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Someone must of got wind the announcement is being made and they are clearing space on the forum for all the nice comments that will persue.

norbold, IMO the difference to a "surprise" rider qualifying for the big night back all them years is that it was a one big night. Now its a 12 meeting series, and if someone is not up to the series then it becomes quiet a pain for the viewer and probably him. Do I need to mention Ales Dryml in 2013? Take this year with Harris, I dont know the bloke and he may be the nicest guy around, and obviously he is a racer and a fighter which I love, BUT 10 meetings, 50 races, 40 points - thats not good. He is 26 points behind the 14th man (but that man is in touch with the next 4 or 5) and only a few ahead of the occasional wild carders. If he had a few good meetings, say scoring a 10 or a 12, making an odd semi, that would hold better with me, but he has not been near it. Now it narks me a bit that peeps on here are saying his best bikes are in the UK and thats why his average in EL is good. Hes in the world championship gp series for goodness sake, his best bikes should be with him for every one of those meetings. If they are not, why not, he owes that to his fans, his sponsors and himself surely. I look forward with interest at how he does in the next 2 gp's. Was last Saturday in Italy a return to long lost form? Were his bikes "a bit special" and takes them with him to Stockholm and Torun and repeats Italy? or was Italy a one off and now back to the mundane routine of the last 10 gp's. The balls are in his court - he has to prove something to us and himself. Coming third in Italy has put pressure on himself, can he come through it with flying colours - we will see. We have not long to wait.

Maybe if PK had only give 100% in Italy he would have stayed on the bike and got the points needed to be in a 12 meeting world gran prix series next year. Sometimes you need to think things out and ride accordingly. Back in 1964 I won the British Junior Cycle Speedway Championship at Raynes Park, South London. That year was my first summer season and I rode for Belle Vue Gladiators - the track was made up every Sunday on the car park across the road from the pits entrance. Never been to Raynes Park track before (never went again), on form I should have finished 7th-9th, but after 4 races I had 12 points max with one race to go. I looked at the program for my last ride, 2 of the meeting favorites were in it, but worked out all I needed was 3rd place to win overall. The top two were on gate 1 and 2, I was on 3, and a rider with about 2 points on the outside of me. Didnt take much thinking what I was going to do. It would have been so nice to have a 15 point max but that certainly was'nt a surety, if I did anything stupid both of those could have been winners instead of me. "All I did" was look after the rider on gate 4 for bend 1 and 2 and then just follow the others, no heroics. Thats what I did, but still finished on the back wheel of the first and second, with fourth man about quarter lap behind. I did what I had to to take the trophy back to Manchester, no more. If PK had used his nouse he could have been in the gp's all next year and not just for the Danish round or sweating for a full time wild card. Silly billy.

If that bike he rode in Italy went so well then he obviously going to have it with him for the last 2 grand prixs, meaning he should be up the score chart a fair bit. If he dont want to ride his best bikes in the gp series then he should'nt be there.

Thats true, but all marky said was AJ will get a wild card because he won a gp, to which I replied as I did cos Smoli has won a gp.

thanks for that Gustix. Be interesting to stick one of those engines in a speedway bike and see how it goes. Even if they were slower the racing could be as spectacular and maybe running costs would be reduced.

That means Smolinski will as well then.

The obvious question is why has he not been using good equipment in the gp's. No point going in a 12 meeting series if you not going to give it your best shot. If he can prepare a bike/s for El then he should do more then that for the gp's

So that means there was a slip up last night - is that correct?

The fact is:- he qualified last night and no one can take that away. BUT some have the opinion, which they are entitled to, that the 2015 gp is not going to be greatly enhanced by his prescence judging on the form he has shown this year. and the way other threads/posts by members of this forum describe the quality of British EL speedway this year I am not reassured by the statements that some make that his EL form in recent weeks/months has been good. Fact is, his gp form has been not good. Comments like he used his EL bikes last night, apparently they better then his Europe bikes, cuts nothing with me - surely if is EL bikes are better then he should have been using them in the gp's, but he hasnt - is that poor judgement, I think so if it is the case.

