wtf Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 People will believe what they want to believe, the press will print what THEY want you to believe, clubs and riders will issue statements and tweets about what THEY want you to believe. The smell of BS is overwhelming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 21 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: Nobody seems to know the real circumstances on here and a 'family issue' can also be pretty stressful, affecting you mentally. The BSPL seem to be consistent with all previous decisions referred to on here because they say you cannot return within seven days unless cleared by them, which he seems to have been? Where have you seen or read that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 16 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: To cause a distraction... Looking at next season what if Crumpy only rides in the championship with Plymouth and leaves the top level racing, and throws his hat into managing the Witches? Would people like to see it? Not sure Jason would want to turn up to every ipswich meeting for some petrol money and to fill in a programme, compared to what he gets now. If you want to believe he's here for the love of the sport and to give something back, that's up to you. I think you'll find he's doing very nicely out of both jobs right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Skid Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Technik said: You don't need to undergo an SCB review for "Family Issues" It is well documented that he has a mental health illness & this was the problem again. The problem is he is playing this card each & every time to get out of trouble & many now think the boy has cried wolf once to often. He knows how to play the system well, always stays one step ahead of controversy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 19 hours ago, gazzac said: Having seen him in his prime, probably time to call it a day, hate for him to have an even worse injury(s) than he had this year. Management maybe a different thing if it materialised , although great riders don't always make great managers think he would be pretty good though. There is no doubt the Jason would make a brilliant team manager/coach but one thing I think he would want would be team training/practice facilities. Someone never giving the credit he deserved by the media for his team managing/rider development skills was Jason's grandfather Neil Street & I would expect Jason to be equally as good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 10:36 AM, bigcatdiary said: Bottom line is Cook withheld his services for whatever reason and clearly Ipswich reported that and rightly got a facility. The upshot of that is Riders are then given generally a 7 day suspension or longer depending on circumstances, as the Ipswich press release says his return is subject to SCB approval. A lot of the problem is clubs don’t properly explain riders absences, Pedersen and Palin are missing for the Panthers, nothings been said explaining why, either by Peterborough Plymouth or Scunthorpe. Its doesn’t help but fuel suspicion and rumour on the internet. http://scunthorpe-speedway.com/?p=13307 Jordan Palin Racing #10 (@JordanPalinUK) / Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 12 hours ago, bigcatdiary said: Where have you seen or read that Of your referring to the last bit, just taking what Ipswich said officially that Cook would return tonight subject to BSPL/SCB approval. He rode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Pretty shocking by the majority of Ipswich riders this year, bar Danny King. He’s been absolutely fantastic in amongst a pile of pure sh!t. The likes of Jake Allen (the biggest culprit and at the bottom of the pile of dung) will come up smelling of roses though. Now on a very handy average of 4.Something or other, he will no doubt be a trump card for somebody. I hope that somebody isn’t Ipswich though. Let someone else benefit from his low average. If he lines up as a Witch next year, count me out. His efforts this year have been pathetic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Pretty shocking by the majority of Ipswich riders this year, bar Danny King. He’s been absolutely fantastic in amongst a pile of pure sh!t. The likes of Jake Allen (the biggest culprit and at the bottom of the pile of dung) will come up smelling of roses though. Now on a very handy average of 4.Something or other, he will no doubt be a trump card for somebody. I hope that somebody isn’t Ipswich though. Let someone else benefit from his low average. If he lines up as a Witch next year, count me out. His efforts this year have been pathetic. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 10 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: Of your referring to the last bit, just taking what Ipswich said officially that Cook would return tonight subject to BSPL/SCB approval. He rode. Pleased he did, you would have been better served with a guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Pretty shocking by the majority of Ipswich riders this year, bar Danny King. He’s been absolutely fantastic in amongst a pile of pure sh!t. The likes of Jake Allen (the biggest culprit and at the bottom of the pile of dung) will come up smelling of roses though. Now on a very handy average of 4.Something or other, he will no doubt be a trump card for somebody. I hope that somebody isn’t Ipswich though. Let someone else benefit from his low average. If he lines up as a Witch next year, count me out. His efforts this year have been pathetic. What will be interesting if he recovers to ride for Redcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 He's down to ride still..