Crump99

Jeez, it's certainly changed significantly. I'd start looking for a new date Dick. The Met Office has been pretty crap over the last few months but they can't be that wrong surely

Looking at the current Met Office forecast (likely to change significantly) this'll not survive anyway

You started by saying "as you understand it" though Neil and add that phrase to a Peterborough promoter over the last decade or so where rules are concerned and it's hardly surprising that supporters get a bit jittery. Taps' Panthers fans paranoia is not without substance when there is official lack of clarity from the big chiefs.

Nobody needs to keep quiet though if the BSPA were doing their job (from the BSPA website): PLAY-OFF PICTURE - HOW IT WORKS - The top team from each group and the best second place race off in two semi-finals over two legs. - Winners of semi-final then race over two legs in the final to decide Championship Shield winners. How is best second place arrived at given unequal groups? As usual, it's just the attention to detail, not really Peterborough's problem. The lack of clarity probably helps us in that respect .

It's no doubt more a case of let's see who of the three second placers is our preferred option before we devise a formula to meet that objective, rather than taking a chance on a pre-agreed formula that could throw up a totally random outcome

True. If the bloke on the pits mic can't give confirmed line ups straight away ("what I can give is the coin toss" - well whoopee doo!) then just give out the proposed line up (subject to ref approval) and then confirm the line up before riders take to the track. It's not rocket science but should help avoid such cock ups.

Not surprised. Having never watched Polish league speedway I thought I'd look at Freesports offering last week. I gave it two heats. Wouldn't bother with it again. I suppose that the top stuff is ok to watch but I'm not that bothered to make any effort to get it outside of the mainstream platforms ie. Sky/BT in my case.

Met Office says 4-6pm but given their track record over the last few months I'd rather wait and see. The Sky forecast last night did have a dark blue blob over this area for about 4pm so fingers crossed for those going

PETERBOROUGH: Scott Nicholls, Emil Grondal, Nike Lunna, Paul Starke, Ulrich Ostergaard, Tom Bacon, Simon Lambert. REDCAR: Ben Barker, Jordan Stewart, Jonas B Andersen, Mikkel B Andersen, Matej Kus, Tobias Busch, Theo Pijper.

In terms of the weather with rain unlikely at any time, we should be alright on that score, but bugger me it's saturated everywhere and still not drying weather. So it depends on track and parking I'd say. If they get time to work on it and get the wet stuff off or dried out and dryish stuff put on then that's one problem solved. Hopefully parking is on the hard standing because the EoES wouldn't want the grass messed up, even with a couple of drier days

Sheffield's website: SHEFFIELD: Kyle Howarth, Todd Kurtz, Charles Wright, Josh Bates R/R, Lasse Bjerre, Jack Smith, James Shanes. PETERBOROUGH: Scott Nicholls, Emil Grondal, Nike Lunna, Michael Palm Toft, Ulrich Ostergaard, Tom Bacon, Simon Lambert. and our Eric Morecambe version: SHEFFIELD: Josh Bates R/R, Lasse Bjerre, Kyle Howarth, Todd Kurtz, James Shanes, Jack Smith, Charles Wright. PETERBOROUGH: Tom Bacon, Emil Grondal, Simon Lambert, Nike Lunna, Scott Nicholls, Ulrich Ostergaard, Michael Palm Toft.

LAKESIDE HAMMERS: Nick Morris, Ben Morley, Adam Ellis, Kyle Newman, Richard Lawson, Zach Wajtknecht, Alfie Bowtell. PETERBOROUGH PANTHERS: Scott Nicholls, Emil Grondal, Nike Lunna, Michael Palm Toft, Ulrich Ostergaard, Tom Bacon, Simon Lambert. I'm probably naming all the right riders, but not necessarily in the right order: Teams in the style of Eric Morecambe from: LAKESIDE: Alfie Bowtell, Adam Ellis, Richard Lawson, Ben Morley, Nick Morris, Kyle Newman, Zach Wajtknecht. PETERBOROUGH: Tom Bacon, Emil Grondal, Simon Lambert, Nike Lunna, Scott Nicholls, Ulrich Ostergaard, Michael Palm Toft.

Easy to spot though. Just look for the bloke blowing the Shofar badly with nobody within 50 metres!

Is that where Taps lives or is that bell end? Sorry that's a bit naughty but it followed so naturally, much like Panthers will tonight

Click search and the reality hurts

If you didn't know better you'd have thought that you'd stumbled on an Ipswich WI forum

Bring it on

A good early decision More work for you Dick

but then again, spot the preview difference (it was close to being accurate " Panthers track an unchanged line-up" - unchanged alphabetically then ): PETERBOROUGH: Tom Bacon, Emil Grondal, Simon Lambert, Nike Lunna, Scott Nicholls, Ulrich Ostergaard, Michael Palm Toft. IPSWICH: Nico Covatti, Michael Haertel, Cameron Heeps, Danyon Hume, Danny King, Connor Mountain, Rory Schlein. Ipswich: 1. Danny King 8.87 © 2. Michael Härtel 5.20 3. Rory Schlein 8.58 4. Cameron Heeps 6.93 5. Nico Covatti 7.49 6. Connor Mountain 3.33 7. Danyon Hume 2.00. Peterborough: 1. Scott Nicholls 9.73 2. Emil Grondal 5.04 3. Nike Lunna 5.90 4. Michael Palm Toft 6.77 5. Ulrich Ostergaard 7.12 6. Tom Bacon 2.67 7. Simon Lambert 4.56 ©.

I assume that you mean just Peterborough because most other tracks that had efficient communications were quite happy to list the programmed line ups in race order.

Well speed hasn't increased. I see Ippo website already has a full preview up and they're the away side Ipswich: 1. Danny King 8.87 © 2. Michael Härtel 5.20 3. Rory Schlein 8.58 4. Cameron Heeps 6.93 5. Nico Covatti 7.49 6. Connor Mountain 3.33 7. Danyon Hume 2.00. Peterborough: 1. Scott Nicholls 9.73 2. Emil Grondal 5.04 3. Nike Lunna 5.90 4. Michael Palm Toft 6.77 5. Ulrich Ostergaard 7.12 6. Tom Bacon 2.67 7. Simon Lambert 4.56 ©.

True on both counts.

Teams from! - why We know the order from Sunday and that'll not change much and the Ippo line up for Fri (on their website as it always is) should be similar if not the same. (yes it is a constant whinge I know)

Talking of drips, another cracking contribution

Bit of a rip off to pay to watch someone so far off the pace that the only question is which 3 pointless rides they take. That's not Bowtell's fault, it has applied and will apply to plenty of other riders (Panthers included). It's the structure that allows it that's wrong.