SUPERACE Posted Sunday at 10:18 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:18 PM 10 hours ago, StarBoy said: Think you’ll find Jake Mulford was actually dropped previously for Conor Bailey… Nope Jake got injured so they replaced him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted Sunday at 10:51 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:51 PM 31 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: Nope Jake got injured so they replaced him. Connor Mountain was dropped for young Tate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted Monday at 09:28 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 09:28 AM 10 hours ago, foreverblue said: Connor Mountain was dropped for young Tate. He wasn't a rising star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted Monday at 10:15 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 10:15 AM 44 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: He wasn't a rising star. No otherwise Tate could not have replaced him but I dont think Mountain qualified as an rs anyway. I think sticking with Jake maybe a mistake but I suppose as always Belle Vue want to be seen as supporting their rs so wont drop him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted Monday at 11:30 AM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:30 AM 20 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: I'd be surprised if he gets a 28 day ban He missed one ride having said he didn't feel fit to ride The medic refused to sign him off but how many are qualified to give a mental health assessment as opposed to the physical assessment you expected them to deal with (genuinely do not know) I'm actually surprised he wasn't allowed to withdraw. Surely you listen to the patient and give the benefit of doubt (if there was any) Perhaps he should've just gone to tapes and simply pulled up as soon as theyweere released..... Especially as his dad wanted him to withdraw apparently as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted Tuesday at 02:11 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:11 PM One has to question whether this compulsory "rising star" in the PL is actually a good thing ? Seems to me "rising stars" are just a bunch of riders that clubs are forced to track one per side. When they flop clubs are lumbered wiht having to pick another "rising star" replacement. All sounds like forcefeeding these youngsters into the PL whether they want to or not. The good ones would have probably got their chances anyhow. Does "rising star" status actually benefit anybody - other thatn theclubs who get a cheap number 7. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted Tuesday at 02:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:12 PM One has to question whether this compulsory "rising star" in the PL is actually a good thing ? Seems to me "rising stars" are just a bunch of riders that clubs are forced to track one per side. When they flop clubs are lumbered wiht having to pick another "rising star" replacement. All sounds like forcefeeding these youngsters into the PL whether they want to or not. The good ones would have probably got their chances anyhow. Does "rising star" status actually benefit anybody - other than theclubs who get a cheap number 7. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castrolargh Posted Tuesday at 02:17 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:17 PM 2 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: One has to question whether this compulsory "rising star" in the PL is actually a good thing ? Seems to me "rising stars" are just a bunch of riders that clubs are forced to track one per side. When they flop clubs are lumbered wiht having to pick another "rising star" replacement. All sounds like forcefeeding these youngsters into the PL whether they want to or not. The good ones would have probably got their chances anyhow. Does "rising star" status actually benefit anybody - other than theclubs who get a cheap number 7. ? It should have been compulsory in the 2nd tier to bridge the gap between ndl and championship. That would be the more logical step,and then maybe have 2 under 24 british riders in the premiership reserve berths 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Tuesday at 05:13 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:13 PM 2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: One has to question whether this compulsory "rising star" in the PL is actually a good thing ? Seems to me "rising stars" are just a bunch of riders that clubs are forced to track one per side. When they flop clubs are lumbered wiht having to pick another "rising star" replacement. All sounds like forcefeeding these youngsters into the PL whether they want to or not. The good ones would have probably got their chances anyhow. Does "rising star" status actually benefit anybody - other than the clubs who get a cheap number 7. ? I'm a massive fan of the RS system, would be happy for it to be in the Champ as well as the Prem, but not instead of. All sounds like force feeding these youngsters into the PL whether they want to or not. The riders clearly want to be in the Prem otherwise they wouldn't be on the RS list! The good ones would have probably got their chances anyhow. Possibly, but not always, as the points limit can always leave good promising young Brits without a team. Look at Dan Thompson, no Champ team wanted him at the start of 2023. Connor Bailey didn't have a Champ team the year he was U21 Champ I believe, then someone got injured & he got a place, but wasn't a first pick. If the rising stars all had 1 point averages because they only beat each other in heats 2 & 8, then I'd agree it hasn't worked. But there will always be reserves who struggle, that's not the RS system that's caused it, look at Zischke & Gusts for example? