Glasgow 2025

[WookieboyDon]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

Think you will find that Ashton had been on Motorcycles from a young age.

Correct. Had a very promising career in motocross before switching codes. Maybe he'll head back to his spiritual home?

Edited June 17 by WookieboyDon

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

2 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Think you will find that Ashton had been on Motorcycles from a young age.

Let’s revisit what I said:

3 hours ago, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

To find yourself in the main body of a Championship side at 17 years-old, having only taken up the sport three years ago, is remarkable progress.

Let’s see what I was referring to:

You can’t even get being a smartarse right.😂 Thick as sh*t.😂

[Fromafar]

Just now, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

Let’s revisit what I said:

Let’s see what I was referring to:

You can’t even get being a smartarse right.😂 Thick as sh*t.😂

🤡

[TheWellBehavedWorrall]

Just now, Fromafar said:

🤡

What an interaction.😂

Do you mind if I go back to constructively discussing the topic with adults? I’d prefer not to engage in your low IQ nonsense.

[Fromafar]

Just now, TheWellBehavedWorrall said:

What an interaction.😂

Do you mind if I go back to constructively discussing the topic with adults? I’d prefer not to engage in your low IQ nonsense.

🤡🤡

[Trotter65]

I think Boughen’s problems started when Oxford removed him from the rising star and brought Luke Killeen in as rising star..they still kept Boughen but he was in far more difficult heats ..no wonder he struggled

 plus Oxford then rode him at number 3 in the Championship which was an awful position for a rider of his age and experience.

he should have stayed the rising star and rode at 2 in the championship…Oxford did nothing for his confidence

[SharpenRake]

8 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

Glasgows to lose now. 
 

Great signing, magical what you can do to fit UK into your when a few extra pennies are coming your way.

I suppose it means he can now afford to get a ferry to travel to the UK rather than as suggested, by another team 🤴, allegedly, a rowing boat and bus. 

Edited June 17 by SharpenRake

[Tim G]

18 minutes ago, Trotter65 said:

I think Boughen’s problems started when Oxford removed him from the rising star and brought Luke Killeen in as rising star..they still kept Boughen but he was in far more difficult heats ..no wonder he struggled

 plus Oxford then rode him at number 3 in the Championship which was an awful position for a rider of his age and experience.

he should have stayed the rising star and rode at 2 in the championship…Oxford did nothing for his confidence

He was doing fine at number 3 for Oxford and was in great form before his crash in the  championship riders championship, the wheels seem to come off after that.

I think he had a bit off a falling out at the end of the season at Oxford and he did'nt ride the the under 18 championship meeting at Cowley.

Edited June 17 by Tim G

[BackInTheDHSS]

22 minutes ago, Tim G said:

He was doing fine at number 3 for Oxford and was in great form before his crash in the  championship riders championship, the wheels seem to come off after that.

I think he had a bit off a falling out at the end of the season at Oxford and he did'nt ride the the under 18 championship meeting at Cowley.

Well said. What a strange thing to try and blame Oxford. His last four meetings riding at number 3 for Oxford before the crash on 15/9 were as follows…

Away vs Scunthorpe (13/9) - 0,2*,2,0 - 4+1

Away vs Glasgow (8/9) - X,3,3,3,3,1* - 13+1

Away vs Redcar (6/9) - 3,3,3,3,3 - 15

Home vs Redcar (4/9) - 2,2*,3,3 - 10+1

He scored 42+3 from a possible 57 points. 

 

[Gregoryges]

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[TigerIain]

8 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

Great rider who’ll easily score more than his average. Should walk the league now. 
 

Not bitter just very easy to get who you want when you don’t really have a budget. 

If that's true Blobby, that Glasgow have a bottomless well of money that they are throwing at riders, then why did Glasgow not meet Peter Kildemand's financial demands last year and sign Ivacic instead?

And why didn't they then drop Ivacic when it was obvious that he wasn't scoring as expected/ hoped for?

[tyretrax]

12 hours ago, Mr Blobby said:

Glasgows to lose now. 
 

Great signing, magical what you can do to fit UK into your when a few extra pennies are coming your way.

