lucifer sam

Quite often they are! Starting the 90-second time limit opposed to 2 minutes. And then in other, more subtle ways! PS Only place I've seen the tyre warming is on the BSN footage itself. It's really obvious - a plume of smoke from a rear tyre in front of the ref's box. I don't think anyone has argued against that one.

As already noted, that's football, not speedway, which has a different rule

There was me thinking we had a speedway rulebook, rather than AI, Google or Wikipedia (none of which are known for their accuracy). If you don't want to listen to me, fair enough. But I suggest that you do listen to David Howe - a former rider and current team manager - who might understand a bit more about track limits and when and where they are exceeded. And just to clarify, since I realise you haven't even bothered to watch the video, the screenshot on the Scunny website shows the clearest image. The back wheel goes further onto the centre green in the following frames, but they're not as clean an image. I really would recommend watching the slo-mo video from the rear angle instead. It's on BSN, when they are interviewing Josh Pickering. I would also recommend watching Heat 8 from the first leg and the blatant tyre warming. Without that, the tie would have never gone to a Super Heat in the first place.

Be as condescending as you like, but you're just digging yourself in deeper - the rule doesn't even mention crossing a white line. And it's not football. I don't know what else to say when you're being so deliberately obtuse. Watch the tyre warming and tell me it didn't happen.

The word "completely" does not appear in the rule - you're adding it. As for your lack of wanting to comment on the blatant tyre warming before Heat 8 at Scunthorpe, it's very telling.

The moment you mentioned football and tennis, you showed you don't understand. Different sports have different rules. The speedway rule does not mention completely crossing. Although in this case, Cook did completely cross it. Watch it in slow motion. And then try to explain why that dirt and muck is thrown up by the back wheel when it hits something that isn't shale if wasn't over the white line. But, in any case, that's irrelevant since the wheel doesn't have to completely cross, if you actually bother to read the rule. Of course, its position in the tie means the Super Heat is going to grab most of the attention. Although the tyre warming in Heat 8 at Scunthorpe is more blatant. I don't think anyone could argue that one at all. That's the one which was blatant cheating.

It's not my interpretation at all - THIS is the rule (which was clearly broken): 012.1.11 Leaving the Track A rider whose machine crosses the inner edge of the track with 2 wheels must be disqualified unless, in the opinion of the Referee, the action was taken in the interests of safety for other riders or the rider involved was forced off course by another rider.

Exactly. Any future rule didn't count on Wednesday. Just the current one.

Both wheels did cross over the white line. But it's whether they have to cross over 100%. I think they did on Wednesday in any case, but the rule doesn't even stipulate that they have to. Both wheels were over the line for probably up to 1 second. Both wheels were 100% over the line for probably only 0.1% of a second (when all the soft soil on the inside of the line was kicked up, with the other evidence being the rear tyre track that Ryan Ingram took photos of).

The actual rule is: 012.1.11 Leaving the Track A rider whose machine crosses the inner edge of the track with 2 wheels must be disqualified unless, in the opinion of the Referee, the action was taken in the interests of safety for other riders or the rider involved was forced off course by another rider. I would say the wheel does go entirely over the line (remember speedway tyres are not exactly wide), but it didn't need to, in any case. It's just whether both wheels had crossed the inner edge (in other words, both wheels are entirely or partially on the centre green). Both wheels quite clearly do. Note the word "must" unless taken in the interests of safety. I don't think passing another rider counts as the interests of safety. It's an automatic exclusion - both wheels were on the centre green.

Yep, wheel over! That's what Ryan Ingram was taking the photos of afterwards - proof that the back wheel went over Hopefully Carrington will be removed as a referee

You absolute pillock

Getting your excuses in early?

Because it was Poole both times and they always push the boundaries of the rulebook. Some would say they cheat, but I'm being kind.

Are there no opticians in Poole?

So did Scunny for the cup final in 2023. But a play-off final isn't a cup final. It's bigger than that - it decides the league championship

This is very funny, especially the audio:

Are you actually for rea? The dates were added to the Edinburgh website 7 days ago. I think you're on the wind up

It can only be extended if Glasgow show evidence of trying to sign a replacement for Howarth. Who have they tried to sign?

I fancy Scunny over 2 legs against Glasgow, especially, according to the rulebook, Tigers are down to 75% guests for Howarth for the rest of the season, now that the 28 days for a retired rider has expired.

Second best race of the night, in terms of racing. Best one was Heat 9. Where's that one?

Yup. Team planning underway. And don't forget it's NOT the end of the season, since still three home fixtures for the Chargers

Jody Scott guesting for Cheetahs

Because any declaration takes 72 hours to come into effect. It you want to see when any team declaration was made, look at the BSPL website at the date it comes into effect and deduct 3 days.

75% of fixtures reached by Poole on Saturday - no further signings permitted (Lightcap declaration was made on Saturday - you can tell that by effective date). And, yes, Ed Kennett can't guest if he doesn't have a team place.