
lucifer sam
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To get back to more important matters, I think the second division was strongest in 1950. The top ten in the averages that year were: 1 Jack Young Edinburgh 2 Arthur Forrest Halifax 3 Alan Hunt Cradley Heath 4 Ken Le Breton Ashfield 5 Phil Clarke Norwich 6 Derick Close Newcastle 7 Bob Oakley Southampton 8 Tommy Miller Glasgow 9 Pete Lansdale Plymouth 10 Bob Leverenz Norwich Those riders were already genuine superstars at that point – not just stars of the future. All the best Rob
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Graham Reeve must be referring to whether Tungate’s actions were deliberate or not (i.e. did he deliberately crash into Josh, or simply mean to shower him in shale). That he opened up the throttle and flicked out the back wheel are quite obvious from the video. This was what Rohan Tungate wrote on Twitter: “Regarding tonight’s incident with Josh Auty. It was not intentional, I was racing to the line with Alex Davies. We both raced past the line and going into turns 1 & 2. Josh had shut the throttle off and I was unable to avoid him. Most riders will understand that if shut the throttle off straight after the finish line it will be more dangerous, I hope this clears things up and I hope Josh is OK”. That makes no mention of Tungate flicking out the back wheel to shower Auty in shale, plus was he really racing to the line against Alex Davies? Doesn’t look that close to me. If he told the referee the same as he wrote on Twitter, then he was being very economical with the truth. Did Tungate tell Peter Clarke that he flicked out his back wheel or not? Or did he come up with the same story as is on Twitter? I sincerely hope that Rohan Tungate came clean and didn’t tell any porkies to the referee. All the best Rob
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Er, this was a speedway meeting, not Jackanory corner. Anyone who has read Tungate's Jackanory story and then watched the video, will have noticed a distinct difference between fiction and reality. Tungate was at best, being very, very economical with the truth; at worst, he was intentionally trying to deceive. Auty is right out wide, all these stuff about Tungate not being able to avoid him is nonsense. Tungate couldn't avoid a rider right out by the fence on the exit of the second bend on the slow-down lap??? No, that's the stuff of fiction. Let's face facts, he headed out there intentionally. Tungate could be done simply because his Twitter statement does not resemble the video evidence. He chose to tell less than 100% of the truth and the question has to be: why? All the best Rob
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And that's the exact point. To all those who say there is "no intent" - why did Tungate open the throttle back up? You can even hear that on the video. That was intentional. His action was to open the throttle and flick the back wheel towards Auty. The consequence was that he hit Auty, caused Auty to fall and caused an injury to Auty. Actions have consequences, and that's why Tungate should be punished and receive a ban. All the best Rob
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*RAINED OFF* SCORPIONS IN KEY CLASH FLUIDAIR POWER Scunthorpe Scorpions, supported by Henderson Insurance, entertain the Plymouth Devils, the team directly above them in the Premier League table at the Eddie Wright Raceway on Friday evening (7.30pm). The Scorpions - blighted with injury throughout 2015 - are currently bottom of the Premier League, and need to make sure they win their next three home meetings against Plymouth (Friday), Newcastle (August 7) and Redcar (August 14), who are all teams also in the lower reaches of the league table. Ex-Scorpion Thomas Jorgensen comes in for the injured No 1 Josh Auty. Auty is back on the sidelines in somewhat controversial circumstances, after Ipswich’s Rohan Tungate rode straight into him post-race following Heat 10 at Scunthorpe last week. Auty had just returned from a nine-week break with a broken hand, and it won’t be clear until the swelling goes down, just how soon he will be able to return, if at all this season. Nike Lunna is riding in the Finish Under-21 Championship, so he is replaced at No 7 by another former Scorpion, Benji Compton. Scunthorpe promoter Rob Godfrey says: “One look at the league table reveals why we really want to make sure that we win on Friday night. We need to catch up the teams above us, because we really don’t to