Byker Biker

How on earth can a club remain open when it hasn't paid it's insurance, medical fees, riders, rent and so much more? Some for months.

The issue in the late 60's and early 70's was that full face helmets had not been ACU approved despite being tested and certified by the stricter American Snell Safety Foundation consequently wearing the proven safer full face helmet earned the rider a £1 fine every meeting it was worn at.

Morris unlikely to be back from Poland

You're assuming of course that they are available ..... if your not paying MPT who is being paid for taking his rides? Have you any idea how long it takes to get a "work permit" for a European rider? ... thought not!

Many of the suggestions on this forum have been tried over the years by "modern thinking" new promotions but there just doesn't appear to be a sustainable level that will improve revenue streams. Sadly many of those promotions left the sport for financial reasons and gave it a bloody good go and others were driven out by the politics. Just look at some of the past efforts put in by; Steve and Vanessa at Oxford, Waggy and Brian Griffin at King's Lynn, Rick and Julie at Peterborough, Stuart Douglas at Lakeside, Peter Oakes at Skegness and it goes on. These people not only put fortunes into the sport but they invested in marketing, corporate entertainment facilities, getting out and about in the community and more. They all believed they could make a difference, we saw some brilliant stuff coming from Waggy and a team at KL to die for so with respect to every contributor on this thread I just don't believe local initiatives are the way forward. I do agree with Mike BV that the sport should be marketed centrally with a national budget but sadly I fear that opportunity is long gone with the mega bucks that were put into the Gerhard GRT engine project.

I think these are separate issues, incentivising someone to make a purchase by offering a discount (even if it is 100%) is common practice no doubt you will remember George English doing an offer through Groupon, it made him bleed and always said never again.

Rick Frost and his team did this at Peterborough, Neil Machin and Nigel Hinchiffe did it throughout Yorkshire, hundreds of free tickets given away and not even double figures utilised. Machin even gave away a free DVD that got them free admission if they showed at at the turnstile.

Which is why Promoters shy away from many of the ideas mooted on this thread. They can't win if they introduce a low cost initiative like free tickets the existing customers harangue them

and if I believe what I was told some current paying supporters joined Unison to gain cheaper admission not withstanding those that joined the National Union of Students to all of a sudden earn concessions which is why Machin binned it.

Sheffield too

I think most of the breeze was blowing up Damien's arz

Lynn is probably the most secure ........

Not Buxton, look back over this thread

God's country, up there? Beeky Chastard

He was kept out of prison when he was younger by Chris Morton and David Gordon who gave him a job learning Speedway. The probation service worked with them because they too believed Jason could be turned around and all the time he was under their influence his nose was relatively clean. Another club poached him and without adequate guidance and supervision he went slowly off the rails again. It's possibly no coincidence that others at that club also ran close to the wire resulting in violence and injury to the point where one of them cannot enter the UK.

Correct

The truth is coming out then?

I did but I'm lysdexic!

Who by?

Absolutely nothing King's Lynn can do either

He always does .......

Always managed to get wet fingers in Worky..................

Maybe just maybe UKVI have some involvement that delays any announcement until all the rubber stamps are in place.......

There is absolutely no obligation whatsoever for a rider to accept a guest booking, some riders who are young in their careers have day jobs too so getting time off for a guest booking can be a challenge. Please don't assume that a rider is available for a guest booking just because that rider is not riding anywhere that day and heaven forbid that Keith is blooding one of his younger assets by giving him track time at this level.

"Do us a favour Keith, can you send a couple of photos of a busted gate and a bit of fence? They must have bent a post so one of that as well then we can can kill all this crap on the internet. It's better than you feigning a heart attack or pulling the distribution board stunt they've been done to death as have the sun off and burst water bowser. Oh by the way when you pulled the distribution board stunt did you know that CEF keep the parts in stock? (Just in case you need to go again with something) - I'd suggest an archeological find next time, nobody's done that yet!"