Wolverhampton 2025

[Neila]

On 11/2/2023 at 10:23 AM, Beowulf said:

Track, pits and grass banking will do me for starters ! The key thing is planning permission. A site at i54 has been mentioned and that could be under the auspices of South Staffs council,  or jointly with Wolverhampton council, so that particular site might have complications but we can't consider anything until the location is revealed. The site that they are looking at is within 15 minutes of Wolverhampton, and you can go a fair way in 15 minutes of driving.

If you get planning permission,  take a look at northside arena in Workington,  to see what can be built, but you won't need as much space as Wolverhampton not used to big tracks 

Good luck for the future 

Edited November 5, 2023 by Neila

[arnieg]

59 minutes ago, Neila said:

If you get planning permission,  take a look at northside arena in Workington,  to see what can be built, but you won't need as much space as Wolverhampton not used to big tracks 

Good luck for the future 

I think Workington was modelled on Redcar. And who was one of the principal architects of Redcar?

 

Chris van Straten.

[AceBelle]

14 minutes ago, arnieg said:

I think Workington was modelled on Redcar. And who was one of the principal architects of Redcar?

 

Chris van Straten.

more like NSS with wide open spaces and banking very similar !! steve lawson there regular with bewley !!

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

Still nobody is trying to get wolves back, there are a few fans keeping the name alive with banners at different tracks but nobody is really doing anything, me and heathens next generation have had a conversation with the stadium manager at monmore a few months back who was very sympathetic to our plight saying it wasn’t the stadium that kicked wolves out it was entain itself and he forwarded an email to entain on our behalf, they did say no to a return but used the words not at this time ??? Does that mean maybe in the future ??  The point I’m making here is it needs someone who is a potential promotion to approach entain, it’s no good me doing it as I’m just fan, on another note, nobody has tried harder than heathens next generation to get cradley back, we have visited many locations with 2 being absolutely perfect locations had been identified, we have done everything including plans, deals and everything only to run into a brick wall that is the council, we will be trying another location next week but it not through lack of trying, I just wish the same could be said about wolves 

[YeOldPitGate]

2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Still nobody is trying to get wolves back, there are a few fans keeping the name alive with banners at different tracks but nobody is really doing anything, me and heathens next generation have had a conversation with the stadium manager at monmore a few months back who was very sympathetic to our plight saying it wasn’t the stadium that kicked wolves out it was entain itself and he forwarded an email to entain on our behalf, they did say no to a return but used the words not at this time ??? Does that mean maybe in the future ??  The point I’m making here is it needs someone who is a potential promotion to approach entain, it’s no good me doing it as I’m just fan, on another note, nobody has tried harder than heathens next generation to get cradley back, we have visited many locations with 2 being absolutely perfect locations had been identified, we have done everything including plans, deals and everything only to run into a brick wall that is the council, we will be trying another location next week but it not through lack of trying, I just wish the same could be said about wolves 

Any mileage if the right sight could be found central to them both running two teams from the same track Dean like Inter & AC Milan do in footy , appreciate finding a site is easier said than done.

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

10 minutes ago, YeOldPitGate said:

Any mileage if the right sight could be found central to them both running two teams from the same track Dean like Inter & AC Milan do in footy , appreciate finding a site is easier said than done.

That was the plan if entain would play ball, wolves on a Monday and cradley on a Wednesday, under separate promotions giving entain double the rent but that’s a no go at this moment in time,finding the sites are not really the problem, it’s the councils, they say one thing in public but do the opposite in reality 

[Toady]

As good a time as any, you would think.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-16167165/Ladbrokes-owner-Entain-crashes-six-year-low-Brazil-bans-online-gambling.html

[Colinspeedway]

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3971

Could the changes with the asset of community value regime benefit speedway? 

Recent cases of a pub and nightclub. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm89j4z4p4jno

https://www.timeout.com/london/news/heaven-asset-of-community-value-status-developers-protection-093026

[Pinny]

4 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

Still nobody is trying to get wolves back, there are a few fans keeping the name alive with banners at different tracks but nobody is really doing anything, me and heathens next generation have had a conversation with the stadium manager at monmore a few months back who was very sympathetic to our plight saying it wasn’t the stadium that kicked wolves out it was entain itself and he forwarded an email to entain on our behalf, they did say no to a return but used the words not at this time ??? Does that mean maybe in the future ??  The point I’m making here is it needs someone who is a potential promotion to approach entain, it’s no good me doing it as I’m just fan, on another note, nobody has tried harder than heathens next generation to get cradley back, we have visited many locations with 2 being absolutely perfect locations had been identified, we have done everything including plans, deals and everything only to run into a brick wall that is the council, we will be trying another location next week but it not through lack of trying, I just wish the same could be said about wolves 

There clearly isn't the demand for it back.