finish bottom of the league. “Ideally we want not only the win, but also to stop Plymouth taking any points at all on Friday evening.” The last two meetings at the Eddie Wright Raceway have been full of brilliant racing and incident, with Peterborough beaten 47-43 at the last gasp, while last week’s encounter with Ipswich (which the Witches won eventually 47-43) almost defies description – containing everything including a punch-up and a sit-down protest. Godfrey adds: “I’m sure it’s bound to be another cracking evening of action around the best speedway track in the country. As the last two weeks have shown, you never want to miss a meeting at Scunthorpe Speedway, because you never quite know what’s going to happen next! “With everything that went on last Friday, what almost got pushed to the side, was how good the racing was. There was some absolutely great stuff. “I’m delighted to have Thomas Jorgensen back as a guest, because he was just superb against Peterborough a fortnight ago, combining with two 5-1s with Ryan Douglas, to turn the match around in our favour, just when it looked we were about dead and buried. “Thomas will always give his all when guesting for us, and our other guest, Benji Compton, is another who will never give anything less than 100%. We wish Nike good luck in his quest to win the Finnish Under-21 Championship.” Friday sees the start of a special promotion, which will last to the end of the 2015 season, which sees all accompanied children under the age of 16 admitted for free to home Scorpions’ meetings. “We’re always looking to attract more younger fans”, says Godfrey. “And this offer is part of that. It’s now the school holidays, and if you’re a parent, I can’t think of a better way than keeping your kids entertained on a Friday evening than bringing them along here!” There are 24 heats of action in total on Friday, with a nine-race second half including a six-heat Midland Development League match between Scunthorpe & Milton Keynes. Admission prices for Friday: Adult: £15.00 Student/OAP: £13.00 Child (16 – 17): £5.00 Child (0 – 15) Free (accompanied by paying adult) Family Ticket £35 (2 adults, 2 Children 16-17) Match Programme: £1.00 Expected teams for Friday: FluidAir Power Scunthorpe Scorpions, supported by Henderson Insurance: 1. Thomas Jorgensen (guest for Josh Auty), 2. Alex Davies, 3. Theo Pijper, 4. Carl Wilkinson, 5. Ryan Douglas, 6. Ben Wilson, 7. Benji Compton (guest for Nike Lunna). Plymouth Devils: 1. Ryan Fisher, 2. Morten Risager, 3. Jack Holder, 4. Todd Kurtz, 5. Kyle Newman, 6. Sam Simota, 7. Rafal Konopka (guest for Roland Benko). Midland Development League teams: Scunthorpe Stags: 1. Chris Bambury, 2. Sam Chapman, 3. Luke Whitehead, 4. Kurtis Scarboro. Milton Keynes Knights: 1. Tom Bacon, 2. Robert Watts, 3. TBA, 4. Robert Parker. Plymouth Devils at EWR Ave Ave Name Lge M R Pts BP (no BP) (w BP) Best Performance Ryan Fisher PL 5 24 48 2 8.00 8.33 13 + 1 from 5 rides (2008) Jack Holder DEBUT PL MEETING @ EWR Todd Kurtz PL 8 36 45 8 5.00 5.89 12 + 2 from 5 rides (2014) Kyle Newman PL 4 17 14 3 3.29 4.00 7 + 1 from 4 rides (2013) Morten Risager PL 6 23 22 2 3.83 4.17 7 + 1 from 4 rides (2014) Zdenek Simota PL 1 4 3 1 3.00 4 3 + 1 from 4 rides (2014) GUEST RIDER Rafal Konopka PL 6 25 17 3 2.72 3.20 5 + 1 from 6 rides (2015) Ryan Fisher Has represented his Country in 13 World Cup meetings. Member of Edinburgh's Premier League Championship, Premier Trophy and Play-off Winning Teams in 2008. Member of Edinburgh's Premier League Play-offs Winning Team in 2009. Member of Edinburgh's Premier League Championship Winning Team in 2010. Jack Holder 2011 Australian Under-16 350cc Champion. 2013 New South Wales Under-21 Champion. Todd Kurtz Member of Newport's Premier League KO Cup Winning Team in 2011. Member of Somerset's Premier Shield and Four-Team Championship Winning Teams in 2014. Kyle Newman Winner of Queensland State Under-21 Championships in 2011. Member of Weymouth's Conference League Championship Winning Team in 2008. Member of Bournemouth's National League Championship and KO Cup Winning Teams in 2009. Member of Newcastle's Premier Shield Winning Team in 2011. Member of Poole's Elite League Championship Winning Team in 2011. Member of Somerset's League Cup Winning Team in 2012. Member of Somerset's Premier League Championship and KO Cup Winning Teams in 2013. Member of Poole's Elite League Championship Winning Team in 2014. Member of Poole's Elite Shield Winning Teams in 2014 and 2015. Morten Risager Has ridden in 1 Speedway Grand Prix meeting. Member of Coventry's Elite League Championship Winning Teams in 2005 and 2007. Member of Coventry's Elite Shield Winning Team in 2006. Member of Ipswich's Premier League Four-Team Championship Winning Team in 2011. Zdenek Simota Has ridden in 2 Grand Prix and 5 World Cup meetings. Made his British League debut in the 2005 Premier League with Reading. 2004 Czech Republic Under-21 Champion. Plymouth Devils' PL Results at EWR 19 August 2011 PL L Scunthorpe 56 Plymouth 37 02 September 2012 PL L Scunthorpe 54 Plymouth 39 16 August 2013 PL L Scunthorpe 56 Plymouth 34 27 April 2014 PL L Scunthorpe 52 Plymouth 43 (stats by John Eyre)
