Crump99

I wasn't aware of it and never saw it publicised, so great if it was an option for those affected even if it was a case of if you don't ask you don't get, current situation accepted of course! It's good that you feel the need to pay and not see it as a freebie and hopefully others do likewise but some disabled people will take carers who have little interest in the event and also have to be available for the duration so paying on top of that isn't always appropriate.

It's only in line because they've introduced the standard practice for events generally that take place at the showground with parking areas close to entrances, so that is true. The missing bit is that the specific event organisers apparently have some control over how they deal with their event parking and the club have made conscious decision to exclude stadium access to their disabled fans under the umbrella of health and safety restrictions that allegedly only they are aware of.

I'm not aware of the carer facility in operation at Panthers, and to be fair to them I don't think that it ever has. I know what you mean though because those receiving DLA/PIP can get a carer in free of charge at Posh where it is in operation but they get 7 to10x more fans and receipts. If you have a Blue Badge then that would potentially get you close to the turnstile under the proposed new system. It's then a fair trek to the circuit with a similar trek on the way out. Probably not a pleasant experience but as a one off you might cope or consider even that too much depending on the level and type of disability.?

Nicely put. I couldn't see a way out but that would do it.

They are targeting a group in the same fashion as has happened intermittently over 15 years so the outcome of that was clear enough. The attention is in the detail of what new restrictions have popped up and what will access really be limited to in future. You cannot always win that's true but it always seems to be those who probably can't help themselves who pay the price. If nobody fights the apparent unwinnable battles then nothing will ever change, even though as you say, often that's the way it is irrespective.

True but it's been a hokey cokey situation at the Showground for 15 years so I'm not buying it unless I know what these new H&S restrictions are and where they came from? There, that's me seeing flying pigs now.

Unlikely I agree but decisions get unmade when it suits all the time. Disabled people often feel bad enough about their situation as it is without requiring special measures to highlight them and their problems, whatever they may be. What takes more time, cost and effort: special measures to deal with a newly self created problem or just reinstate a system that worked perfectly well for years?

It was just a lucky spot. It wasn't really hidden away but just added on to existing information. It is what it is for whatever reason but should really have been communicated when agreed.

Not really. It worked fine last year under both administrations and is anyone aware of incidents regarding pedestrians or service vehicle access?

Surely there's always room for common sense and exceptions. Speedway crowds are not that big and generally in the less problematic week with plenty of Showgrond space so is it comparing like with like? If they want to do something different for big meetings and publicise it like this then affected fans could decide whether or not to attend but a blanket ban without notification has made it a double issue.

It's been done before and publicity makes no difference. If I recall correctly they were threatened in the local paper with court proceedings when it first happened and Jim Lynch was in charge of Panthers, but it made no difference because what the landlords say goes. When it happened again Colin Horton and Bratters organised a park and ride from the entrances that was paid for by the supporters club if my memory serves me right? At the end of the day the EoES are not banning Blue Badges but allegedly bringing their use into line with other events at the EoES. I don't attend other events so don't know whether that's true but given that speedway is a different type of event in its own right then a broad brush approach is a bit wishy washy at best. Yes it could be seen as as H&S issue with cars and pedestrians on the same road but surely nothing that a bit of organisation couldn't solve. The problem is once again removing a facility for the disabled that worked and does work pefectly well for reasons that don't really stack up. As usual I suspect that there's more to it but the notice is as much as we'll get and affected fans will have to decide whether or not they now attend under those circumstances.

If rules allow I'd have called us Crendon Timber & City Auction Group Panthers to show that it's two companies. Crendon City Auction Group Panthers sounds a bit strange as you'd be looking for Crendon City on google maps!

No idea. I have minimal interest these days. When Frost & Mahoney left Peterborough then so did much of my enthusiasm. If it's not Peterborough or GP as seen on BT then I'm unlikely to know too much about it. All I've seen of 6 fingers is a Twitter game of guess who this is? I assume that Lambert is riding for them but apart from that I have no idea who they've got. I wouldn't be happy to be a Stars fan because Christmas is really expensive with 1000s of relatives to buy presents for.

Don't want to see Nicholls or Ostrich anywhere near the place.

Actions get the coments that they deserve. Everyone was happy with the side named in Dec 2018 and then it got smashed and turned into a dogs' dinner for a shocking season. What comments did you expect? If that's the 2020 side then I wouldn't expect too much criticism, well none actually, to be forthcoming. We'd take that for starters

And you'd have to ask why because he was never going to qualify even when fit. At his age I'd have taken 2019 as a year that I got away with and knocked the career on the head so to speak. But he didn't so hopefully he has a better 2020 and stays on the bike.

Fair point but only problem is that these days his starting is indifferent and he finds himself chasing more often than not. That was great in 2006 when a fast barnstorning Andersen would cut through an intimidated opposition with ease at the EoES (y'know, I'm a GP star coming through and that's the safety fence, would you care to throttle off or fall off ) but these days he is not particularly fast or intimidating. I did watch speedway at the EoES in 2020 when it was on (each week, I do indeed remember those days ) and as Andersen's confidence grew he seemed to think that he was the 2006 vintage and looked like an accident waiting to happen, as indeed it did. He's still just about worth a punt but hopefully Johnson has a plan b when Andersen is absent in 2020.

When I went to watch Posh at The Dell the Soton fans were singing dirty northern b******* - it made me chuckle as I'd never though of myself as a northerner

As a full life local I can say that 15 year man is spot on though - One said: 'I lived in Peterborough for 15 years and all I can say is wow. what a f*****g DUMP' - it doesn't need a big sample to confirm that point tbh.

That's lucky Rodders. You'd have missed that exciting news about there being some news this week

With a readily available list of reliable volunteers. Those days are gone.

Track record weekly and it was crap. The times slowed considerably for a few meetings and the racing was decent and gave a poor side at least half a chance on their own circuit. Fans could see it but the bosses usually turned out a gate and go job although with a Panthers team that usually hit turn two in third and 4th place anyway they were not going to cut the mustard on any circuit tbh.

Think you've got hans fan mixed up with the resident looney.

It's called making up the numbers in a generally rudderless ship while living in a social media world where they have to talk up everything, often despite the reality of the situation that all but the happy clappers see. I never watch the interviews as I prefer my own opinion based on watching the action or reading club and fan reports.

Victory laps by the opposition do get a little tiring though and they also do little to improve the already non existent atmosphere at the EoES.