No good sulking and stamping your feet on here. The sport is absolutely on its arse in the UK. Look at the money Workington are losing and you would imagine Northampton will be losing next season etc. The sport never moved on from years gone by and is still stuck in the 70s/80s and the people who were fans then are either too old or have passed away.

The sport had the world at its feet when Sky Sports first got involved but made an absolute ballsup of that and now look at it. 
 

I loved going to Newport every week from the relaunch until its closure but realise the crowds werent there, promotion losing money etc, sometimes its best to enjoy the good memories and move on. Wolves aren't wanted at Monmore and theres no big effort to get them anywhere else, that should tell you something. 

[Colinspeedway]

7 minutes ago, Pinny said:

There clearly isn't the demand for it back.

No good sulking and stamping your feet on here. The sport is absolutely on its arse in the UK. Look at the money Workington are losing and you would imagine Northampton will be losing next season etc. The sport never moved on from years gone by and is still stuck in the 70s/80s and the people who were fans then are either too old or have passed away.

The sport had the world at its feet when Sky Sports first got involved but made an absolute ballsup of that and now look at it. 
 

I loved going to Newport every week from the relaunch until its closure but realise the crowds werent there, promotion losing money etc, sometimes its best to enjoy the good memories and move on. Wolves aren't wanted at Monmore and theres no big effort to get them anywhere else, that should tell you something. 

Northampton set to have a good crowd on Saturday. I get your point and some clubs obviously struggled such as Stoke and Birmingham but Wolves always got a good crowd. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Colinspeedway

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

9 minutes ago, Pinny said:

There clearly isn't the demand for it back.

No good sulking and stamping your feet on here. The sport is absolutely on its arse in the UK. Look at the money Workington are losing and you would imagine Northampton will be losing next season etc. The sport never moved on from years gone by and is still stuck in the 70s/80s and the people who were fans then are either too old or have passed away.

The sport had the world at its feet when Sky Sports first got involved but made an absolute ballsup of that and now look at it. 
 

I loved going to Newport every week from the relaunch until its closure but realise the crowds werent there, promotion losing money etc, sometimes its best to enjoy the good memories and move on. Wolves aren't wanted at Monmore and theres no big effort to get them anywhere else, that should tell you something. 

You are right about the sport in general but totally wrong about wolves, unfortunately most wolves fans are still relying on CVS to do something but sadly he isn’t interested anymore, it’s needs someone else to front it, we had a couple of people in mind had we had a positive reply from entain but at this time we don’t but we will keep trying, I’m not sulking or stamping my feet, I just posted on here to keep it in the public, thanks for your negative reply 

[noaksey]

Hard to see where a prospective promoter for Wolves might come from apart from people already involved in the sport elsewhere who might consider Wolves to be a decent proposition 

There was a rumour a while back that the Oxford promotion might be potentially interested but that was sometime ago now

I've been a Wolves fan since the 70's and can't think of anyone from the fanbase who might step up, I can't even envisage a national league/Nora type consortium 

 

 

[YeOldPitGate]

36 minutes ago, Colinspeedway said:

Northampton set to have a good crowd on Saturday. I get your point and some clubs obviously struggled such as Stoke and Birmingham but Wolves always got a good crowd. 

Plus from memory when Cradley were in the national league running at Wolves they were getting in excess of 2k per meeting, I totally get Pinny's point but if there's one track that could relaunch and get decent crowds my bet is Cradley would be it.

[Pinny]

CVS obviously isnt going to be interested, hes getting on in age now to say the least and has had to overcome some serious illnesses. 
 

I have seen at least 20 people on the Newport sos page saying how they miss the sport and its an outrage the council hasn't brought it back etc.. yet i didnt see them attend a Newport meeting since the Smart and Henriksson days. People come out once its too late in support but weren't there when the club needed them. 
 

I know circs are different at Wolves regarding the closure but expecting anyone to put money into a club to start again when they can see whats happening to the sport around them is insane. I am stunned Northampton happened to be honest, yes they are getting good crowds now but all new clubs do for the first season or 2. Once fans get sick of seeing a poor side they drop off thats why its crucial Northampton have a decent team next year.