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Thats true, but all marky said was AJ will get a wild card because he won a gp, to which I replied as I did cos Smoli has won a gp.

thanks for that Gustix. Be interesting to stick one of those engines in a speedway bike and see how it goes. Even if they were slower the racing could be as spectacular and maybe running costs would be reduced.

That means Smolinski will as well then.

The obvious question is why has he not been using good equipment in the gp's. No point going in a 12 meeting series if you not going to give it your best shot. If he can prepare a bike/s for El then he should do more then that for the gp's

So that means there was a slip up last night - is that correct?

The fact is:- he qualified last night and no one can take that away. BUT some have the opinion, which they are entitled to, that the 2015 gp is not going to be greatly enhanced by his prescence judging on the form he has shown this year. and the way other threads/posts by members of this forum describe the quality of British EL speedway this year I am not reassured by the statements that some make that his EL form in recent weeks/months has been good. Fact is, his gp form has been not good. Comments like he used his EL bikes last night, apparently they better then his Europe bikes, cuts nothing with me - surely if is EL bikes are better then he should have been using them in the gp's, but he hasnt - is that poor judgement, I think so if it is the case.

Is there a rule book ruling as to what happens with Zagars replacement He won the challenge, and likely to be in the top 8 in the gp. So who, according to the rule book, replaces him.... no 4 in the challenge or no 9 in the gp?

Equally, if he is so good why has he not scored more points in the 2014 gp's and higher up the standings. Apart from an odd race this year his performance has not been gp standard - IMO

Thanks to all for the "commentry" as the meeting progressed. Would have been nice if on tv but not so ...thanks

If Harris has qualified then you could say he deserves his place. However, that doesnt stop others having a view that by his contribution to the whole of the gp series this year he does not deserve his place next year. To be so far off the pace for the whole 2014 gp series (bar 2 meetings to go) I am one who thinks he does not deserve to be in the 2015 series. Of course no one knows what he will do in the series next year, not even Bomber knows that, but judging on this years performance the future does not look bright.

I though Martin Vaculik last year he was out of gp's for a few years to get more experience then come back for a serious go. What age is he now - 24? Same as Emil probably and he decided to sit out what will be 2 years before may come back.

I dont think, Sydney, that DW riding next year or not will alter the fact speedway "is in BIG trouble unlike anytime". DW will not be its savior.

Until news comes from FIM this thread will just go round in circles, or, hopefully just go quiet as we all wait to here the punishment.

I wouldnt gove Hample a wild card unnless he shows some seriously good and consistent form in the next 2 gps. And neither to the likes of Zmarzlik a wc. Sure he did extremel well on his HOME track the other week, but needs to show good form on all tracks, no point in having a "one hit wonder" struggling for a season. No doubt he will do it one day, maybe soon, but Miezinksi did the same last year at Torun but he not been consistant at that level has he (re recent Euro championship) and they should be to get a wc. If Troy doesnt top 8 I would consider giving him a wc, on the basis he has good form, and he didnt have a lot of time to get sponsorship together to have a good start to the gp season, so he done really well. ​Darcy for a wc - absolutely no. Love to see Emil in, but if he doesnt want it you cant make him. 2016 hopefully for Emil

Agree, the attendance was very poor, whats going on in Poland? Too much of a good thing maybe? Would be nice to see ES, GL, PK as wild cards next year but can only see one of those being there and that is PK (assuming he doesnt qualify by right tonight), Emil says he doesnt want a wildcard so on that basis he is out for 2015, and I get the impression that the Laguta brothers faces dont fit.

I agree Chris, it was a good meeting, though the track got to be a one liner too many times, but you could see the riders who had courage to do the boards. Talking about boards, I am so glad that there are air fences. Been so many crashes this year generally and I am sure without air fences more then a few riders would have been seriously injured or worse. Emil, Gregory and PK were in a different league tonight. Pity the final went wobbly but so pleased to see Emil get up just shaken - thought it may be a lot worse, something like last year when I saw his legs flying every where.

