False dawn

The rules are quite clear. That doesn't make them fair, sensible or popular.

Well any team that scores 45 points and goes home with zero league points has to feel gutted, almost cheated, may I say. On the subject of the scoring system overall, the system immediately prior to the introduction of this super heat may be more complicated than the aggregate point idea. However, I always felt that despite the slight difficulty for the "uninitiated", it was a very fair system. The aggregate point system is simpler, but the two teams that compete in the "second leg" could easily be a totally different groups of riders (new signings, guests, heavens forbid, etc.) and it could be weeks (or even months) between the two legs. For me, it's a case of, it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Would anyone be amazed if Belle Vue realise the double booking and postpone the British Final?

I think they've all got balls (big ones actually) so that won't work.

Are you going for a record of how many posts you can quote in a single post?

Bloody dogs life, eh? Edit: Good luck to Swindon. I have happy memories of many visits to the Abbey and look forward to future speedway matches there. I've found it very hard to follow the twists and turns of the story at Brandon. And believe me, I've tried. Trying to unravel the complications surrounding the Swindon stadium is beyond me. I really hope it can have a happy outcome.

I hope he is. Because I'd have him back at Leiccester in a heartbeat.

You're not wrong. But some of us wish to put our proverbial arm round the lad. Those close to him have said that his head's not in the right place and i guess it can't help being constantly compered to his brother. He is clearly a better rider at Championship level than his current form suggests. Come on Joe, we know you have it in you.

In 2020, as we had no league racing, me my racing buddy went to several British Youth Championship meetings. And we both agreed that consistently the 250 class was the most enjoyable and exciting to watch.

Was thinking of going (starting from the Birmingham area) but I'll be taking an empty car. Anyone else fancy going and sharing petrol costs?

Boy, does that bring back some memories. Looks like speedway could be run there.

That goes for any team at any track

Permanently or as a guest?

ebay.au might realise you a couple of dollars. But I wouldn't hold your breathe. Maybe in another 94 years!

I think we have to bang the drum on all the social media platforms asking for the truth of why this meeting was abandoned. We can speculate endlessly about tyre quality, engine performance, track surface etc. But until the truth is made known, we have no chance of seaking a real solution.

But still it gets worse. Brian Karger invents a new fancy ignition box. Programmable with different engine mapping settings no doubt. Anders Thomsen is the "guinea pig" and wins a GP using it (shades of Egon Muller, eh?). Virtually everyone in the pits, 2 GPs later, has one. Now those of us that have been around a while, will not find any of the above very surprising. What did take me back was Kelvin (or was it Chris?) saying in commentary that the pits were full of these boxes the night before, i.e. on the 250s in the SGP3 Final.

Thanks Iain. I was wrong (again) which is becoming a habit on here for me. It wasn't GBSpeedway, however. It took GBSpeedway 10 days to report Dan's Cardiff victory. However, The Official British Speedway Twitter feed, as detailed above, has coverage. I'm going to stop posting.

Sorry R&R but GBSpeedway (including social media) have not reported Dan's latest victory.

I was too. I lived in Coventry at the time but due to a complete cock up I had booked to be in Cornwall that week for a family holiday. I drove back to see the meeting and went back to Cornwall the next day. Now that is nuts.

FIM rule 47.1 subsection 14b Oh alright, it was you

False dawn got it wrong. It's The SEC where this applies. To be clear...... If Dan makes it through in the top six, Max Fricke will qualify from the Challenge. If, say, Leon Madsen makes it through in the top six and he wins the SEC, the 2nd place in the SEC won't qualify by right. That's when the FIM nominate an extra permanent wild card. P.S. it's dawn as in the time of day, not Dawn as in the girl's name

Umbrellas at the ready

Insightful, as always!

It ain't been a bad two weeks has it for Dan? Two GP wins and qualifying for next year's championship, just in case. No wonder he looks a bit stunned. If this doesn't put you on cloud 9, nowt will. Congratulations

My feeling is that, despite the engines being tuned etc., the 250s are much more evenly matched. This naturaly leads to more closely fought races and puts more emphasis on rider skills. This is just a theory of course, but it seems to fit the facts. And this post, that appeared whilst I was composing mine, seems to be in the same vane. An interesting side note. Someone prominent in the speedway world said in my hearing recently that the worse thing speedway ever did was to announce race times. Hmmm, makes you think.