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Ipswich Vs Glasgow 23rd July 7.30 Pm
lucifer sam replied to ZODIAK's topic in SGB Championship League Speedway
Whether it's 14 or 28 day-ban is up to the club. In 2005, Henka Gustafsson had a miss an Oxford meeting because he was due to also ride for his Swedish club that night, who needed to win that meeting to avoid relegation and he'd been riding for them forever and Oxford two minutes. Nigel Wagstaff thought that was a good enough reason, so placed a 14-day ban on Henka (allowing Oxford to use facilties for him) rather than 28 days. And then Henka was free to rejoin Oxford that much sooner for the rest of our ulitamely successful Craven Shield campaign. All the best Rob -
Aren't they two seeded spots for the GP Challenge? Give Ward one of those. If he qualifies, then he qualifies, if he doesn't, then he doesn't. All the best Rob
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Er, so you're calling Jenga (Workington), Spin King (Sheffield), the Scotsman (Edinburgh, I think) etc, etc, Scunthorpe fans?? And the video evidence is absolutely fine - anyone with eyes can see Tungate speed up and his flick of his back wheel, that causes Auty to come crashing down. In fact, the video evidence is remarkably good, given it was taken from crowd level. Hats off to the cameraman. What Tungate meant to do is open for debate. But there was always a chance that by doing what he did (grabbing the throttle, aiming his bike towards Josh, and flicking out the back wheel), he would wipe out Auty and that's what he did. Actions have consequences. And I believe the only person reported to the SCB was Tungate (others riders were fined, but not reported), so you're barking down the wrong tree with your other comments as well. All the best Rob
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I'm sure I saw Rob G and Phil H cuddling each other and exchanging a laugh just after the handbags between Ashley Morris and Nike Lunna's mechanic. And fair play to Phil for going onto the mic at the end... it was obvious he was going to get a reception, but he did it anyway, and wished Scunny the best for the future. It was slightly surreal at times on Friday - I don't think I've ever been to a speedway meeting quite like that one. All the best Rob
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Exactly. I've trawled all though the riders competing in the 1963 Southern-League-that-wasn't-a-league and can't find the name of a Darcy at all. I wish people would stop going off topic, and we can get back to discussing the relative strengths of the second tier over time. All the best Rob
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Agree Norbold. Only the main league programme counts as a league, rather than any secondary competitions. It gets a bit complicated when you start including e.g. the Midland League from 1980. Although Middlesbrough in 1966 is an interesting one, since they rode in the Northern League only and not the British League. All the best Rob
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Have you read the last few pages? All the best Rob
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Didn't Peter Collins, Chris Morton and Dave Morton all ride around the same field in Manchester? If so, that field is better than half the teams in the current Elite League, plus 22 Polish sides. All the best Rob
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Does anyone? :D Just checked Hawkeye, which reveals: March 16: Lee makes Boston debut, the first of 39 appearances for Boston in 1975. March 28: Lee makes KL debut, the first of 27 appearances for KL in 1975. So Lee was never just a NL rider, as per my original statement. Point overturned. Championship to Lucifer Sam, while TWK says "you cannot be serious" and breaks his racket. All the best Rob