I didnt get to see the meeting last Saturday, just caught up with it yesterday evening. Thought it was a good meeting and it seemed a decent track - not seen Vojens before. Tai did well to come out of it with 7 from 3 rides, but why Smolinski wasnt excluded as well I dont know..... would love to hear the refs view on it and why he decided just to exclude one.

Its a 50/50 either way, until the rule book is pulled out.

and what about all the chat on here about 4 riders all turning left.

If you clean carpets with a bucket of soapy water and a mop then "no" not much to talk about, but professional carpet cleaning has a lot to do with chemistry, get it wrong and you could be the owner of a carpet you dont want, and with the additional cost of paying for the new one - and whilst yo can get carpet at £5 a sqm, it can also cost £100 sqm and then some. Sure, you dont need a university degree but you do need something substantial filling the gap between the ears. There are plenty "splash and dash" carpet cleaners around (as per "rip off Britain" or "Rogue Traders"), and you can go to a supermarket and hire a Rug Doctor and soak your carpet in sticky detergent filled carpet cleaning detergent so your carpets get dirty again pretty quick, but I, of course, was talking about professional carpet cleaning where a pro will spend £10,000 - £40,000 on equipment, and invested in quality training, together with effective insurance - BIG difference.

Possibly make the wild cards for next years gp tougher to decide if he doesnt make the top 8.

Amazes me how many personal attacks take place on this forum. I frequent only 4 forums, this, a carpet cleaners forum (just retired from carpet cleaning), a residential park homeowners forum (I live in one), and a Toyota car owners forum (wife and I each have a Yaris), yet this is by far the worse, in fact the other 3 you dont get such personal attack, and certainly on the carpet cleaners forum the mods are bob on and stop things quickly. Its only a forum folks, we can all have an opinion, and lifes to short for petty personal attacks anyway. I will just duck under my desk now!

There was a ride at BV called the "Bobs", it was a big open ride, unlike the Scenic Railway which was partly covered to simulate going into a rock face.. The Scenic Railway was the ride next to the track. Pretty sure the Scenic Railway did not have a brake man but the Bobs did. Never plucked up courage to ride the Bobs, and by comparison to today rides like The Big One at Blackpool it would be considered a mild ride, but went on the Scenic Railway a good few times. I heard that the Bobs was dismantled and taken to the USA when the funfair closed. All though it was the speedway you wen to BV for........ Johnnies marching girls were pretty good too. Someone must remember them.

I would, but I cant speak for the other 39,998 I want to see the top 15 riders (plus a wild card) in the world ride. Sadly, this year, nor last year, are the top riders in the world in the GP's.

I agree, the Hyde Road track was a really good one, but got to say I did see some really boring meetings there and I put that down to lack of track work during the meeting. As a meeting progressed the muck would get shifted to the outside and thus the only racing line appeared to be round the boards, which the braves ones attacked with gusto. Anyone diving for the line, which happened, was like standing still on the base (concrete). Some really fantastic races - I can remember Peter Craven and Ove Fundin, especially in Golden Helmet races, just inches from each other which was very spectacular due to their completely different riding styles. Cyril Maidment was very spectacular too, swooping round the outside going into bend 3 on the last lap just to cut underneath coming out of 4. Split Waterman did similar tactics. Of course the spectacle continued with Soren Sjosten, then Peter Collins and Chris Morton. I was there in 1977 when PC hit that grid with his leg, robbed him of a back to back world championship but what a hero to race the next weekend and do so well. Anyone remember Anthony Jones - a 2nd half rider (never likely to progress) who was about 6' tall, and fell off so much it caused a competition to be organised - "Mark the Spot" where you thought he was going to fall and which lap. A great laugh. The new stadium - yes probably go, especially if they are modelling on Hyde Road track, but Torun would do as well.