How many pennies did you slip into Palmtree's back pocket?

[JanAndersen]

2 hours ago, TigerIain said:

If that's true Blobby, that Glasgow have a bottomless well of money that they are throwing at riders, then why did Glasgow not meet Peter Kildemand's financial demands last year and sign Ivacic instead?

And why didn't they then drop Ivacic when it was obvious that he wasn't scoring as expected/ hoped for?

So wait are you suggesting Glasgow don’t have financial muscle? I’m not going to criticise Glasgow for paying what they feel is worthwhile for riders to put the best team on track but it’s disingenuous from you to suggest they don’t do that. 

[tyler42]

5 hours ago, Trotter65 said:

I think Boughen’s problems started when Oxford removed him from the rising star and brought Luke Killeen in as rising star..they still kept Boughen but he was in far more difficult heats ..no wonder he struggled

 plus Oxford then rode him at number 3 in the Championship which was an awful position for a rider of his age and experience.

he should have stayed the rising star and rode at 2 in the championship…Oxford did nothing for his confidence

And you could say the same about Killeen, He was looking real good last year, but Oxford have thrown him in the top league and is most weeks getting hammered which in turn affects his second division racing. Not the same rider as last year. 

[stevehone]

seen Nagel abroad a couple of times, could be a shrewd signing

[szkocjasid]

8 hours ago, tyler42 said:

And you could say the same about Killeen, He was looking real good last year, but Oxford have thrown him in the top league and is most weeks getting hammered which in turn affects his second division racing. Not the same rider as last year. 

I wouldn't say Killeen was "thrown in the top league" he was on the RS list & obviously agreed to the position.

I don't understand the reasons why they did that, it weakened their team to secure Killeen for this season (when the rules would've allowed them to pick Jenkins instead).

For Boughen it seems like he's tried to force the first 5 years of his career into half of that time, rather than conquering a level & moving up, he jumps up straight away, wether that's his thinking or advice from others I don't know?

It's hard to believe he's still only 17 as he seems to have done so much.

Boughen only had 1 full season in the NL, then left it behind, he was only a 7.51 rider, so while that's a fantastic first full season, he obviously had room for improvement / more to learn. 

Then after less than 10 Champ fixtures as a 16 year old, signs as a "rising star" for Oxford, doesn't even get a full season before he's moved up to number 6. Was there a need to rush up into the top division, would he have learnt more if he tried to progress more gradually?

Every rider is different, what works for one may not work for another, but when I read a great many people talk about him backing off on tight first bends, it does seem that something went wrong in the route he took up the leagues.

Finally, was Glasgow the best choice for him, they are a team that wants to win & will make changes if it's not happening, so their riders will be under more pressure (same as at Poole) than at other clubs. As much as I criticise Schroeck for his awful tactics, he does tend to give riders more time, rarely strengthens them team (to the detriment of their chances of success) and if you're a struggling second string, you'll still get 4 rides as higher scoring reserves don't get used properly. Sounds like a good team to go to to progress!

 

Edited June 18 by szkocjasid

[Beirao]

25 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

I wouldn't say Killeen was "thrown in the top league" he was on the RS list & obviously agreed to the position.

I don't understand the reasons why they did that, it weakened their team to secure Killeen for this season (when the rules would've allowed them to pick Jenkins instead).

For Boughen it seems like he's tried to force the first 5 years of his career into half of that time, rather than conquering a level & moving up, he jumps up straight away, wether that's his thinking or advice from others I don't know?

It's hard to believe he's still only 17 as he seems to have done so much.

Boughen only had 1 full season in the NL, then left it behind, he was only a 7.51 rider, so while that's a fantastic first full season, he obviously had room for improvement / more to learn. 

Then after less than 10 Champ fixtures as a 16 year old, signs as a "rising star" for Oxford, doesn't even get a full season before he's moved up to number 6. Was there a need to rush up into the top division, would he have learnt more if he tried to progress more gradually?

Every rider is different, what works for one may not work for another, but when I read a great many people talk about him backing off on tight first bends, it does seem that something went wrong in the route he took up the leagues.

