THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 2ndbend123 said: Time will tell watch this space. HMRC have been banging on the doors for 2 years now time is up. When the last accounts were filed the new current track and Workington speedway didn’t exist, just the little training track, that could explain why nothing has been filed under that account ? And it runs now under a different account But we don’t know do we Edited June 29 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: When the last accounts were filed the new current track and Workington speedway didn’t exist, just the little training track, that could explain why nothing has been filed under that account ? But we don’t know do we HMRC have been on to them for a while now, and warned this will happen if they don’t file accounts. Here we now are where HMRC have now followed that through. Going to take a lot longer than 7 days to fix, shouldn’t of rode the Plymouth match as had no insurance or licences to run one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: HMRC have been on to them for a while now, and warned this will happen if they don’t file accounts. Here we now are where HMRC have now followed that through. Going to take a lot longer than 7 days to fix, shouldn’t have rode the Plymouth match as had no insurance or licences to run one. I find it hard to believe that someone with a profile such as Workington wouldn’t file an account, paying up on that account yes but filling one ? Even crooks file accounts they just tend to miss bits off or add bits on Edited June 29 by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike baker Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 Why dont Workington offer an OAP concession. Went there for the first time, for the Pairs. No concession, and it was a shared event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 Who needs an accountant when you can get a flatulent dog 🐕 💨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 (edited) 12 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I find it hard to believe that someone with a profile such as Workington wouldn’t file an account, paying up on that account yes but filling one ? Even crooks file accounts they just tend to miss bits off or add bits on July 2023 was the last time they filed accounts. Link here. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04261535/filing-history Edited June 29 by Mr Blobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellbob Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 23 hours ago, YeOldPitGate said: Sadly its a proper mess the promoters take flak and as Mike BV has said before they are well meaning amateurs, look at poor old Tolley he's made some proper howlers but equally the poor old boy has probably poured somewhere between 500k to a mil down the toilet such is his commitment. Most of the promoters have other business's where I guess they operate successfully, I truly think the last role of the dice might be 8 five man teams operating at current championship standard the rest need to be national league standard but maybe let a couple of foreign youngsters in at that level but only if they commit to the entire season in the UK. Accept we are a training ground for Poland run on the best night to get fans in not what the riders want to work best for them, I love seeing the top lads but my guess is for what they are costings per meeting to extra fans through the gate its probably not enough to cover half their weekly guarantee. Look when Brum got Lindgren crowd figures barely went up, Lambert comes back to Lynn for a few weeks that doesn't mean another 1k through the gate. Also as Mike has mentioned before you have seven teams in top league, two woefully understrength , you see the same riders all the time, with 2/3 home and away, guest fests so you can see why most don't bother until you get to the semi's and the final. I remember in the 80's when Gunderson or Nielson turned up you went as that was probably the only one time you would see them all year. I wish I knew the answers but the doubling up, running on unattractive days of the week, guests galore, Brexit/Visa's, riders signing for a couple of months known up front after people have bought season tickets, Netflix, Sky , Play stations, bowling alleys, multi plex cinema's, hundreds of eateries open on a Sat night massive competition for a quid now. You would though have thought that promoters would have tried to get those who no longer attend to fill in a questionnaire as to why they fell out of love if its not for the reasons already listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 6 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: July 2023 was the last time they filed accounts. Link here. https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/04261535/filing-history I’ve seen and when did Workington speedway as we know it open ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCS Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 whats a confirmation statement which was filed in september 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: I’ve seen and when did Workington speedway as we know it open ? Would’ve been that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: Would’ve been that year. So he wouldn’t of needed to file accounts till 2024 and what if that’s under a different name like many tracks are, I don’t know anything about Workington company’s or who holds the accounts or anything, I’m just saying it’s a bit strong to call someone a crook when we don’t know Edited June 29 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 3 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: So he wouldn’t of needed to file accounts till 2024 and what if that’s under a different name like many tracks are From my understanding it’s not under a different name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 34 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: HMRC have been on to them for a while now, and warned this will happen if they don’t file accounts. Here we now are where HMRC have now followed that through. HMRC have nothing to do with company registrations. That's Companies House HMRC is the tax man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 3 hours ago, kevcfc said: Berwick obviously not expecting this to be sorted anytime soon 👀 Poole think they will be okay for the 12th!! 🤷♀️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 2 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said: From my understanding it’s not under a different name. I don’t know what name they run under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul84 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 22 minutes ago, mike baker said: Why dont Workington offer an OAP concession. Went there for the first time, for the Pairs. No concession, and it was a shared event. The pairs was a British speedway event held at Workington so the club had no involvement in the prices for that meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 3 hours ago, truthsayer said: Not enough riders, not enough venues, not enough income to sustain a professional sport. I don't see a future for British speedway as a professional sport, and I don't see any desire to repackage it as an amateur/grassroots/competitor focussed sport. It's an outdated product held at outdated venues, which will not attract a new audience or competitor base. Any talk about standardised engines, scrapping playoffs and wokeness (whatever that means) does nothing to address the core problem. Typical crowd levels today dictate that a realignment of the sport is almost unavoidable.In my opinion It needs to be semi professional in an effort to reduce costs. More riders will need other forms of employment in addition to riding speedway. I do not necessarily believe it is an outdated product, but certain venues are outdated as is the way the sport is marketed and promoted. For me personally, one league has to be the way forward. This should hopefully create more meaningful fixtures while also encouraging a stronger identification of fans with 'their' riders and vice versa because they won't be riding in both leagues. If riders reckon they can't make one league pay then that is up to them. Rider costs at many clubs are simply not sustainable, more clubs will disappear untill it all comes crashing down. I see situation as that serious. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 32 minutes ago, mike baker said: Why dont Workington offer an OAP concession. Went there for the first time, for the Pairs. No concession, and it was a shared event. Since opening at Northside(2023) there's no OAP concession given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul84 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 Here’s hoping we’re back on track sooner rather than later. As everyone is aware the promotion and everyone at the club have put so much into Workington Speedway and in my biased opinion is best set up for speedway in the country the track and views are unmatched all this in only a few years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 Paying Tax should be optional and not mandatory. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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