Crump99

Normally we do but I'm not sure how many lives we've got left. This was the sustainable level that was allegedly, for many, our saviour but we are indeed here again after 2 shocking crowds for important meetings. I'm sure that the story will grow though.

You are correct!

You've more interest in it and know more than me so fair enough. More worrying (and somewhat coincidental for any conspiracy theorists) is that Rathbone has just thrown in the towel at the EoES.

Without any detail then why is that worrying? The directors might have the right agenda.

If Frost/Mahoney (who gave us 5 top quality years of expensive entertainment despite the lack of success) hadn't saved us from Colin who saved us from Mick in the first place if my memory serves me right, then we'd probably have been closed down anyway. Seems that you don't remember that?

Please be upstanding. Isn't there a phrase "it couldn't get any worse"

At the moment though it's Panthers select with question marks. Nobody's fault, although somewhat compounded by the BWD gamble that has gone a bit pear shaped when it mattered. If you'd been watching Panthers over the last few meetings you'd see that their concerns are well founded.

Guests are hit and miss at any time, we know that. Always have been and always will be, especially at this level. Just trying to earn some money as opposed to riding for your team with your team mates must be a different kettle of fish.

And all things that we couldn't do anything about. Everyone knows that Lambert scores points at 6 or 7 so where's the surprise there. The first part is tosh, so quite appropriate, but based on that the last sentence makes little sense.

Johnson confirmed Panthers have been forced into a change of number one guest for the home clash. He revealed their initial selection Thomas Jorgensen has dropped out with Scunthorpe man Steve Worrall being drafted in. Johnson added: “It’s disappointing not to have Thomas as he has ridden well in his guest bookings for us. “But he feels that by taking the meeting tomorrow he would not have sufficient time to prepare his machinery for King’s Lynn play-off final in the SGB Premiership on Monday night.

Nobody bit on the Redcar thread so I'll leave you to make 5 out of 2+2 unless you have something more concrete that you wish to share. One thing that I did notice is why the Europress banner on the back straight fence has been covered up with a T Balfe banner?

No idea, but why would it be? Went in one ear and out of the other, like most of the invisible interviews. It'd be nice these things could be seen rather than just popping up out of nowhere.

True but it sure buggers up one excuse.

Considering that neither website has a preview for the meeting (Lakeside especially as the home side with just over 24 hours to go) I'd say that your wish will be granted unless there's some miraculous turnaround in the predicted weather: currently still wall to wall rain

A great selling point for speedway at this level

Not just on the night for the regulars. Over the last 5 years (don't remember many during the Frost era or before that) there have been many lengthy delays and communication is usually not sufficient.

I did see that mentioned in one report and agree that that was very noble if the reason but that does seem to have dropped off the news item and the ET article where it only says "But we’ve got a duty to the supporters who have paid to come in to give them fifteen heats".

Wasn't there and I'm no fan of that level of second half: usually my cue to leave (not required info but just to clarify my position) but that is a very good point. As Tsunami said, Rathbone is a speedway may and it shows with his actions.

So you''re saying the press release isn't accurate: “After the operation we will re-assess Bradley next week to see whether it’s a season-ending injury, so we’ll give him a few days’ recovery time first, see how he feels and then go from there. “If he feels up for riding then he’ll continue, but we won’t know that until after the operation. “It’s not a major surgery and there should be no after-effects other than general soreness, so there is a slim possibility that he could carry on racing, and obviously he’s a vital part of the team."

Don't buy it sorry, we'll agree to disagree.

Why would you assume that? I'd assume that for a non urgent procedure on an healed injury that's not causing difficulties that we know of, the surgeon's advice would be that we can remove the plate and screws when you're ready? Although reading the article it reads as if September surgery was planned in June or before so that doesn't suggest surgeons advice to that extent at all. Irrespective of all that, no surgery is fun, however minor, and it should be avoided at all costs, so hopefully it goes well and he's fit and raring to go in 2019, wherever that may be.

Cost or responsibility isn't mentioned so who knows. It just says timescale and I'm not sure what that means in this situation, I wouldn't imagine that the rules around non urgent surgery would be too strict and the NHS seems to cancel such things at very short notice themselves. If you had a similar problem known about in June but you were going abroad for a month in September then wouldn't you say that you can't attend at that time. I'm sure that it would be noted and agreed that you'd be fitted in before or after. Likewise if you're a UK sportsman from March to October then wouldn't you mention that and fit it in during the close season as I recall happening on other occasions in the past. If it's causing pain then asap is very important but there's no mention of that and BWD rode very well on Sunday on a track that would certainly pull hard on a damaged shoulder, although removal of plate and screws suggests that it has healed but will need rest afterwards for the rest of our season would be my guess. Anyway, it is what it is and that's not going to change.

Wouldn't know anything about that. What's Brexit?

I wouldn't fully agree with that. If you're prepared to pay for a minor op, as the news item says was considered, I'd say that you can pick your date going private.

I've always said that the race to the bottom continues and British Speedway has yet to bottom out but that might do it! Rathbone sort of went there but on the Polish issue but your proposal really is the Hahnenkamm.