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Pretty shocking by the majority of Ipswich riders this year, bar Danny King. He’s been absolutely fantastic in amongst a pile of pure sh!t. The likes of Jake Allen (the biggest culprit and at the bottom of the pile of dung) will come up smelling of roses though. Now on a very handy average of 4.Something or other, he will no doubt be a trump card for somebody. I hope that somebody isn’t Ipswich though. Let someone else benefit from his low average. If he lines up as a Witch next year, count me out. His efforts this year have been pathetic. That's unlike you to be so scathing,,, it must have really got to you. Anyway, according to Louis in the radio,, there is going to be a complete clear out for next year with only Danny worthy of a place. Let's see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: That's unlike you to be so scathing,,, it must have really got to you. Anyway, according to Louis in the radio,, there is going to be a complete clear out for next year with only Danny worthy of a place. Let's see how that goes. A few riders are on keen averages now though, I wouldn't be surprised if 3 or 4 from this year are in next Who is part of the golfing team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 57 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: A few riders are on keen averages now though, I wouldn't be surprised if 3 or 4 from this year are in next Who is part of the golfing team? And that is the problem,,,, but they are on those averages for a reason,,, and it isn't because they have been good. Personally I would get shot of most of them to. Ipswich don't help themselves by not having an individual to check out the latest young talent from around the world. It seems they are happy ish to just plod along,,if punters still pay. In fact, last nights crowd was very good indeed,,,, Louis is a lucky lad,, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Racin Jason 72 said: What will be interesting if he recovers to ride for Redcar Why wouldn't he?He felt crap after his covid jab didn't he?When i had mine i felt absolutely awful the day after like i had the proper flu.But then the day after that i was fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon1983 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 looking at the averages Witches Started with Crump 8.00 Klindt 7.43 King 6.66 Heeps 6.30 Stewart 4.00 Rowe 3.00 Kemp 3.00* Allen came in on a 5.56 to replace Klindt so Witches already lost 1.87 straight off Looking at the numbers from the last declaration Crump 5.54 (a loss of 2.46) Cook 7.23 (a loss of 0.36 having joined on a 7.59) King 7.46 (an increase of 0.80) Allen 4.88 (a loss of 0.68) Starke 4.85 (an increase of 0.58 having joined on a 4.27) Rowe 4.84 (an increase of 1.84 on his accessed average, although he had a season high average of 5.49 so could argue a loss) I think as Chris Louis said last night, the gamble with Crumpy failed, taking the injury aside, would it be any different? I think maybe an averge of 6/6.5 but still a huge drop from a starting average of 8.00, the loss of Klindt was a big loss perhaps the biggest loss of all, then you have 3 riders left 2 of which featured heavily at reserve at one stage and benefited but didn't within the main body of the team, and one rider who was left in the main body of the team who could of benefited from being at reserve for a while. Unfortunately none of us really see what goes on behind the scenes to understand who what when and why If its the same regs next season (probably won't be) i'd like to see the following Danny King Sam Jensen Hans Andersen Jason Crump Nicolai Klindt Jake Allen Anders Rowe R/S or if a drop down to the Championship something like Danny King Adam Ellis Jason Crump these 3 as a heat leader trio maybe a Tom Brennan plus a new foreigner such as Matthew Gilmore or Mads Hansen two from Drew Kemp / Dan Thompson / Jordan Jenkins for the reserve sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin bass Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 I think it was spoke about going to two RS next year per team, mind you it'll all change b4 then and probably not for the better either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: looking at the averages Witches Started with Crump 8.00 Klindt 7.43 King 6.66 Heeps 6.30 Stewart 4.00 Rowe 3.00 Kemp 3.00* As much stick as Cam got for his early form (and yes I agree he didn't quite look on it) at the time of his injury he was only 2 race points short of matching his average Post injury he was for a spell quite frankly dire. I think he probably shouldn't have been riding in truth. More recently though he has shown some signs of better form Wouldn't be shocked at all to see him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: looking at the averages Witches Started with Crump 8.00 Klindt 7.43 King 6.66 Heeps 6.30 Stewart 4.00 Rowe 3.00 Kemp 3.00* As much stick as Cam got for his early form (and yes I agree he didn't quite look on it) at the time of his injury he was only 2 race points short of matching his average Post injury he was for a spell quite frankly dire. I think he probably shouldn't have been riding in truth. More recently though he has shown some signs of better form Wouldn't be shocked at all to see him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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