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Yeah I m surprised. Mainly because of the way Peter Schroeck had talked about Killeen in the past. Guess to be successful you’ve got to be ruthless in this business at the end of the day.

I think it’s obvious why Oxford have signed Boughen isn’t it? Because they want the best possible team they can get. I’m sure any team with a 2pt rider in their line-up was desperate to sign him. Are Oxford supposed to let the opportunity of him riding for them pass by simply because they are already doing well? This is not a case of a rider underperforming being replaced, it’s a case of an exceptional talent becoming available.

Yep, replaces Killeen. I’m shocked it happened, but delighted.

I don’t think there’s too much harm about getting excited about him on here. If he’s reading forums and letting it go to his head, he probably doesn’t have a great career ahead of him anyway! I honestly think he’s one of the most exciting talents I’ve seen at this age in a long time.

Well, I’d be surprised….but pleasantly surprised.

It would be a very strange move to get rid of Killeen. Schroeck was only going on about how it’s important to get Killeen back in the team as he’s the future of Oxford and how they’ve invested so much into him. Also they would surely have just kept Kinsley in the line-up for the week or so between Killeen returning and Boughen being available. Really can’t see it happening myself.

To replace who? No way they drop Killeen or Atkins, too much invested in them already.

So to avoid spamming the Glasgow thread, who has Ashton Boughen signed for? Doesn’t look like it’s going to be Glasgow now, and can’t see it being Poole or Oxford either after Thompson joined the Pirates and Killeen returned for the Cheetahs.

So where does Boughen fit into Glasgow’s line-up if the rumours are to be believed? Two changes coming on Monday, or has Boughen signed for someone else?

Shovlar? And all the people who have commented on it since?

Are Poole fans unable to understand what “in their own hands” means? It doesn’t matter how unlikely it is.

I said all this after the Poole vs Oxford match. I should sue for plagiarism! Big crowd expected if it goes to court.

I literally said all of that in my previous posts, but thanks for clarifying. That’s why I was asking where the evidence of Morris already taking a test is, as a lot of people seem to be misguided in thinking he did.

Where do you have this evidence of him providing a first sample? I’ve been doing some digging around and can see no reference to anything being provided at all. Not saying it didn’t happen, but there’s been no mention of it in any official statement and it’s not the normal protocol for drug testing. That said, nothing would surprise me when it comes to the SCB.

It’s not his fault, though. The Illuminati are controlling his brain.

Yep, totally agree. Amazed a bigger deal wasn’t made of that, but guess they had insufficient evidence. Not the sort of thing that would be withdrawn lightly.

I‘m not 100% sure of the specifics in the SCB’s case, but other sports have different sentences for different offences. I’m guessing it’s a two-year minimum for failing to provide a test. Whereas it’s more like six months for pain relief, etc. The SCB’s wording is arguably the problem as they should have probably clarified that.

Yep. Lance Armstrong famously couldn’t compete at Ironman after his cycling ban. Think he even went to the courts to try and do it, but it was rightfully thrown out.

He can do whatever he wants recreationally, just can’t get paid for it or enter any competitions.

I’m not 100% sure how to explain this, but I’ll give it a go. The WADA statement you quoted is a non-negative test at the lab analysis stage, and would require further testing - very rare. The simple kits used to test athletes on site (such as at speedway events) are not capable of providing a positive result - only negative or non-negative. These are typically not used during the Olympics for example (because they are very good at picking up recreational drugs and alcohol, but not so good at picking up very specific performance enhancers - which is what they are looking for in this case). This is why athletes are not banned on the spot, but only after the lab results come back (and why a lot of gold medals are taken away after the result of the race, etc.) At the Olympics only one sample would be taken (either urine or blood). That sample is split into equally into A and B, sealed and sent away for analysis. If A comes back positive, B is tested and you know what happens after that. But as I said, that’s not how it works at speedway. A simple kit is used. Seems unlikely they would have needed him to provide a second sample after a non negative result, as that sample could have been sent off for lab analysis regardless - a la Ben Barker. Has it been stated officially anywhere that Nick actually gave a first sample, or is it just rumours on here?

Same thing really. A non-negative result just means a drug test that shows up an illegal substance before it’s been sent for lab analysis (A Test). All drug tests on site will either be ‘negative’ or ‘non-negative’ at the time they are taken. Ben Barker’s test was lab tested later (B Test) and upgraded to ‘positive’, which the SCB confirmed in a statement at the time. He got a more lenient ban because the drug he tested positive for was used for pain relief, it wasn’t recreational or performance enhancing, and the SCB accepted this.

A pretty impressive win tonight. Jenkins looks untouchable at this level now, and Garrad looks a useful addition at reserve. If the Chargers can do this to Workington without Killeen, it’s going to take a very good side to stop them in my opinion.

Nope, not a thing. The email I got at the time (Aug 8) seemed to hint that the ticket would be transferred to the rearranged fixture (again). ”Further details for ticket holders concerning a rearranged date will be confirmed as soon as possible” Probably need to contact them if you want a refund.

Luke Killeen is not available now, and has been replaced by Kai Ward. Chargers should still win, but expect it’ll be closer.

Ashton Boughen guesting for Workington at number 1. Can only see a big home win with Killeen at reserve, though. Chargers: 1 Jordan Jenkins, 2 Jacob Clouting, 3 Ryan Kinsley, 4 Jody Scott, 5 Henry Atkins, 6 Luke Killeen, 7 Jason Garrad Comets: 1 Ashton Boughen (G), 2 Sam McGurk, 3 Luke Harrison, 4 Luke Crang, 5 Ace Pijper, 6 Elliot Kelly, 7 Harry McGurk