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Harris (Captain), Nicholls & Lawson as the heat leaders.

is it 37 including rising star ?

sounds promising i'm thinking could it be Lambo to ipswich

You seem in the know Flagrag is there any hope you have heard about in the current sea of darkness for the premier league ?

Lord knows what the teams will look like I would imagine most of the top boys have already bailed, so I can't really see anything beyond a championship looking side but built to the equivalent of a 45 point limit in the championship. As Mike BV has said its most likely going to 99% of the same riders who are in the championship populating the teams but with an extra heat leader.

Unless they have convinced Nigel to give Northampton a go he's the only person in Speedway who could probably afford to drop 100k on it to get the sport through to 2027 when hopefully even the prem promoters will be forced to take a different direction. I did like the press release saying "a unique set of circumstances" when it should really have read "a dreadful state of circumstances" have to give them credit for trying to keep it going but they need to realise it just isn't working in the current state and a risk is going to have to be taken at some point to turn it around.

I'm sure he would be worth ever penny

Can you imagine it Harry as the new Clarkeson's farm, day one would be Harry sitting at his desk trying to figure out the rule book, asking the camera man if he know's Chris Harris mobile number, trying to tie up a deal with Laguta who want's a 5k guarantee per home match but doesn't fancy away meetings. Someone comes in to say the men's loos are blocked again and they need a wooden prop to hold the roof up, the weather doesn't look to sharp he better nip down to the old pit gate and start looking at it very carefully whilst on camera. Harry on the tractor going round every couple of laps there could be 3-4 seasons in this against the backdrop of trying to make a profit backed by Amazon's trillions.

Are they all chucking in £50 each to get the deal over the line ?

Is young Max James worth another go ?

As we have said before what are you buying other than the equipment and the air fence which can't be more than 10-20k .

I was thinking that Smith seems to have been around longer than Rambo Lambo

If you can get a decent reserve in like that Kilma (think that's him) on a 4 but who more likely will be a 6 point man when dialed in you won't lose many matches at home. I do wonder if that young yank Slater Lightcap could be worth a go at Plymouth.

He will be in arm chair dozing off and on the odd times he's awake will be telling anyone within earshot how ---- they are and how great he is.

Agreed Dean back then even the top riders in the old national league filled reserve berths in the top league as number 8's and most struggled big time even against the normal top league reserves as you say even though Simmo was near the end of his career he blitzed that league with his feet pretty much up whilst smoking a cigar.

Spot on Bagpuss as ever the key is having a rider come in on false average and Poole have not one but two young lads who will be prime examples of this. Then so long as the top five are half decent you will be there or there abouts. Well Poole have one of the best riders in this league , Zach Cook if back should really push on and Gilkes if he stays injury free has potential as well. Final point the Fords don't also hang around if they are struggling at the halfway stage.

I've only been to live speedway a couple of time post 1992 but didn't they try getting the bookies involved previously and it flopped ?

I remember when Simmo pulled a stroke and managed to drop down into the old second division with Hackney I've a feeling he ended up a nigh eleven point average and pretty much achieved it with his eyes closed.

And boy did those lads have a hoover up , ultimately you can't blame them as it could all be over for them tomorrow through a bad smash but I'm sure if push came to shove they would have taken a pay increase of 50k on what they had the year before but most of the promoters blew their share of the annual windfall on a 100k increase.

I think its probably down to Stock cars holding less meetings and your not facing seeing the same team 4-6 times per season syndrome. I remember going to Lynn a few years back when it was a world team cup round (Billy Hamill) had come out of retirement to help the USA for the event. This was my first meeting after many years away and there must have been 5-6k turn out for it so it shows for the right event people will still come. Maybe a shorter calendar for the top league if it survives might be one of the ways forward with less but better meetings run over May to August possibly.

Always breaking records UK promoters just not the right one's

Thanks Preston take zero pleasure in thinking this is the last knockings but I realistically can't see any good way out moving forward hopefully i'm wrong but think unlikely.

It might be a case that we just have to accept the sport in the UK at the level we have known it previously is now over. I mentioned before i stopped going in my late teens in the early 90's when I discovered nightclubs , fast forward 33 years and nightclubs that pulled in thousands of people on a Saturday night then are all gone. The nearest city to me had 10 night clubs in the early 90's now it has one tiny one, and loads of pubs have closed over that time frame also, places that from 1990 -2005 if you had said to me one day all these will be gone you would have thought never going to happen but it did. Its accelerated since then with social media really taking off a lot of the youth of today have near zero interest in going out, online gaming, dating app's so you don't physically have to trawl out rounds pubs any more looking for a likely partner. Why bother with restaurants get Deliveroo to drop off a pizza to your door, Blockbusters video gone the way of the Dodo when streaming caught on. I occasionally look back at threads on here from 10 years or so back, and there's loads of names I come across who are no longer posting, I would guess there is maybe 50 of us die hards on here now posting and hoping a miracle happens so even this forum is probably on last knockings. Really sad how its ended up all be it the sport has actually limped on for far longer than i thought it would but these days its a struggle to attract punters even when you are offering a professional leisure opportunity let alone when you are trying to attract people to a sport where the riders all ride for different teams every other week and after the first month in you can pretty much guarantee every week from the two teams on show there will most likely be at least 2-4 of the combined 14 riders missing. It really does look like checkmate is nearing I would say one big league but the argument that there has to be some form of even dire top league to subsidise the bottom league as far as rider earnings goes does have merit as an argument, so it really is a case of least bad outcome. I would imagine it will be a five team top league in 2026 with a view to finding a sacraficial lamb to get it up to six in 2027 unless someone with a load of money and no business sense can be shoe horned into getting Northampton running in 2027.

Didn't Paul ride for a bit also ?, I stopped going at the time Martin was starting to clean up with Eastbourne in the second division and he was getting the odd ride out for Oxford.

Is the lad Michael West any good ? could he be lured over on a 4 point average possibly .