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Fair enough but my question remains to Lynn fans was he more ambitious in his early years at Lynn do they think ?

But if your the owner of that business and lets say your just about breaking even as is and you also have all the agg of running the business. The likelyhood is your going to think mmm Birmingham went up and lost a packet, Oxford tried three leagues and knocked it on the head after one season, I'm probably going to do six figures, there's no tv deal either, I might as well shut down anyway and spend the 100k I would have lost on cruises for my family for the next five years and have more time to myself. Worst case they could start running stocks which seems to generate more money than speedway or join nora and do the odd open meeting.

I was reading on another thread Northampton may not happen as the costs to get up and running have been way under stated, it looks a massive risk for anyone to take on even at Championship level let along premiership, if anyone does take it on they will either need six figure sponsorship or be seriously minted and happy to lose 100-150k without blinking is my take.

I get the impression the last few years Buster seems to be keeping the club going more for his love of the sport in general and as a result is looking to limit his losses. He's not getting any younger so I guess that's understandable that he doesn't want to risk losing a packet as he nears retirement as there's no que to take over from him. I stopped going roughly at the point he took over from Bill Barker, question to Lynn fans was he more ambitious in his younger days ?

Hopefully your sources are correct Dean and maybe Flagrag can convince Sky to give the sport another chance as he seems to be very close to media companies.

Can you imagine Rob's already stretched budget going up another three gears ? I can't see him bankrupting himself within twelve months unless deep pockets Tolley comes on board.

I thought most went to the number 1's at the time the Sky deal was in place.

Again spot on Ben when I went in the mid 80's to early 90's every team brought a superstar some like Cradley a team packed with stars and as you said you got to see the Gundersons & Nielson's once or twice a year unlike now where its 3-4 sometimes 5 times with play off's. As a lot of people have also commentated play off's are money spinners but equally mean some will pick and choose meetings more, that plus way more to do leisure wise these days than mid 80's and cost of living hasn't helped, I work in finance and estimate prices since 2020 and a minimum 25% higher over five years.

Which Pederson ? Bastian or Kevin ?

100% agree with you as I said no good/easy answers, personally I think the top league is done either now or within the next 3 years the championship is a much more sustainable business model particuarly when they can run on the best night for their business Plymouth being a rare success this year.

Doesn't look a bad side but maybe drop Fredriksen as he doesn't seem to have kicked on and gets in a few to many crashes , ideally you need a gem on a false average in the Bailey, Rushden, Cairns mould. The young yank Slater Lightcap could be worth a punt if he could start at reserve and the dane Kevin Jule pederson seemed keen to ride over here and impressed at Workington in dreadful conditions so he's clearly not afraid to get stuck in.

As we all know no easy/good answers, I've said before personally I would try to go for a top league of 8 teams once home and away at a standard slightly above championship level and the 2nd division would be 10-12 teams slightly above national development league level. A top league of five teams just won't work unless its once home and away if its 3x3 it will be so stale, people mention adding a pairs competition but they did that a couple of years back and you had the better riders ducking out of it and again its the same old faces so pretty much a guaranteed loss. If its true no tv deal its going to be even harder to get anything over the line, cmon Flagrag use your dulcite tones to get Sky back.

Surely it can't be Scunthorpe or such like even allowing for the fact when it comes to budgeting Rob can make a tenner stretch the same way the lord Jesus could when making a fish and loaf of bread go round five hundred odd people.

I can remember John Cowboy Cook having a brief stint at Lynn possibly back end of the 80's and he had some cool white leathers with black tiger stripes

Christ I can remember that Dean did he ride for Lynn from memory back in the early Ray Morton days possibly

It there's no tv deal that would be my choice if only 5 teams keep the current points limit once home and away then top four into play offs and maybe run a second team in the second division would hopefully help minimise losses and people should turn up as you would only see the top men once or twice at home.

This is where Poole win so many times they manage to nab a future world beater on a low average, it was a fair chance this year whoever ended up with Cairns so long as they had a reasonably decent side should win the league as he came in on a 2 but was really worth 4-5 points per match. If they get both Rushden and Bailey in next year on low averages , retain Cairns, Rowe and Lawson they will already be difficult to beat as they will have two new riders on below true averages, not knocking them as any team could do this. Yes its a risk running with three very young riders but equally given most teams ifthe points limit is lowered further have to run with a couple of two pointers you can again see the three youngsters putting 2-3 points on their starting averages and if the big guns do the job and no injuries they will be there or there abouts again in 2026.

Kelly Moran Hon mentions Henka, Darcy Ward, Mark Loram

And here's both the lads in full flow

He will be up there for sure if he keeps his head straight, if Poole end up landing him and Beau Bailey they will have two of the best up and coming talents available and both born racers as well. I watched the SGP 3 grand prix this year which featured them both and there were plenty of riders in that field that would be worth a punt in 1-3 years time if they could be tempted over.

Can't disagree with that real shame he's had such bad luck with injuries recently as although he's no longer the force he was at the top table in the UK league in 2024 he was winning races with his eyes closed.

Flip side they aren't risking losing six figures per season trying to compete in the top league

Got to be more teams coming in then if its that low surely ? a 5 team top league with watering down would be a disaster otherwise.

Don't really think it was a hissy fit he admits he saw the writing on the wall eventually for the prem league , we all know its in a bad place if it was attractive he would no doubt move up but for the present time there's way more downside than upside for him, same for Glasgow. If they go with five clubs he might just get his wish.

Don't really think it was a hissy fit he admits he saw the writing on the wall eventually for the prem league , we all know its in a bad place if it was attractive he would no doubt move up but for the present time there's way more downside than upside for him, same for Glasgow.