sheffield boys were upset she initially said she was leaving them alone and then was obviously told to try and talk to them I think Abi is fine I think some people just look for an issue doesn’t matter who is presenting the would find flaw Scott and Chris are fine but kelvin does get flustered easily …. With 2 heats to go he said Sheffield need to get two 5-1’s …. Then within a minute said a 4-2 may well do … it’s basic maths to be 8 down with 2 to go to know what’s required

Seems some Sheffield fans are as fickle as some of my fellow Ipswich fans Kyle Howarth is not a 7 point rider so if he gets 5 or 6 a meeting he will have done his job …. Similar Danny King is in Ipswich’s side to get 6 or 7 These 2 riders are not getting any younger and of course aren’t going to improve but their job is to maintain an average not necessarily to improve …. You will never build a team of 7 improvers …… Chris Harris similarly will not regularly bang in double figure scores anymore because he isn’t that level And what’s wrong with the rising stars beaten a second string? Surely that’s the type of rider who could be beat by a rising star?

No I think you lost it last night because the Holder brothers didn’t want to know and even more so after Cook crashed Jack Holder is world number 4 and currently 7th… for him to not win a race and simply follow his partner in all 4 races isn’t good enough… Chris also looked subdued And if there is no issue with the track why didn’t either brother try the dirt line it was like they were too scared to… watch Chris v Vuolas he never wanted to try the outside They scored 11 between them … Thry should possibly be getting that each … you can excuse a poor performance away but not at home And Sheffield fans who were quick to moan about Howarth and Harris have said nothing about the Holder brothers - bit of double standards

You might not see either Holder brother there next season they both can’t hack it when the dirt is that high

It’s so good seeing the cocky club taken down a peg or two … Jack Holder didn’t seem interested and his brother wasn’t much better I guess to win a league Sheffield need 14 riders and alas they couldn’t have that many this year

Bad management not to put Gilkes in 14

Get in there Belle Vue The Holder brothers badly let Sheffield down Nothing better than Sheffield being taken down a peg or two and Belle Vue did it with a rider missing

Tatum thinks Sheffield can win if Belle Vue get a 4-2 lol

Because he knows how dangerous the track is out there

Sheffield fans moaning about Howarth and Harris ….. the only reason they are still in this tonight is because of Howarth and Harris

Shame the league will be decided by crashes at Sheffield

As Scott said they rake it in to the middle of the track which is useless as it goes straight back out there It’s one thing having the balls to ride out there but you have to hang on for dear life … Chris Holder has openly been critical of it

Really? I’m not the only one saying it … listen to Scott explaining the track issues and that riders do not like riding the place

Heat 14 is now Vuolas and Mulford

Agreed…. Who can’t see where the race is developing it was clearly at the back but no the cameras go to the front Backs to the wall for Belle Vue now which is a shame the meeting been ruined for them