Technik Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 I wonder what the riders get paid for the superheat. The points are 4,3,2,0 instead of 3,2,1,0. The points don't count in the overall score. The points are not included in the riders averages. There is no bonus point available. I remember the golden double tactical ride in black & white from a 15M handicap in gate 4. I know some star riders refused to take the ride as it was not to their advantage as should they win it added 6 to the team total but they would only be paid for 3. with added risks of having to pass each rider & excessive wear & tear to machinary they felt a bit put out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted Wednesday at 06:30 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:30 PM (edited) Thought of another flaw with the superheat scoring. Team A vs Team B has 2 draws. Team A at home wins the superheat 7-2. Team B at home (in the second leg) wins the superheat 5-4. So team B gets the bonus point despite scoring less in their superheat win. Edited Wednesday at 06:31 PM by szkocjasid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted Wednesday at 07:39 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:39 PM On 8/7/2025 at 7:25 AM, cowboy cookie returns? said: I’ve given the speedway authorities plenty of stick over the years. Plenty of daft regulations golden doubles aka the twit hat, green helmet colours the home team riding with numbers 8-13 then some that are still with us out of control doubling up, guest feats the list goes on. However the super heat does add something, some drama & atmosphere. It’s the one change over the last 30 years that actually adds something positive. But ... why only for a draw? What's wrong with 46-44, 47-43 or 43-47, 44-46 - the losing team has the opportunity to pull back some points in a thrilling end to the meeting. What if some teams never see a drawn match, and others have two, three or four? What's so special? Indeed, if the BSPL likes to have an extra heat, why not have an extra heat anyway?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted Wednesday at 08:13 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:13 PM Each match has two points riding on it... Apart from a superheat match... Where there is three... And is it four points available if the 2nd leg ends in a draw as well as the first leg?. ie A superheat for the draw on the night, and a super heat for the aggregate... I have no idea, and cannot be arsed checking, but that would mean two matches scoring seven points, and not five... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStarsFan91 Posted Wednesday at 08:31 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:31 PM (edited) The super heat and aggregate bonus point should be removed in my opinion… a draw should be a draw, 1 point each 👍🏻 match win - 2 points match draw - 1 point each team match loss - 0 points Simple but effective and much easier to understand 😂 Edited Wednesday at 08:34 PM by SuperStarsFan91 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted Wednesday at 11:23 PM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:23 PM 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Each match has two points riding on it... Apart from a superheat match... Where there is three... And is it four points available if the 2nd leg ends in a draw as well as the first leg?. ie A superheat for the draw on the night, and a super heat for the aggregate... I have no idea, and cannot be arsed checking, but that would mean two matches scoring seven points, and not five... That's exactly what I was pointing out..... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted yesterday at 08:19 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:19 AM 8 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: That's exactly what I was pointing out..... Being top of the table and never winning a meeting... The point gained for being within six, for the away team, was dropped, it was said, due to the home teams fans leaving the stadium feeling less than positive that "one point was dropped".... And home victories are, as we know, the main objective to keep a crowd level... Now they can leave feeling that they have lost, after they didn't!!! Typical UK Speedway though... Let's contrive something... Something that didn't need actually fixing too... Maybe spending more time in delivering a fit for purpose operating model, and a joined up, collective, national wide, and innovative, marketing plan would be more beneficial to UK Speedway? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted yesterday at 08:27 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:27 AM It’s a gimmick made for TV which is what speedway became many years ago. It might add something for the neutral but what about those at the track? You see your team battle to a draw or salvage a point only to then walk away feeling like you lost. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted yesterday at 12:23 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:23 PM I quite liked what they tried a few seasons ago, but simpler 3 points for a win 2 points for a draw 1 point for losing by 6 of less Same for home and away teams. No bonus points (always helps tracks with bigger home advantage) and no super heats.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago All this talk of points being available to some teams and not others reminds me of the double point joker used in the 2006 final. Peterborough were successful in gaining 61% of their total points whilst Reading gained 63%. Peterborough won! It was then I realise speedway was more in line with WWE than a proper sport and entertainment was the holy grail and not providing a true sporting contest. Whilst the sport is definitely still the latter, maintaining the former has proved elusive for the UK’s top league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 20 hours ago, ouch said: All this talk of points being available to some teams and not others reminds me of the double point joker used in the 2006 final. Peterborough were successful in gaining 61% of their total points whilst Reading gained 63%. Peterborough won! It was then I realise speedway was more in line with WWE than a proper sport and entertainment was the holy grail and not providing a true sporting contest. Whilst the sport is definitely still the latter, maintaining the former has proved elusive for the UK’s top league. The thing is pro wrestling is scripted to provide a fixed outcome, speedway is fixed to try and provide a scripted outcome. A close match resulting in a draw is more entertaining than a one sided match (for the neutral) so why gimmick it up further, making one sided matches look even more inferior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.