Crump99

Or was it took time to realise that you have to work with people and it's not a boardroom? You give supremo too much credit, it wasn't the first time and Frost said that he handed the club over in good order. Mick Bratley said years ago that the club could not (cheers Neil ) run on crowds alone which is why we had a thriving commercial side when he was there, which allegedly brought in a fair amount of cash. We all saw Bratley putting out sponsor boards on the centre green and I assume entertaining guests in the sponsors lounge as well as trying to promote the sport in the right places locally. So Rick comes in, Bratley leaves, the sponsor boards go in a shed, the sponsors lounge gathers dust allegedly and we have a bus in Sleaford, the roadshow turns up in Soham and a garden centre with seemingly nobody doing much worthwhile in the right areas, with no apparent day to day commercial side although we did have a nicely manicured centre green! We unfortunately didn't really give ourselves a chance did we? Frost runs a bloody huge company so why did he need a Matt Ford? Surely their training section has a suitable course?

Frost said: “We should have made the changes much earlier so I guess the buck stops with me. “Everything turned around after the arrival of Ryan and the alterations to the team. “Our original team looked pretty good on paper but certain guys we thought we could rely on - who were admittedly coming back from injuries - didn’t really perform. “It was apparent that changes were required and I’ve really enjoyed the second half of the season. “We made the most dramatic progress of any team and had we made the top four, we would have had a good chance of winning the title. A lot of people would have been scared to face us whereas taking on Poole home and away wouldn’t have bothered me.” (PT 28/10/13)

And as I said, I can understand why and don't blame them from their point of view because they can but that's where the piece of string ends. Why did the fans stop turning up? EL champs 2006, should have been 2007 and then an embarrassment of riches and one play-off disaster to show for it. The crowd only picked up when they installed someone competent in the second half of 2013; so instead of building on that success we bail out, lose Sky exposure and hand over to the supremo to decimate our product, that's some business acumen.

Well we're in the wrong one of those two leagues with status gone and I don't recall too many great times? NEW owner Rick Frost has promised Panthers fans that great times lie ahead. (www.peterboroughtoday 29/8/08) NEW owner Rick Frost has promised Panthers fans that great times lie ahead.The Berkshire businessman, who earlier this week revealed his sole aim of making Peterborough number one for speedway, is relishing the prospect of transforming the fortunes of the city club after taking over from previous owner Colin Horton. Frost insists the future of the club is now secure and he is intent on making sure the same can be said for their Elite League status.

They may have not put money in this time but might have over many years through the gate. If one liked Frost and Mahoney's potential, if not particularly the product up until the latter half of 2013, and not the PL product of 2014 and the one needing the cash for 2015, then this is not an overreaction for some. High profile in a low profile sport. Would seem logical to try to get something for your money rather than sponsorship, especially when you already own a club and assets: Frost added: “Without wishing to sound blasé, it is not big bucks to us. Financing the club has been part of our advertising and branding budget (peterboroughtoday.co.uk 28/10/13)

£3/4m - what the bloody hell on? The losses wouldn't have been half as bad if he'd made more right decisions. It wasn't all bad to be fair and I'd take Rick & Julie back like a shot rather than what we have now. I love it down Poole so can see the attraction and am not really surprised as I never saw Rick as a backwater of the Premier League sort of guy but didn't think that he'd stoop this low after pulling out of Peterborough claiming financial issues although 3 weeks earlier had said that losses were not an issue. When Peterborough was recently up in the air yet again, I said to my mate that I didn't think Rick would close Peterborough (I obviously had misplaced respect) but my mate said that Rick wouldn't give a stuff! Although we haven't yet shut I still gave the benefit of the doubt for better things again. That has been put to bed now. I guess I was wrong and the worthless bunch with big mouths and empty pockets were right after all?

Reading the new items again would suggest not but given our communication skills, hype and cock-ups over many years then it could be taken as the big announcement? Time will tell. They could of course clarify the situation, mentioning supporter confusion over the news items!

Rings a bell: "NEW owner Rick Frost has promised Panthers fans that great times lie ahead." (29/8/2008) - we got years of Kenneth Bjerre, no success, the winter of discontent, a messy end with the introduction of supremo Horton and tenuously more of the same for the foreseeable future!

Go away as well and play nicely with jenga.

Go away!

I could put up a decent argument if I was in the PL camp but I'm not so won't. I attended 2014 and in no way prefer PL but the fact is that if we are not running then there are no options. That's caring with conditions. We still haven't got a vision beyond 2015 so best to stick with it and see what transpires.

What the hell have you been drinking Rodders? I doubt that you or I will be delighted?

That's some challenge.

I'm guessing that people are steaming the stamps from the envelope as we speak.

That's rather inconsiderate, where's he going to talk out of then?

What do you mean when?

Well they'll not be sure that he isn't a relation so it's only logical that they all check in! I wouldn't put in those terms but since "Team captain Craig Cook is required to represent his parent club, Edinburgh Monarchs, after they reorganised a tie that clashed with the Rentruck Aces' date with the Pirates." stopped Panthers charge to the 2013 title then apart from the winter of discontent, that was the starting point.

But you could have lost it by then: Panthers were rock-bottom when team boss Jan Staechmann was sacked to allow all-time great Ryan Sullivan to make a dramatic return to the club (June 2013). That switch, combined with a triple rider change, sparked a terrific turnaround as Panthers flirted with a top-four spot before having to settle for a seventh-placed finish. Frost said: “We should have made the changes much earlier so I guess the buck stops with me.

I thought it was a bad dream for a second, Frost & Mahoney hadn't jacked it in and 2014 didn't happen and we'd played a blinder, but then I realised that as Basil Fawlty said: "Beats me I guess we are stuck with it." and a depressing twam a day from dazpanther!

Ged's got to be having a word surely, doesn't want to get saddled with that? Hours of fun for us but there is only one supremo and it's not a grand as it sounds

Is it really entitled supremo or are you having a larf!

You mean like the 2nd half of 2013 before Frost & Mahoney decided that speedway just wasn't for them?

That's only this morning's team though, be another one along shortly!

That's been the strategy for years and is partly why we're in a mess. Respectabilty away at all times is what gets the home crowd in, not a possible home tanking on the back of the all too frequent depressing (must do better, read the riot act, unlucky, hopefully return to form at the EoES etc etc) away meeting reports!

So basically anyone Swales has got a mobile number for? Has Bager retired?