Steve Shovlar

Why on earth would Poole let you have Jack Holder?

From what I know Poole employ one person, Giles. He is Matts right hand man. Everyone else is paid on the day, not full time. Middlo is team manager but only works when the team rides. Of course he does much more, as does Nigel Leahy, Gordon Day etc, but they are not full time. Many work for the love of the club and free entry on the night. (Rakers, program sellers, etc etc) The expense of these full time staff is rediculous and unnecessary.

Stadium manager. Shuffling non existant papers on a desk. Annual salary. £45,000. Health And Safety Manager. Twiddling thumbs and caught right up with Dexter, Game of thrones, seen every episode of Friends, twice. Annual salary, £40,000. Press Officer. Nothing to write about other than a ten minute ditty to the SS once a week. Annual salary. £30,000 Three track men. Come to work. Drink tea, eat cheese sandwiches, fart, belch, tell a few jokes then eff off home. Annual salary, £25,000 each. Bringing the total combined salary to £190,000.... Er. Get rid of these wasters and it basically covers the rent to the council. Track staff are only required on the day. A days wages is all thats needed. Other track staff are paid by being let in for free. No need for more. A press officer? Someone who is phoned up by the promotion and distributes the info to media. A good sensible fan with a laptop is enough. Bet there would be loads of volunteers. Wages? Free entry. Stadium manager? No need. Whats the need? What would they do? Walk around making sure doors are locked? A pointless position, especially so out of season. Health and safety manager? For what, making sure Morton doesn't trip over his laces? A pointless job when the stadium is closed. A job for someone on race night. 50 quid and free entry. Belle Vue, by employing these people, have thrown away the council rent. Or am I way off kilter?

I know an awful lot of things but if its told in confidence it stays there. I did mention Kennett to Rye weeks ago on one of the threads. Wasn't told in confidence just in passing. Here it is. http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=82888&page=2&do=findComment&comment=2865598

Staff were told earlier this week not to come to work......... What staff? The only staff employed by a speedway club in the winter would be the promoters themselves surely. Did Morton and Gordon tell themselves not to come in? Or Morton tell himself after Gordon legged it before the 5hite hit the fan? This mess has been on countdown for months. Since the team refused to put in any effort against Lynn as a show of discontent. Guests refusing to ride unless they were paid in cash before a wheel had turned. Gordon had clearly worked out that the outgoings were far bigger than the income so the project was doomed from early days. The promotion failed to promote and half the meetings were played out in front of crowds far too small to cover the outgoings. A complete mess, no proper business plan, no backup plan if the crowds didn't turn up. If a saviour is found, lets hope they have a lot more business savvy than the two clowns who have brought Belle Vue to its knees.

If non gp Johnny Foriegner is still a 7 or less, we could see an influx of new riders coming along.

Easy from Poole. Don't go near the M5. Cut straight across country and over the top of the M5 at the Somerset turnoff. Might get stuck behind a tractor but that's about it.

He hasn't a clue. Kept saying for weeks on end that riders wouldn't use their PL average. Made a total fool of himself, again, by going on and on about it when PL riders were always going to use their PL average. People on here kept saying where he had heard that PL averages were not going to be used but he couldn't answer. But just kept repeating it. Now he has been proved completely wrong, he can't even work out the rider averages for team building after the event. No wonder the best place for him is on block. Lol!

Whats the conversion used nl to pl?

Well it seems strange that such a tiddler of a club wants to play with the big boys. But good luck to them. Kennett is nailed on. I knew that weeks ago. Wonder what night they are going to race on? A track I have strangely never been to. That will change in 2017.

Welcome Somerset to the top flight! So we unfortunately lose Lakeside and their tricky track and gain Somerset, with a very good race track. They just need to keep growing the crowds now.

Thank god there are a few real businessmen in the bspa who didn't let the problem with the council drift and opened early dialog. If it wasn't for certain members of the bspa the track would be gone already. Loads of work to be done to revive the fortunes of this club though.

Ellis rode NL so it will be taken into consideration. The bspa won't put a young improving Brit on a false E L average plus 1.4. The idea is to bring on young Brits not put them out of a team berth. So we use PL averages for Newman after all. What a suprise. Bet that turnip Gavan is spinning in his Ford invalid carriage he tries to flog right now. Lol! Can see what the bspa are trying to do but 50 is a low place to build to and some riders like Kurtz could find themselves out of a ride in 2017. Pretty sure Matt will already have a good inkling of our 1-7.

Why on earth do fans of Saturday clubs think attendances will plummet by riding regularly in mid week? Poole get good crowdson a Wednesday, Wolves every Monday, Swindon on a Thursday. Why would it be any problem for Leicester who on a Saturday are up against the football team?

Not a mention of Stuart Douglas. Has he pulled out of the club? Living in the usa what is the point if the club are losing money and he isnt around to at least enjoy the racing.

Great way to start the season. Should imagine a very good lineup as well.

Well considering the debt you can't go wrong with Pairman, considering he is an accountant. With Gordon a promoter at Poole, we can now useBelle Vue as a feeder club for Pirates. Let them have a learning year there before coming to Poole. Sounds good.

Very sad news to read. A great, great commentator. RIP Dave Lanning.

Yep. And I stick by that. My family before anything else.

Theres a huge difference between this vote and a general election. And perhaps that's why the public shouldn't have been allowed to vote. In a general election if you don't like the result you only have to wait a few years before you can vote again to do something about it. With brexit we are stuffed and have to suffer the consequences for the rest of our lives. When reality finally sets in it will all be too late. Why do you think Blair never let the public vote on this? He didn't think they were intelligent enough to understand what they were actually voting for.

The problem was the public should never have been anywhere near a vote of such magnitude as this. The common man or woman doesn't have the understanding of what they were voting for, and as such have caused a catastrophe for the United Kingdom. The majority of brexit voters don't understand the economics involved. Instead they voted to keep the migrants out and 'get their country back'. Well, that isn't going to change. The EU migrants will continue to enter the UK just as before. And if anyone thinks new UK laws which are answerable to no one is good, they need their head examined. No European courts to appeal to if you feel you are being treated unfairly. With price rises now starting to show across the board from food to electricals to fuel to trips abroad, how long will it be before the bleating starts and these brexit people start to moan at the government to "do something about it". Yet they are the very people who have caused these price increases. And its only going to get worse over 2017, with most economists expecting parity between the pound and euro by the end of next year. I do wish the government had the balls for a second referendum just to clarify what people want. Now the effects of brexit are starting to show I would put my money on a landslide vote to remain. Most people don't like to see a shrinking wallet and unable to now afford holidays abroad.

The correct wildcards but Emil really should have done the qualifiers.

Boll*cks to the majority. Only myself and my family are important to me I am afraid. I don't give two hoots for Fred Bloggs and others who voted for brexit. What is important is that I am not affected financially and brexit has affected me which is unacceptable. Sorry I am not a socialist. By the way. Tea's up! Literally.

If you are thinking of buying a new mac, you are too late. Prices increased today by hundreds of pounds due to the weak pound. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37799235

Can I have your address so I can post an invoice to you for the thousands of pounds I have lost due to brexit? So I am going to lose tens of thousands in the next 5-6 years to discover if I am right or not. That makes sense. I really hope brexit voters are bitten hard on the arse, as I doubt the money I am losing NOW will ever be recuperated.