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47 minutes ago, IainB said:

I don't think the Lukes are as bad riders as there scores suggest, Jake Mulford was also hopelessly outclassed in the SGP2 this season, they're all riding 500cc Speedway machines, and Mulford is a World Champion in another discipline, so the only conclusion I can come to is it's all about "setup" a word we seem to hear more than any other in modern day Speedway... maybe instead of the army of hangers on in the Team GB setup they should have a "setup" expert

It’s actually quite ridiculous the amount of members team GB have compared to the other nations. All for wanting to look professional but they take it to another level.

 

You get a lot of the “oh look at us we’re team GB” vibe from it, more than one team staying in the same hotel as them yet they’re the only ones with the daft posters at the door saying official hotel of Team GB. It’s just daft. 

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2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

When the riders came out for their victory lap before going on podium why did they have helmets on and why did they all take their fork covers off ?

Had to have helmets on for doing wheelies etc, all the bikes they rode in the meeting would’ve been in the fenced off area where they need to stay for 30 minutes after their last race so probably on the spares. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

It’s actually quite ridiculous the amount of members team GB have compared to the other nations. All for wanting to look professional but they take it to another level.

 

You get a lot of the “oh look at us we’re team GB” vibe from it, more than one team staying in the same hotel as them yet they’re the only ones with the daft posters at the door saying official hotel of Team GB. It’s just daft. 

I do like the visual professionalism that GB projects but is it producing the results ? Outside lambert and bewley where are we ?

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55 minutes ago, IainB said:

I don't think the Lukes are as bad riders as there scores suggest, Jake Mulford was also hopelessly outclassed in the SGP2 this season, they're all riding 500cc Speedway machines, and Mulford is a World Champion in another discipline, so the only conclusion I can come to is it's all about "setup" a word we seem to hear more than any other in modern day Speedway... maybe instead of the army of hangers on in the Team GB setup they should have a "setup" expert

I think its a matter of a lack of experience abroad for the two Lukes, in terms of how to ride those tracks and set the bike up for them. They will both have learned a shed load from the meeting but I think the Team GB set up needs to get our 15 & 16 year olds riding in Poland and other countries on 500cc machines more regularly if we want to be competitive in these types of meetings. You could see from the way they were riding that Bednar, the Danes, the Aussies etx are all completely at home on a track like Torun and that only comes from experience, and probably loads of training time. 

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2 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

I do like the visual professionalism that GB projects but is it producing the results ? Outside lambert and bewley where are we ?

Far too many hangers on in that set up who add nothing to actually improving us on track, they get an all expenses paid for trip out of it though. Vatcher being one of them, doesn’t add anything, prances around sprouting crap, offers nothing. Along with all the others with nonsense job titles, jobs for the mates stuff.

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Just now, Mr Blobby said:

Far too many hangers on in that set up who add nothing to actually improving us on track, they get an all expenses paid for trip out of it though. Vatcher being one of them, doesn’t add anything, prances around sprouting crap, offers nothing. Along with all the others with nonsense job titles, jobs for the mates stuff.

I do agree about the hangers on but that’s widespread in speedway in general, I’ve been pointing out some of speedways greatest freeloaders for years and they don’t like it either when you point them out

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9 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said:

I do agree about the hangers on but that’s widespread in speedway in general, I’ve been pointing out some of speedways greatest freeloaders for years and they don’t like it either when you point them out

Yeah they take great offence to it. 

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21 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

It’s actually quite ridiculous the amount of members team GB have compared to the other nations. All for wanting to look professional but they take it to another level.

 

You get a lot of the “oh look at us we’re team GB” vibe from it, more than one team staying in the same hotel as them yet they’re the only ones with the daft posters at the door saying official hotel of Team GB. It’s just daft. 

The poster is for the “hangers on “ to find their way home from the nightclubs.

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3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Pawekczak looks the real deal at16 .Very controlled and stylish.Did they say he was only 16 -2 weeks ago.?

There is least 1/2 doz exciting Poles though.

Born 21.09.09

Made his debut for Bydgoszcz last week beating Lebedevs and Vaculik in his paid 11.

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10 minutes ago, arnieg said:

Born 21.09.09

Made his debut for Bydgoszcz last week beating Lebedevs and Vaculik in his paid 11.

I would go as far as saying he single handedly kept Bydgoszcz in with a fighting chance! I’m in Gorzow now staying with the family and going to the Sunday match so it will be interesting to see him live!

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