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted yesterday at 11:08 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:08 AM From Ashton's FB page today "Signed out injured with my shoulder good luck to both my teams kings Lynn & Glasgow. I am not sure when i will be fit to come back but I am feeling exhausted from it all at the moment so the injury has come at the right time. Thanks to everyone who’s asked how I am" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStarsFan91 Posted yesterday at 11:51 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:51 AM The rising star looks likely to be either Hagon or Harrison, I’d go for Hagon though as he’s got the experience. Klindt and Iversen seriously need looking at too though, not good enough at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted yesterday at 12:53 PM Popular Post Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:53 PM 22 hours ago, castrolargh said: It should have been compulsory in the 2nd tier to bridge the gap between ndl and championship. That would be the more logical step,and then maybe have 2 under 24 british riders in the premiership reserve berths It's scandalous that the Championship dropped the process - both reserve positions should be British newcomers in the 2nd tier No non Brit should be allowed near a 2nd tier reserve position 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted yesterday at 12:58 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:58 PM 4 minutes ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: It's scandalous that the Championship dropped the process - both reserve positions should be British newcomers in the 2nd tier No non Brit should be allowed near a 2nd tier reserve position Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted yesterday at 02:09 PM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 02:09 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, SuperStarsFan91 said: The rising star looks likely to be either Hagon or Harrison, I’d go for Hagon though as he’s got the experience. Klindt and Iversen seriously need looking at too though, not good enough at all! Our away form so far is terrible in the league, with only Lawson really going ok. So might as well forget that one. It's our home performances that make our averages look a bit better overall, as you'd expect. 6 pointers will be inconsistent, but they need to pick it up a bit. Their starting average, and where they are after the first 8 meetings. Added Cook, but he ain't had a fair crack yet. We've been unlucky with Ben. Starting ave. Cook 6.99. - 2.54 (Averaged 3.20 from 4 meetings, RR or guest 5.70 from the other 4.) Lawson 6.91. - 0.59 Klindt 6.58. - 0.24 (Stint at reserve) NKI 6.83. - 0.89 Harris 6.06. + 0.09 (Stint at reserve) Kvech 6.58. - 0.68 Not saying get rid, but they need to up it a bit. Yes i've got to much time on my hands Edited yesterday at 02:35 PM by Bald Bloke spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStarsFan91 Posted yesterday at 03:22 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:22 PM Luke Harrison at rising star 👍🏻 you’d have a thought King’s Lynn would have had the decency to tell the fans before Ipswich put it on their preview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted yesterday at 03:37 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:37 PM 11 minutes ago, SuperStarsFan91 said: Luke Harrison at rising star 👍🏻 you’d have a thought King’s Lynn would have had the decency to tell the fans before Ipswich put it on their preview It was on the Lynn website a while ago.They said they were looking at horses for courses,but obviously if he impresses you would have thought he would be a shoe in for the rest of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStarsFan91 Posted yesterday at 03:38 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:38 PM Just now, tellboy said: It was on the Lynn website a while ago.They said they were looking at horses for courses,but obviously if he impresses you would have thought he would be a shoe in for the rest of the season. I know but at least put it on Facebook, twitter etc like other clubs would have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 20 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: It's scandalous that the Championship dropped the process - both reserve positions should be British newcomers in the 2nd tier No non Brit should be allowed near a 2nd tier reserve position Quick history lesson on why that is a bad idea. In 2015 Edinburgh had 2 x 3.00 reserves (minimum average at the time), when you didn't have to have any. They both upped their average to 3.5 approx, then in 2016 a ruling was brought in that each team had to have a 3.00 rider. That meant Edinburgh having to drop one of these improving young riders because they had done too well. So by all means, suggest 2 Brits at reserve, but don't limit it to newcomers, where will they find 18 new riders every season for the reserve berth. One thing they could have done, was to increase the minimum average for foreigners to 4.50 or 5.00 making it much harder for them to drop to reserve, not lowering it to 3.00, which doesn't help Brits at all! Probably should mention King's Lynn now, if Nathan Ablitt had a Champ team I'd give him a go as a RS, but if they can use guests, no harm in picking riders on tracks they'll go better at? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted just now Report Share Posted just now 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Quick history lesson on why that is a bad idea. In 2015 Edinburgh had 2 x 3.00 reserves (minimum average at the time), when you didn't have to have any. They both upped their average to 3.5 approx, then in 2016 a ruling was brought in that each team had to have a 3.00 rider. That meant Edinburgh having to drop one of these improving young riders because they had done too well. So by all means, suggest 2 Brits at reserve, but don't limit it to newcomers, where will they find 18 new riders every season for the reserve berth. One thing they could have done, was to increase the minimum average for foreigners to 4.50 or 5.00 making it much harder for them to drop to reserve, not lowering it to 3.00, which doesn't help Brits at all! Probably should mention King's Lynn now, if Nathan Ablitt had a Champ team I'd give him a go as a RS, but if they can use guests, no harm in picking riders on tracks they'll go better at? So the idea wasn't bad but the execution was....... Of course a blanket reset each year isn't likely to work. As you say tweaks needed in the regs as it develops Also agree the non Brits minimum average should be retained and raised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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