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if you can untie yourself from those knots you have tied yourself in you might have some chance of digging yourself out of the "sore loser" hole that's so deep.

Track should be ideal as we've had enough rain last few days to bed it in but not too excessive and tomorrow looks a nice sunny day. Be interesting to see what 7 we track as time I think for us fans to see some continuity. If we ride like we did in KOC Shield v Eagles when we beat them by more than score suggests we should be comfortable as Wood is a waste of time away and Edwards still finding his feet. Be good to see Kyle back a 100% trier.

On what possible grounds having watched the excellent racing clips on SGB website and Eastbourne website would anyone have for declaring the Meeting "null and void" and re-running on a "neutral track". That is the most ridiculous post I have seen for a long time. What possible action on Saturday means Eastbourne can't have a Home Leg or that kind of absolutely ridiculous comment. Seems you really are just a complete sore looser and the fact Eastbourne got 43 points at Glasgow and therefore warm favourites over 2 legs is just swept under the carpet. Every post you have made in this thread is now outed for what it is "complete sore looser".

Sharpenrake 3 points (1) have visited Arlington for many years as a brummies fan and our rivalry goes very deep over decades. I've never been treated with anything other than the kindest respect and positive welcome. Yes they are very partisan, but I don't think any of us need any lessons from Scottish fans in being partisan in speedway or any other sport. I can think of far worse and less safe places to travel as a visiting fan than Arlington (Dudley Wood, Brandon and Monmore Green made Arlington look like a Polo Club!) . Don't think a line was crossed from all accounts. (2) you fail to reflect on what those who WERE THERE are all saying, a pre-meditated attempt by Craig Cook and Michael Max (Team Manager) to stir up ill feeling about the tRack. I've seen various race clips this morning on SCB and Eastbourne website and the track looks excellent and no issues with it at all. Certainly Craig Cook seemed to race on it fine once he had picked his dummy off the floor. Shame he didn't go out in Heat 1! A greater shame his Team Manager let him ride in Heat 15! to the loss of possible earning to a team mate as meeting was over. (3) Craig Cook has a well documented history of mood swings, he can be a nice guy one week and a complete tool the next and Michael Max is well known in the Sport (not to be confused as a Karlsson brother) as a wind up merchant. I'm sure that supporters of many Clubs will be aware of his antics. Maybe wise that you accept that Craig Cook was partially in the wrong, Glasgow tried to intimidate for 60-90 minutes but came up against a Club that won't be intimidated and that the subsequent punch up did neither Club any favours at all. As for Jon Cook, he is like Michael Max a complete wind up merchant and clown. Glasgow started it, Eastbourne finished it. simple as that!

Some valid points here. Opinions clearly polarised. showing a few seconds of a clip of 3 minutes is at best stupid and worst ----well you decide. Martin Dugard who I understood was no part of Eastbourne Speedway any more but Owner of the Stadium has done no one least of all himself any favours in releasing this. The clip proves nothing either way without showing what happened before or after it. In making public it makes SCB decision far harder now that it is in the public domain I'm told by friend (Poole fan who was there) that both Glasgow and Eastbourne Speedway Directors (Facenna and Jordan) spoke after the meeting to Crowd very calmly and respectful of each other, got a round of applause from the crowd; and may be it should have been left there until the SCB made a judgement.

wasn't there but a Poole supporting friend who was has told me one interesting fact that no one seems to have picked up on. He is adamant that when Referee saw Cook and Vissing set off pushed by their mechanics, (a) Cook gestured with a wave to other Glasgow riders to follow him (b) as Cook went round 3rd turn (full home straight away from altercation point) the referee put red stop lights on. I've track marshalled at several Midlands tracks and other forms of Motor Sport and it's at that point as a Marshall that you immediately wave red flag. On that basis, as neutral but part of Marshalls fraternity, would support Marshall 100% even if he moved as like somebody said "he is last line of defence". Bloke should be praised and rewarded not attacked.

Have said before on this topic (see Matt Ford piece) all valid arguments. The guy at Eastbourne is generally on more honest and transparent end of the spectrum, he is new and possibly very naive and not ground down yet by the old guard. One point he makes is very interesting and that is Eastbourne don't yet feel "ready" as they need a year to develop on what they have done this year, which has been pretty positive and successful. They are like brummies newly back up, but he may have struck on a bit of logic there. Is answer to announce a one league structure at next AGM but to leave 3 tier in 2020 and allow proper planning and preparation for 2021. It would be very novel and may be they bring in a Painter (GB Team) or Gould (BSI) to oversee it and go and find a proper League Sponsor and TV for 2021?

interesting assessment from Eastbourne. I started a "One Big league" thread on News and Discussions back in May after an article by Matt Ford in Speedway Star. That has run and run with some very good and thoughtful ideas. This article is at least showing some Clubs are thinking ahead and not just burying head in the sand and also very realistic that they admit might be a year too soon for them. The current format seems doomed, something has to change.