Finally, was Glasgow the best choice for him, they are a team that wants to win & will make changes if it's not happening, so their riders will be under more pressure (same as at Poole) than at other clubs. As much as I criticise Schroeck for his awful tactics, he does tend to give riders more time, rarely strengthens them team (to the detriment of their chances of success) and if you're a struggling second string, you'll still get 4 rides as higher scoring reserves don't get used properly. Sounds like a good team to go to to progress!

 

While I don't disagree that riders are under more pressure at Glasgow, his problems stem from his big crash and he would have suffered the same loss of form loss of confidence downward spiral whatever Championship team he signed for. 

[TracksideView]

3 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

I wouldn't say Killeen was "thrown in the top league" he was on the RS list & obviously agreed to the position.

I don't understand the reasons why they did that, it weakened their team to secure Killeen for this season (when the rules would've allowed them to pick Jenkins instead).

For Boughen it seems like he's tried to force the first 5 years of his career into half of that time, rather than conquering a level & moving up, he jumps up straight away, wether that's his thinking or advice from others I don't know?

It's hard to believe he's still only 17 as he seems to have done so much.

Boughen only had 1 full season in the NL, then left it behind, he was only a 7.51 rider, so while that's a fantastic first full season, he obviously had room for improvement / more to learn. 

Then after less than 10 Champ fixtures as a 16 year old, signs as a "rising star" for Oxford, doesn't even get a full season before he's moved up to number 6. Was there a need to rush up into the top division, would he have learnt more if he tried to progress more gradually?

Every rider is different, what works for one may not work for another, but when I read a great many people talk about him backing off on tight first bends, it does seem that something went wrong in the route he took up the leagues.

Finally, was Glasgow the best choice for him, they are a team that wants to win & will make changes if it's not happening, so their riders will be under more pressure (same as at Poole) than at other clubs. As much as I criticise Schroeck for his awful tactics, he does tend to give riders more time, rarely strengthens them team (to the detriment of their chances of success) and if you're a struggling second string, you'll still get 4 rides as higher scoring reserves don't get used properly. Sounds like a good team to go to to progress!

 

Have a look at Ashtons social media posts. How many bike issues & mechanics were blamed for his struggle in form ? You can't sort a problem if the problem is denied ,and are you telling me Oxford would have kept a rider who signed on a 5.07 and was due to drop to 3 in his new average ?

Every man and his dog could see there was serious confidence issues, even when practising with a team mate, the issue was glaringly obvious. 

Everyone wants to see the lad succeed regardless of what team you support as he was a talented British rider but pushing for some sort of success when his mental struggles were starting to not only cost him in results but becomes a danger to other riders there is no other option than for a big time out. Hopefully he will return at some point but not convinced he will.

[WookieboyDon]

27 minutes ago, TracksideView said:

Have a look at Ashtons social media posts. How many bike issues & mechanics were blamed for his struggle in form ? You can't sort a problem if the problem is denied ,and are you telling me Oxford would have kept a rider who signed on a 5.07 and was due to drop to 3 in his new average ?

Every man and his dog could see there was serious confidence issues, even when practising with a team mate, the issue was glaringly obvious. 

Everyone wants to see the lad succeed regardless of what team you support as he was a talented British rider but pushing for some sort of success when his mental struggles were starting to not only cost him in results but becomes a danger to other riders there is no other option than for a big time out. Hopefully he will return at some point but not convinced he will.

Neither am I. As soon as he was backing off going into turn one, lap one, you knew this wasn't bike problems or injury issues. When he is in fresh air he is dynamite. Hopefully we're wrong and we see him come back.

[ragdoll64]

On 6/17/2025 at 12:24 PM, Mr Blobby said:

Great rider who’ll easily score more than his average. Should walk the league now. 
 

Not bitter just very easy to get who you want when you don’t really have a budget. 

Why do you reckon we should walk the league now Blobby?

Ben Barker guested for Boughen against Poole at Ashfield scoring 7+2 and we were beaten by 4. What sort of scores are you expecting from Nagel who, remember, will be new to British tracks?