Arthur54 Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:10 PM Ben Barker it is then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted Tuesday at 05:22 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:22 PM Thoughts with the Birmingham fans at this difficult time. Maybe he was signed as he still has his Brummies kevlars in the workshop, whether he can still fit in them is another matter. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted Tuesday at 05:27 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:27 PM Don't blame Tolley for cutting costs with the amount of money he's put in. Season's over for Birmingham anyway and the fans wouldn't even turn up even if they got an Ekstraliga rider in imo. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Tuesday at 05:45 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:45 PM 10 minutes ago, TTT said: Don't blame Tolley for cutting costs with the amount of money he's put in. Season's over for Birmingham anyway and the fans wouldn't even turn up even if they got an Ekstraliga rider in imo. .And require about an extra £5k to £6k outlay to pay for the home and away matches. Even for an "average" Polish top tier rider... Who would put hardly one extra person through the turnstile... That is the reality, hence no point in chucking good money after bad.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted Tuesday at 05:49 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:49 PM 1 minute ago, mikebv said: .And require about an extra £5k to £6k outlay to pay for the home and away matches. Even for an "average" Polish top tier rider... Who would put hardly one extra person through the turnstile... That is the reality, hence no point in chucking good money after bad.. I suppose the other side to that is how many fewer will turn up to watch and how much revenue is lost as a result. I guess Nigel Tolley has done the calculations 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Tuesday at 05:53 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:53 PM Just now, Sir Sidney said: I suppose the other side to that is how many fewer will turn up to watch and how much revenue is lost as a result. I guess Nigel Tolley has done the calculations Those who still attend are pretty much "lifers" and will mainly turn up every meeting... And, with the end of the Brummies, maybe a few more of those who have drifted away from the early Tony Mole days will attend...? Plus, a few more away fans on a "last chance to see" mission could add a few dozen to the total.. I think he has probably spent enough over the years, so fair play to him for not spending more... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Sidney Posted Tuesday at 05:56 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:56 PM 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: Those who still attend are pretty much "lifers" and will mainly turn up every meeting... And, with the end of the Brummies, maybe a few more of those who have drifted away from the early Tony Mole days will attend...? Plus, a few more away fans on a "last chance to see" mission could add a few dozen to the total.. I think he has probably spent enough over the years, so fair play to him for not spending more... I'm one of the ones who goes, so I hope you are right and crowd levels don't drop any further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:15 PM 17 minutes ago, Sir Sidney said: I'm one of the ones who goes, so I hope you are right and crowd levels don't drop any further. When the announcer starts reading out the crowd names and changes to the riders, you know it’s as low as it can get! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM Honestly just shut the doors, they’d be better off than embarrassing themselves till the end of the year. Team wouldn’t even win the championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:39 PM 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Plus, a few more away fans on a "last chance to see" mission could add a few dozen to the total.. "Easy 2 points" mission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted Tuesday at 08:43 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:43 PM Should never of been in the top tier in the first place. awful crowds and not helped by the muppets who run the sport in the UK by pretty much forcing them up. there is certainly no danger of ending the season on a high with these type of signings. the club is run as an absolute joke. Why did everyone know MJJ was only riding till May before the season started yet the club said idiot all about it, just like they did a while ago with the Adam Ellis signing. ever since Birmingham have came back around 2007 they have proved the crowds just arent there. They are national league standard. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:50 PM 4 minutes ago, Pinny said: Should never of been in the top tier in the first place. awful crowds and not helped by the muppets who run the sport in the UK by pretty much forcing them up. there is certainly no danger of ending the season on a high with these type of signings. the club is run as an absolute joke. Why did everyone know MJJ was only riding till May before the season started yet the club said idiot all about it, just like they did a while ago with the Adam Ellis signing. ever since Birmingham have came back around 2007 they have proved the crowds just arent there. They are national league standard. You said in an earlier post , something like, "you don't know who i am, do you" Please enlighten us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted Tuesday at 08:52 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:52 PM Barker signing is just like the Brummies have been for last two years "a token gesture" Feel sorry for the fans - the team looks a competitive Championship team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted Tuesday at 08:56 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 08:56 PM Should never of been in the top tier in the first place. awful crowds and not helped by the muppets who run the sport in the UK by pretty much forcing them up. there is certainly no danger of ending the season on a high with these type of signings. the club is run as an absolute joke. Why did everyone know MJJ was only riding till May before the season started yet the club said idiot all about it, just like they did a while ago with the Adam Ellis signing. ever since Birmingham have came back around 2007 they have proved the crowds just arent there. They are national league standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted Tuesday at 09:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:12 PM (edited) Its sad to see another club disappear and fair play to Tolley for giving it a go and putting his money in but crowd levels have shown there is no appetite for speedway in Birmingham, crazy to think how many clubs have been lost just in London and the West Midlands alone. Edited Tuesday at 09:13 PM by bellevueace spelling mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Tuesday at 09:19 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:19 PM 3 minutes ago, bellevueace said: Its sad to see another club disappear and fair play to Tolley for giving it a go and putting his money in but crowd levels have shown there is no appetite for speedway in Birmingham, crazy to think how many clubs have been lost just in London and the West Midlands alone. With the same old, same old, operating model being used.. I suppose if it was good enough for the 70's it is good enough for now, over fifty years later... An amazing concept.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted Tuesday at 09:22 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:22 PM Just now, mikebv said: With the same old, same old, operating model being used.. I suppose if it was good enough for the 70's it is good enough for now, over fifty years later... An amazing concept.... During the boom years of the seventies no investment into the sport was made and so began the slow downward spiral that has led to the current situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted Tuesday at 09:23 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:23 PM Can’t see the Brummies winning another match but at least they have 7 riders. Just not Premiership level with that line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Tuesday at 09:26 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:26 PM 1 minute ago, bellevueace said: During the boom years of the seventies no investment into the sport was made and so began the slow downward spiral that has led to the current situation. And the Sky money was over a million a year... For, was it 20 years? Some top names got to retire from the UK off the back off that... Before earning shed loads more in Poland... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted Wednesday at 05:14 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:14 AM 7 hours ago, mikebv said: And the Sky money was over a million a year... For, was it 20 years? Some top names got to retire from the UK off the back off that... Before earning shed loads more in Poland... Even that money was mismanaged, it was alleged (that as a thank you) the guy ( Russell) who arranged the Sky deal allegedly pocketed a large chunk of it every year whilst grass roots got bugger all. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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