Does anyone know how many changes each team has made (excluding injuries). guts tell me Brummies the most and Berwick the least?

Must be that Teams are re-declaring but not announcing until day or 2 days before. Who is next I wonder? I'd have a wager on Glasgow or Newcastle, not many left who haven't made changes in last week / 10 days.

will wait for Danny King to move to Leicester for the Play Offs and Shield Finals if Sheffield are out of Play Off contention. If I was a Sheffield fan I'd be hopping mad. Stinks!

Would love to see Tero and Garrity in the engine room of the side on a longer term basis.

Will wish Nathan the very best on his debut for Rebels as very harshly treated by Brummies and I think OTA may suit his style. Reserves will hold key as Bickley is very poor away and Bailey won't have any experience of the Track. Sargeant seems right out of form and confidence so be interesting to see how long they persevere with him surprised he is still there.

very strange very very strange Sedgeman not ridden for months Kurtz binned off by Somerset out of form. Proctor has been smashing in better scores and form in both Leagues for past few weeks. Leicester in Shield Final look sure to be in Play Offs need rider whose average Proctor best fits. "Robbing Peter to pay Paul" or "robbing one Bates to pay another Bates". IF Proctor ends up at Leicester it will bring Sport in to further disrepute and ridicule. No doubt one for the Management Committee to look in to Oh hang on....."Bates and Bates and Godfrey

Not sure what it says about Kent, or in fairness to them the attitude of young riders / amateur riders, if they can't find anyone willing to ride at number 7 in an NDL match? Why were they not inundated with options from SDL level riders? young or a bit older?

whatever Somerset have a great top 4 now especially with Rowe and Stoneman at reserve, delighted to see Nathan back in CL. Brummies loss!

I went to Central Park with Brummies on 2 occasions with Curfew issues and both times Len and the faithful blames us for delays and problems.curfew is problem there, and number of crashes. If any Team delays near curfew to get a point who can blame them. The curfew not the opposition is root of the problem

I can get the "independent" (and actually far better ones) like Glasgow; Poole and Eastbourne to work fine but the off the shelf AP ones like ours have problems.

is there a date when transfers / moves are cut off - apart from serious injury?

wonder is Sargeant is on his last legs there and changes must be being considered you'd think?

shame if true as the Speedway Star did report a potential new Owner and thoughts of Connor Dugard going in as new Promoter were mentioned in the Star's new season review back in March. Be a big blow to speedway to lose it forever despite recent issues there.

demise of Arena/Lakeside I thing as much to do with financial mis-management before they were evicted by LandOwner for development to proceed than it was the eviction for development I remember them being very much a Club in latter seasons who struggled to keep afloat and as Speedway Star (Peter Oakes) reported some months ago, some huge liabilities incurred.

Clash of the CL Titans this and should be a classic both in Glasgow and Leicester. Both sides have slipped a little I think, Leicester more obviously due to injuries and Glasgow I think as they need Vissing to ride like a Heat Leader more regularly and Bickley to be more consistent especially away where sometimes he rides like a novice. Hard to call and as Stuart Dickson has pointed out / started the mind games, Somerset and Eastbourne (both of whom have possibly better top 3's than Glasgow or as least as good) have gone very close there in recent weeks. The track at Glasgow is fantastic and should be a great meeting.

we started with a Team that looked likely to struggle and made changes. Not Promotions fault Adam missed so many matches unless you believe they signed him knowing he would miss them. They are "having a go" and good to see that with better weather and better performances crowds have built up well. I'm no expert on crowds but I would think at level of last few matches we would be OK financially but if form peters out and matches get less significant worry is fans drift away. Promotion between a rock and a hard place with Championship / National League, little supporter appetite for latter not quite enough yet to be secure in Championship. I'm more confident now of next season than at any point so far - hope I'm right

Good meeting in the circumstances, Garrity did well and hopefully can keep it up. Not a lot you can do with tracks when so hot and sunny. Fear our season is frittering out though.