Is there a rule book ruling as to what happens with Zagars replacement He won the challenge, and likely to be in the top 8 in the gp. So who, according to the rule book, replaces him.... no 4 in the challenge or no 9 in the gp?

Equally, if he is so good why has he not scored more points in the 2014 gp's and higher up the standings. Apart from an odd race this year his performance has not been gp standard - IMO

Thanks to all for the "commentry" as the meeting progressed. Would have been nice if on tv but not so ...thanks

If Harris has qualified then you could say he deserves his place. However, that doesnt stop others having a view that by his contribution to the whole of the gp series this year he does not deserve his place next year. To be so far off the pace for the whole 2014 gp series (bar 2 meetings to go) I am one who thinks he does not deserve to be in the 2015 series. Of course no one knows what he will do in the series next year, not even Bomber knows that, but judging on this years performance the future does not look bright.

I though Martin Vaculik last year he was out of gp's for a few years to get more experience then come back for a serious go. What age is he now - 24? Same as Emil probably and he decided to sit out what will be 2 years before may come back.

I dont think, Sydney, that DW riding next year or not will alter the fact speedway "is in BIG trouble unlike anytime". DW will not be its savior.

Until news comes from FIM this thread will just go round in circles, or, hopefully just go quiet as we all wait to here the punishment.

I wouldnt gove Hample a wild card unnless he shows some seriously good and consistent form in the next 2 gps. And neither to the likes of Zmarzlik a wc. Sure he did extremel well on his HOME track the other week, but needs to show good form on all tracks, no point in having a "one hit wonder" struggling for a season. No doubt he will do it one day, maybe soon, but Miezinksi did the same last year at Torun but he not been consistant at that level has he (re recent Euro championship) and they should be to get a wc. If Troy doesnt top 8 I would consider giving him a wc, on the basis he has good form, and he didnt have a lot of time to get sponsorship together to have a good start to the gp season, so he done really well. ​Darcy for a wc - absolutely no. Love to see Emil in, but if he doesnt want it you cant make him. 2016 hopefully for Emil

Agree, the attendance was very poor, whats going on in Poland? Too much of a good thing maybe? Would be nice to see ES, GL, PK as wild cards next year but can only see one of those being there and that is PK (assuming he doesnt qualify by right tonight), Emil says he doesnt want a wildcard so on that basis he is out for 2015, and I get the impression that the Laguta brothers faces dont fit.

I agree Chris, it was a good meeting, though the track got to be a one liner too many times, but you could see the riders who had courage to do the boards. Talking about boards, I am so glad that there are air fences. Been so many crashes this year generally and I am sure without air fences more then a few riders would have been seriously injured or worse. Emil, Gregory and PK were in a different league tonight. Pity the final went wobbly but so pleased to see Emil get up just shaken - thought it may be a lot worse, something like last year when I saw his legs flying every where.

I didnt get to see the meeting last Saturday, just caught up with it yesterday evening. Thought it was a good meeting and it seemed a decent track - not seen Vojens before. Tai did well to come out of it with 7 from 3 rides, but why Smolinski wasnt excluded as well I dont know..... would love to hear the refs view on it and why he decided just to exclude one.

Its a 50/50 either way, until the rule book is pulled out.

and what about all the chat on here about 4 riders all turning left.

If you clean carpets with a bucket of soapy water and a mop then "no" not much to talk about, but professional carpet cleaning has a lot to do with chemistry, get it wrong and you could be the owner of a carpet you dont want, and with the additional cost of paying for the new one - and whilst yo can get carpet at £5 a sqm, it can also cost £100 sqm and then some. Sure, you dont need a university degree but you do need something substantial filling the gap between the ears. There are plenty "splash and dash" carpet cleaners around (as per "rip off Britain" or "Rogue Traders"), and you can go to a supermarket and hire a Rug Doctor and soak your carpet in sticky detergent filled carpet cleaning detergent so your carpets get dirty again pretty quick, but I, of course, was talking about professional carpet cleaning where a pro will spend £10,000 - £40,000 on equipment, and invested in quality training, together with effective insurance - BIG difference.

Possibly make the wild cards for next years gp tougher to decide if he doesnt make the top 8.