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Think your'e banging your head against a brick wall mate. If we staffed the entire league with 70 members of this forum I wonder what he thinks the top twenty averages would look like at the end of the season

He doesn't fail to realise it, it is the basis of his argument, an argument that is 100% correct. You are either not reading the posts or have no grasp of simple maths

To simplify it completely lets go to extremes. Lets have a league of 4 teams with only 1 rider in each team. For arguments sake those riders are Chris Holder, Nicki Pedersen, Greg Hancock and Tomasz Gollob. Now come the end of the season what sort of average would those riders have. In Sidneys world they would easily all have 10 point averages, they are world class riders easily capable of 10 point averages are they not. They couldn't all tend around the six point mark could they, leading the dumber among us to believe they are not as good as a mere second string in the 20 team British League of the 70s

Dont worry, its definitely on ITV 4, with a mega ad campaign each week in between Corrie. I had it confirmed last week

Is it on SKY over here, just sent an e mail to them threatening to cancel if not

What sort of business model is that FFS

I think everyone knows its ITV4 seeing as it was leaked last Thursday

It has as much point as any other of his 168 posts

No more dead money than having a couple of million quid tied up in an asset that only gets used 20 times a year

This is a myth that crops up time and again. For a business that only uses a stadium 20 days a year then renting is by far the best and cheapest option. Its the difference between having a mortgage or renting a house, in lots of circumstances renting is by far the better option. Renting stadia does provide problems with difficult landlords but in an ideal world of totally co operative landlords then Speedways business model is far better suited to renting than owning.

It isn't

The joke went right over your head there did it.

All very confusing, I have just sent an e mail to SKY asking them what is going on

Not a bad top three although I would have them in a different order. Three superbly natural talents on a speedway bike.

FFS

Hell hath no fury like a woman (in this case Speedway Star editor) scorned eh Phil

What a fantastic contribution to the topic

The LA Coliseum wasnt a track in a field but had a dreadful crowd by the standards of the day. Likewise Gothenburg was an OK stadium in a country with a speedway tradition but struggled to break 30,000 by 1984. One off finals, had they been around today, would be lucky to fill Scunthorpe let alone the millenium Stadium

The decline in Poland is simple. They are merely recreating all the mistakes the UK made 20 - 30 years ago. The main one being paying riders over the odds, upping admission to cover it, losing fans and upping admission some more to cover that. Speedways boom there was largely due to fall of communism, it was rather like the post war boom here. Now though Poles have so much more to do with their money and speedway is slowly (although gaining momentum) falling out of favour

Yes Phil I am aware of that, the point I was trying to make is that even if SKY dont broadcast the GPs is there any reason they wont be contracted to provide the world feed as in the last few years

A Cowardly Doper is probably the most apt Ian

I dont see the two are linked at all. Isn't it only the last few years SKY have had the contract anyway. Didn't Chrysalis (now all3Media I think) not have the world feed contract prior to that?

Would providing the world feed and broadcast rights not be separate issues? I cant see any reason why SKY wouldnt be contracted to supply the world feed as they always do at Cardiff

So go back a few years when gates were 3 times (or more) than now. Did those people simply develop amnesia over winter and forget what they used to do on a Monday/ Wed/ Thursday etc night FFS What a wally

All total fantasy, the work of someone refusing to accept where speedway is in the sporting public's perception. You, and many others, seem to think it is simply a lack of awareness as to why no one goes anymore! Anyone with a modicum of marketing nouse could fill a stadium once, even if its the free admission route it showcases your product to thousands. Lakeside did id a few years back and had a reputed 5000 gate on the night. Point is how many of those 5000 liked what they saw enough to be willing to pay to come back the following, and subsequent weeks? Well Lakeside are back to racing in front of one man and his dog so it would appear not many. Worse still is that those 4000 will never ever come back now, they are lost to the sport for ever. Quite simply never ever market a flawed product, you get one chance with a potential customer, blow it and they are lost forever