Crump99

That's standard though at their place and you knew that before you ventured up the A47.

Probably no better or no worse but came at at time of relative strength within the sport (compared to now) and when Panthers had the run of the EoES on their terms which made the club an attractive proposition for any new owner/s.

Can I have them back then if you've finished with them. The Bratters posters are full of dart holes and looking at bit of a mess now, not that they ever looked great but did keep the flies out

Should be a cracker.

It's not going to work mate. If you ever see Bratters coming towards you it isn't to shake your hand and say hello degenerate

Jeez, I hope Posh don't lose badly tomorrow because some poor sod's in for it next week if they do. Added to that it seems that orion thinks that you can run a bath now, a double like from young Tim

Been doing that for 20 years.

What do you expect on here. It's been a dogs dinner since (pick your own moment/year when it really went to #### ), the EoES is in an unprecedented August lockdown, we've no idea who runs the show (well that's not true as the Harris Witches and Cook Stars seem to be doing ok as another 6 fingered guest creeps into view) and no idea what the future holds apart from a wooden cooking utensil. To be honest, if you listen to Johnson then you do yourself no favours.

Ever watched Banged up Abroad

He was looking to sell and those reasons were given but only Rathbone knows when Chapman came on the scene or whether there were any other serious bidders. Rathbone also said that Panthers would run in 2019 so the distance wasn't an major short term issue.

If they were not interested last year when the club was in a good position with Rathbone in post then why would they be interested now. A link with Balfe Motorsport, a move up a league and BT publicity for T. Balfe Construction Limited seemed tailor made but much like Frost and Mahoney's riches, that bird has probably flown.

Surely you realise that if you post as such then you'll get a response asking to justify or back up what you say. If you don't wish to play but only deal with the bleedin' obvious in a disinterested manner then at least we can know where we stand

That was when the alarm went off but someone hit the snooze button before it went off again in Aug 2017 and someone did the same again but it was 3rd time unlucky in Nov 2018 when the button failed to work.

So in other words you can't find anything. Finding out the truth as relating to speedway business, that'd be a first!

Given what allegedly went on in 2010, Holdergate and the publicity and grief that brought then where's the surprise tbh?

Have we seen anything that said that they were happy to walk away entirely? The first news item I can find (Nov 18) says "Keith Chapman, the BSPA Chairman and Owner of King’s Lynn Speedway, has agreed a commercial deal with Ged to buy the Peterborough Panthers in time for the 2019 season. The agreement will see Ged and his loyal track team continue to run the Club in the Premiership." Still no sign of walking away in December when it started to go pear shaped "But we know what we’re here for business-wise, we’ll be going out to bring some silverware back to Peterborough once again and now it’s vital that the supporters do their bit and come out on a Thursday night to back us – and bring some friends along, because we’ll definitely have some exciting racing!” As we all know, it went seriously wrong in January when realisation struck "THE sale of Peterborough Speedway Club is now complete and due to unforeseen circumstances the Club have released Chris Harris from his 2019 contract. It is common that with new ownership (of the club) comes a different business model, and it has been identified that to operate at Premiership level, some cost measures are now required." It was at this point that Johnson became the mouthpiece, Pratt came in and Rathbone/Watson went AWOL. From what Neil has said then it doesn't appear to be an amicable agreed divorce so if you can find different then I'd be happy to read it.

Fair point. I don't think many of those excuses are coming from Panthers fans though. If they are then have a go by all means. I'd tend to ignore our 6 fingered friends from down the A47 or anyone on a broomstick flying down the A14. Oh, and just unignored based on your reply

I'm sure that Dick and I care as much about the club and it's future as you and have seem all of the club's owners, promoters come and go over the years. I've been through the constant moaning phase, in fact I'm sure that Dick pulled me up over my weekly dislike of Henning Bager many moons ago. Maybe you'll come through your phase at some point. But until then, that's good advice. You can join an exclusive blocked club

Even as a not particularly happy Panthers fan, we get the message and it is getting a little tiresome. Yes it's a forum and you're entitled to your opinion but could you change the record. If not while Chapman is there then just sit tight and see what happens because I doubt that you'll change anything.

It's been like that at times for at least 15 years at Peterborough. There has been some nasty stuff and management have often been justified in coming out fighting. Generally though it's lack of communication/explanation that causes the problems. Fans get upset and vent their anger and management get upset when in fact they could have nipped things in the bud much earlier with a version of events that people will believe and not the corporate line that usually doesn't stack up to other info out there.

Surely he could walk.

As it turned out badly I'd say that Buster will get the blame.

You'll not be an Alan Partridge fan Rodders but he had the perfect retort for a similar loon: "No way you big spastic you're a mentalist!"

Historically that is a fair observation. More often than not, like most places in reality, the first half of a meeting is often fairly processional with the odd good bit before it really warms up afterwards. The problem in 2019, especially lately, with the Panthers team provided is that it's usually in big trouble at the EoES by that time, just hanging on as the opposition coasts through the second half of the meeting doing what's necessary as Panthers bust a gut just to get a drawn heat with a first and last place.

I'm not convinced but you know more than I of the running and logistics of the place so I can live with that. It was a bit bloody steep down the back so you could be correct on the H&S as well.