Crump99

August 18, absolutely ridiculous state of affairs.

IMO domestic speedway is in a worse state than it was 2 or 3 years ago. It was in decline then and hasn't bottomed out yet so the answer is yes. Others may disagree of course but most of the content in the 50 pages would suggest that yes is the answer.

you'll have to explain that one.

Maybe but doesn't mean that they don't have a point. If they are wrong them tell them why and explain your reasoning. End of argument although in speedway world that's virtually impossible as there's a serious lack of transparency and consistency.

or Scott Nicholls last week for instance: for Ippo v Lakeside, at Lakeside for Ippo, then for Panthers v Ippo on Sunday - not to mention last year's KO Cup final.

Well the thread's hit 50 pages so something is going on!

is there a meeting today Better get up to speed later.

It's up to promoters collectively in that case to deliver a product that the fans want to watch, but we know that one or two at least will break ranks to knacker up any such agreement. Riders risk their necks by choice and can choose not to do it as a profession if they wish. That's not to make light of the dangers and their wishes need to be listened to and respected but the bottom line has to be that it is what it is and you can get on with it or do something else. Forgot to mention, I think that when Swales was asked about this subject last year he said that the modern volatile bikes can't handle the tracks as they were prepared 10, 15 or 20 years ago so perhaps slick is the way it has to be which will only hasten the decline.

It isn't each week unfortunately, more like each month these days, so that doesn't help. It's always rideable but raceable and providing entertainment depends on who you're asking or which report you're reading. Good point about what type of track is provided and the entertainment it provides. We've long been told that the riders want the EoES slick but I doubt many paying punters do, especially long term supporters or those who are no longer paying speedway supporters. Think that was Ostrich commenting on the track? A couple of meetings ago someone else moaned (can't recall who) that it was never the same two meetings running. Batchelor was always the best though with typical aussie tact and diplomacy I don't think the team is a budget buster. Rathbone seems to send anyone packing who gets lost in their self importance so I guess that the extra clicks are money in the bank this year at least.

That's an excuse, not a reason. I'd say that there's more to it than that. As a long termer who still goes, I'd agree that the view and comfort is as good or better than anywhere, the track is rarely the same twice, presentation is probably good compared to the rest but compared to what it has been at Peterborough I'd say it's average. As to what more do people want, something more akin to what they had I guess although that didn't bring the crowds in either, so buggered if I know. A winning team usually does it and Rathbone seems to have got a handle on that now, hence Sunday's crowd.

Said the same about darts in the late 80s early 90s.

I'm not interested in what happened and why. The point was that the bloke on the mic reported what beerhut said so why is that having a dig at Peterborough.

He's only repeating what the loud bloke on the mic said (was bliss for 45 mins before the meeting. Can we have a power failure every week). He never mentioned car parking.

Definition of visiting sides these days.

There is a logical sequence though based on the information at hand so he'd be second on the list.

It'll be something like: 1) Each top league team will race on their designated race day. There may be a case when there needs to be a special ruling and these are listed in 1.1 below. 1.1 Exceptions; to be made up as we go along, depending on need and who's asking.

It's a question of whose answer will be nearer to reality. Neil would generally be the sensible option although it's a bit corporate and encroaching on " the exciting plans formulated by the BSPA (British Speedway Promoters Association) for the 2019 season." so I'm sure that everyone has their orders, so Godfrey might be worth a punt!

That's nearly as good as "as the summer of speedway begins." It's August! - The meteorological summer begins on 01 June 2018 and ends on 31 August 2018

As I've said before, recent history suggests that if there is one bloke not to ask a question then that is he

They've had to cancel the event and make the EoES a pikey free zone unfortunately. They put some flyers out in the Workington area to guage interest but health and safety decided that the EoES's 250 acres couldn't cater with the prospective numbers showing interest from up north!

I dare say that dates can be found if needed but the overall dynamic of living at the EoES isn't going to change. I wouldn't read anything more into this than having second thoughts on a loss making proposition.

Why you asking us? This is the story " The Hammers had accepted that date but are now unable to attend" so better asking Lakeside why they are not attending

I'd always class us as south but did go to watch Posh once at The Dell and the Southampton fans were calling us you dirty northern b'stards so it can be a bit hit and miss it would seem.

That should worry everyone for a start then.

I doubt that a crowd of zero would convince them that they've got a problem.