Byker Biker

I really cannot understand why so many experts on broadcasting and running a Speedway are all in the same place at the same time surely you should be running your businesses not pratting about on a forum!!!!! Unless you understand broadcasting rights, licensing and the differences between: a production company, a primary, secondary and tertiary rights holder, news rights or a broadcaster then all of this has no validity in my opinion. Philip Rising has tried to give some informed pointers but deaf ears and stoney ground spring to mind ! So frustrating.

I have been at all ends of this situation and can understand all of the views of those involved however my problem is the lack of consistency applying penalties and the arbitrary way they are dished out. For every rule that can be broken the rule book could carry the applicable penalty, if we use the specific example in this thread then in my opinion the box is sacrosanct and entry should carry the maximum £300 fine so if the rule was written something like "Entering the SCB Official's refereeing position is forbidden and carries the maximum penalty of £300 unless specifically requested to enter by the duly appointed SCB Meeting Referee". That way everyone knows exactly what it's gonna cost them to approach the Ref at his work station. For minor offences the rule could specify for example "A breach of this regulation carries a penalty of £25 during NDL events, £50 for CL and £100 for PL" It's not hard to grade the offences and provide a league scale which will remove any suggestions of bias and those offences for which a penalty cannot be predetermined then everybody gets there *rse out of bed and trots off to Rugby to deal with it. I shat myself when I had to go to the RAC Club in Pall Mall to explain a recurring offence.

The owner of the club is the BSPA !!!!!!

Interesting that you are straight in to team building, surely the priority has to be to secure the sport at Owlerton and that may mean having to support a "mediocre" team until the promotion stop haemorrhaging and that is what is likely to give them the incentive to carry on. With some TV money swishing about next year it may be a lesser risk to race at the higher level but not try to buy the trophy and race for a sensible league position instead. I'm not a fan of the Bates' at all but I would give them an opportunity to regroup then go again with at least a chance of covering their costs so keeping Speedway in Sheffield, they deserve that at least.

Keep on and you'll get everyone who has propped up a club quitting, the lack of understanding, the absence of tolerance, the acrimony and bitterness from an absolute minority is underwhelming. I sincerely hope that the even minded folk who support Speedway can see right through the likes of you and Robinson. There are no facts in your post just inaccurate suppositions.

It was £8.99 in W H Smith Cardiff

The money still goes to the SRBF

Unsatisfactory start gets everyone off the hook including the Referee, rules are not optional if you make a rule then everyone has to comply. As the sport is littered with vipers then abuse is less likely if someone has to be adjudged as the cause consequently the Referee is the only one who can legitimately get it wrong particulary when there are so many Referees who have never been astride a bike and genuinely wouldn't understand a racing incident.

Allied Presentations finished up at the Showground after planning consent was refused at the Greyhound Stadium following noise tests and local objections (no silencers in those days).

Sorry to correct you, Long Eaton was not part of Allied it was Peterborough that made up the number. The hardware from Long Eaton was all moved to Rayleigh when Ron Wilson ceased at Long Eaton at the end of 1967, some of it eventually went to Peterborough.

I think you're right Kenny, Rosco should know better than to ckuf about with things that don't belong to him! He did the same with his Barber's chair and look how that turned out!!!!!! Get well soon Scotty or that p rick will be sat in you're chair again

Interesting, when the multi platform sports broadcasters need to fill Summer airtime they turn to the live minority sports instead of utilising tertiary rights to fill the schedules. Eurosport Events who are bidding are backed by Discovery/Disney and as you are aware are not a secondary or tertiary rights outlet like UK Eurosport consequently I expect a big enough budget to retain the current production team although I agree 4K would be history. If I was in a position to influence this in any way I'd stick with BT who are steadily building their audience from a co-funded fragile start just like Sky and the BSPA did the difference is that BT are offering fees that are relative to what Speedway can deliver and not creating 9 or 10 shopkeepers who think they have won the lottery so that they can go out and blow it on the equivalent of Rickardsson, Gollob, Adams, Hancock, Crump, Wiltshire, Pedersen etc. £120,000 a club of Sky money bred complacency and avarice whereas £20,000 (est) of BT money now plugs a bit of a hole but nobody goes out and gets pizzed on it. Yes everybody you read that right, the BSPA and TR covered the broadcast costs in the early days for Sky and I don't believe either have ever had the credit for that.

You would, yes, but whatever the Bates' says goes at the end of the day at Sheffield. I would just caution against singling Simon out.

Only because the SCB had bollocks as well as teeth then, they've got neither now!

Whatever made you think this was anything to do with Simon?

I think you'll find everyone out there has mental health issues these days! Regardless of the person(s) involved stigmatising mental health issues is a no go, think again.

You are assuming of course that the first statement is allegedly the truth and not a hook.

Dear oh dear, what a way to run a business, put a Mickey Mouse story out saying plenty of offers was bound to cause speculation then to have to publicly issue any sort of denial is a shot in both feet. Don't be surprised if the next rumour isn't speculation that the club may close because there is no buyer!!!! It's more than likely the club will lose less money if it runs in the Premiership and switches back to Thursdays, particularly with a bit of TV money swishing about.

Glasgow will be rained/sunned (delete as appropriate) off for a month

If you are not an accountant or financial advisor why are you flying hot air balloons for a living? Oh you are, what does the world look like from up there?

I agreewith th 50/50 assessment but if Craig didn't see him from the apex of the turn then that's a poor show and although he clearly steers to his right the marshall goes that way too, force a rider to turn right and they run the risk of the footrest digging in.

The integrity issue for me is brought about by owning more than 1 club in any league, it effectively means those clubs under the same ownership can "squad" their riders so that one of them wins the league. Of course when Mike Parker tried this in the 60's he had rider control and an independent SCB to contend with nowadays the teams who are squadding are also on the Management Committee so very little to stop them winning the leagues every year.

What you get on BT is streaming, it is the quality of the production that makes the difference. If the BSPA do go down this route it will be outsourced to a production company or companies and that is where it will get tricky but I take your point.

It's a simple choice. BT want a 2 year deal the BSPA only want 1 so that they can pursue alternatives. Lets be honest if cost effective streaming generates more revenue for the sport it can't be ignored but streaming is, without doubt Kelvin, the way that tv is going. The Corporate world is already buying airtime on streaming servers and taking options on propositions, 2 major international household companies I work with have already set up digital broadcast facilities, it's happening and within 2 years you will not know which way to turn, a bit like Internet radio now.

No but Debbie, Bill or Frances might