YeOldPitGate

I mentioned on another thread it was a brilliant track when I went 85-93 crowds held up even when we were getting battered every week in the Martin Rogers era, when Barker and Simmonds took over with a powerhouse team over 3k turned up for the first meeting at home, I remember not so long ago Buster talking about Poole meeting on a bank hol Monday where the club had the best crowd since the mid 70's . The support is there at Lynn if done right but is it really worth risking investing a load of money into something with only six teams, 3-4 weeks between home meetings sometimes and when you do put a match on 20-30% of the riders are missing.

Someone was saying he had a big bang in the gp so did well to score anything last night.

Re Cook and Castagna it also shows the complete lack of alternative riders available these days so minimal pressure to perform if your on a guarantee as you know there's few people available any better to do your job.

Such a shame re the track when I used to go to Lynn 85-93 it served up brilliant racing but its seems its dire these days listening to current fans.

Usual problem though with a speedway team these days you would struggle to give it away if you wanted out.

There was indeed that's a fair point he was a different breed that fella major smashes all the time and yet like the terminator he just kept coming but I do think for 99% of the time you need to avoid the big dings I think Holder snr could have had 2-3 world titles but he had two really bad crashes plus Darcy Ward crash even now he's still a great rider but he lost that extra 5% the top 1-2% really top tier have.

Personally didn't think the side looked to bad on paper a genuine number 1 two out of three of the best british youngsters currently out there , yes Castanga weak but I think its down to the other three riders being inconsistent.

I can remember Jan'O guesting for Lynn a couple of times maybe 1-2 years before he was world champion missed the gate every time but still smashed the opposition, can't remember much about Phil Collins although he was riding the time I used to go 85-93 so that's high praise indeed if you rated him better than the tiny dane.

Bonkers isn't it what a way to have to run a business.

Agreed I do think to be a multiple world champion you need to avoid to many big knocks, Hancock other than that one where he ended up with his arm in another riders mudguard (which was horrific) has mostly stayed out of trouble. Hans Nielson didn't have to many bad knocks either but as you say Doyley and Freddie although awesome riders have had some pretty bad knocks over the years, sadly Tai who generally stayed out of trouble has had a torrid time last three years also. And as you say older you get the more these knocks must start to catch up mentally and physically, Chris Holder another example.

Agreed in the early days in my opinion he was better than T Rick and more of a natural on a bike, but Tony had the extra dedication that propelled him to the absolute top level, but those days with Loram and Henka at Lynn were the best times ever in my period following the sport. You also had brilliant entertainment on the second bend with the hard as nails fan Nutter bellowing Richard Knight at 20 thousand decibels on the ride round pre race then disappearing back into the bar for the whole meeting, knocking back 10-15 pints of flat beer and have a look on his face that said I will chin anyone looking in my direction.

Is that you Richard ?

Probably one of the most skilful fellas to ever sling his leg over the saddle Mike (I await the puns).

My 1 - 7 Henka Gustaffson Mark Loram Darcy Ward Kelly Moran Jan O Pederson Chris Morton Bobby Ott

Did any of them apart from the poles look decent future prospects that we might be able to get over to the UK ?

GP 2027 maybe

Darcy Ward, Henka Gustaffson, Mark Loram, Chris Morton there's four gems for starters.

But we all know they were left with the scraps and as a result have a team where 50% of the time you have three possible riders who don't fancy it. You could carry 1 but you can't carry 3 with that mindset, if Zagar comes back and is 50% interested he could still do a job in this standard of league but they need to get rid of another one of the disinterested gang but its that same old question who would come if anyone.

Another blast from the past if I remember correctly big things were expected of the boy but he was thrown into an already seriously weak Lynn team from the off had blue leathers if I remember correctly ?

Pete was the other end of the scale zero empathy and always looked permanently miserable but as you say he knew how to run a team I can remember years ago when Wolves just about held Cradley in an away match and somehow Pete had Sam or Ronnie Correy out in every other heat and both were on fire that night.

Those were the days when on paper Lynn looked unbeatable Bo Peterson went from supreme around Lynn to terrible and dear old John Davis only knew the outside line and always left a gap on the inside you could have stuck the titanic through. King started like the heir to Penhall but a couple of bad bangs then held him back.

20 users at best where dying out at a faster rate than the tracks.

Don't give them ideas

That's Fox's big problem three riders who at different times won't fancy it so the odds are every match you are going to have one or two of them getting 0-3 when which makes it incredibly difficult to get a result. At the end of the day we know they were left with the absolute scraps, but Kye Thompson has been outstanding and Iverson despite his years always puts a shift in so at least they aren't getting battered every week.

What does the crowd look like ? according to Speedway updates the local morgue is busier on Christmas day